Noj Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) Recommended? I can get it for $10, I'm wondering if it is worth it. Edited November 28, 2004 by Noj Quote
DrJ Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) Hi Noj - one minor correction, that's stuff from Blue Note and Capitol, no Pacific Jazz stuff for those guys. Regardless - GET IT, GET IT, GET IT! Full of truly top drawer bop, stuff that should be in EVERYONE'S collection in one form or another. $10 is a great price too. Sound on this set is perfectly acceptable, if not quite up to the Japanese RVGs of the FABULOUS FATS NAVARRO albums. Edited November 28, 2004 by DrJ Quote
Noj Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) Oops, typo. Thanks for the recommendation and correction, Tony. Fixed! Edited November 28, 2004 by Noj Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 What DrJ said but from the thread title, I smell an Andoran reissue. Is this the case? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 Shit happened before I posted - nevermind. Quote
Noj Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Posted November 28, 2004 I'm ordering from the Jazz Heritage club. They don't have RVGs, but that's ok by me. Quote
Spontooneous Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 Worth $10 for "Lady Bird" alone. Warning: May cause obsession with Dameron's writing. At least that's how it worked for me. And I'm glad it did. Quote
Noj Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Posted November 28, 2004 I've added it to the order. Thanks guys! I ordered it with a side of: Freddie Roach - Good Move! Kenny Dorham - Afro-Cuban Ben Webster - Soulville Also pondering... Count Basie Swings, Joe Williams Sings The Greatest!! Count Basie Plays, Joe Williams Sings Standards Quote
Big Wheel Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 You have to get the first Basie/Williams album. Simply gorgeous. Quote
MartyJazz Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 Worth $10 for "Lady Bird" alone. For me, one of the great highlights of this set of which there are many is the trumpet "battle" between Fats and Howard McGhee on "Double Talk". Great, great playing. I echo what others have said, get it! Quote
mikeweil Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 If it's the Blue Note - good set in good sound. No need for Andoran issues here. Quote
sidewinder Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 A great set - some excellent Dameron sides, wonderful Wardell Gray, Howard McGhee. Can't go wrong with this one. This was one of a group of fine doubletime sets which included the Ken McIntyre 'Complete UA Sessions' and the Kenton 'Innovations Orchestra' set. Almost like mini-Mosaic Selects, with excellent liner notes. Quote
pryan Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 I don't have the Fats/Tadd set yet, and don't know why I've passed it up so many times before. Quote
Big Al Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 Yes, what they all said before: GET IT!!!! My favorites are the two takes of "Double Talk" but it's all wonderful! Quote
Brad Posted November 28, 2004 Report Posted November 28, 2004 I really can't add more than what's been said already but with Tadd -- and Fats -- how can you go wrong? Quote
Noj Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Posted December 22, 2004 I'm giving Disc 1 its inaugural spin right now. B-) Quote
king ubu Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 The Blue Note release is fantastic! I love it! Dameron's writing is so beautiful, I like that, I think, even better than Navarro's playing. Don't miss this Milestone disc: It collects most (I think) of the existing air-shots of Dameron bands with Fats. There's more around on cheapo LPs (I have three of them), but mostly those have tracks with the Winding-Eager or the Winding-Powell-Eager frontline, and no Fats (which is fine with me). ubu Quote
Noj Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Posted December 22, 2004 Thanks for the recommendation, Ubu. Quote
king ubu Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 welcome - hope you find it for a decent prize, it's quite an expansive disc. Quote
Bluesnik Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 I'll endorse all those reccmendations. This is a great set with outstanding music. If you want bop in it's purest form you needn't look further. I love it. And the sound is good too. And if you develop a taste for Fats Navarro there's another set that might quell your thirst. It's The Fats Navarro Story on Proper. Not the older release which was divided into volumnes, but the full 4CD set. I think it's from 2000. Haven't heard it but I have been told the selecction is very good (mostly culled from his SAvoy releases) and so is the sound. Considering its price tag I might go for it myself one of these days. Quote
king ubu Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 ... The Fats Navarro Story on Proper ... Disc One - The Bebop Boys Billy Eckstine and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, Shorty McConnell, Gale Brockman, Boonie Hazel, tp; Gerald Valentine, Taswell Baird, Howard Scott, Chips Outcalt, tb; John Jackson, Bill Frazier, as; Budd Johnson, Gene Ammons, ts; Leo Parker, bs; John Malachi, p; Connie Wainwright, g; Tommy Potter, b; Art Blakey, d; Sarah Vaughan, voc. Broadcast. "Club Plantation", Los Angeles, February/March 1945. AIR MAIL SPECIAL (Arr: Tadd Dameron) Spotlite LP 100 DON'T BLAME ME (Arr. Tadd Dameron) Spotlite LP 100 OPUS X (Arr: John Malachi) Spotlite LP 100 LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME (Arr: Gerald Valentine) Spotlite LP 100 Billy Eckstine and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, Shorty McConnell, Boonie Hazel, Raymond Orr, tp; Gerald Valentine, Howard Scott, Walter Knox, Chips Outcalt, tb; John Cobbs, Budd Johnson, as; Gene Ammons, Arthur Simmons, ts; Teddy Cypron, bs; Richard Ellington, p; Connie Wainwright, g; Tommy Potter, b; Art Blakey, d; Billy Eckstine, voc. New York, October, 1945. NSC 72 LONG, LONG JOURNEY Regent MG 6058 Billy Eckstine and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, Shorty McConnell, Raymond Orr, Boonie Hazel, tp; Gerald Valentine, Howard Scott, Chips Outcalt, tb; Norris Turney, Junior Williams, as; Josh Jackson, Gene Ammons, ts; Leo Parker, bs; Jimmy Golden, p; Connie Wainwright, g; Bill McMahon, b; Art Blakey, d; Billy Eckstine, voc. New York, February/March 1946. NSC 115 SECOND BALCONY JUMP (Arr. Gerald Valentine) National 9018 NSC 117 TELL ME PRETTY BABY Regent MG 6053 NSC 123 WITHOUT A SONG National 9061 Kenny Clarke and his 52nd Street Boys : Fats Navarro, Kenny Dorham, tp; Sonny Stitt, as; Ray Abrams, ts; Eddie De Verteuil, bs; Bud Powell, p; John Collins, g; Al Hall, b; Kenny Clarke, d; Walter Fuller, arr. New York, September 5, 1946. D6 VB 2792-1 EPISTROPHY Swing 224 D6 VB 2793-1 52ND STREET THEME Swing 244 D6 VB 2794-1 OO-BOP SH'BAM Swing 225 D6 VB 2795-1 RUE CHAPTAL Swing 244 The Be-Bop Boys : Kenny Dorham, Fats Navarro, tp; Sonny Stitt, as; Morris Lane, ts; Eddie De Verteuil, bs; Bud Powell, p; Al Hall, b; Kenny Clarke, d. New York, September 6, 1946. S 3346/47 BOPPIN' A RIFF Savoy 558 S 3348/49 FAT BOY Savoy 587 S 3350/51 EVERYTHING'S COOL Savoy 586 S 3352.53 WEBB CITY Savoy 585 Fats Navarro, tp; Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis, ts; Al Haig, p; Huey Long, g; Gene Ramey, b; Denzil Best, d. New York, December 18, 1946. CALLING DR. JAZZ FRACTURE MATERNITY STEALIN' TRASH Coleman Hawkins and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, tp; J.J. Johnson, tb; Porter Kilbert, as; Coleman Hawkins, ts; Milt Jackson, vib; Hank Jones, p; Curley Russell, b; Max Roach, d. SR 1857 I MEAN YOU Sonora 3027 SR 1858-2 BEAN AND THE BOYS Sonora 3024\ Disc Two - Nostalgia Same personnel as December 18, 1946 session. New York, December 20, 1946. JUST A MYSTERY RED PEPPER SPINAL HOLLERIN' AND SCREAMIN' Fats Navarro and his Thin Men : Fats Navarro, tp; Leo Parker, as, bs; Tadd Dameron, p; Gene Ramey, b; Denzil Best, d. New York, January 29, 1947. S 3383-2 FAT GIRL Savoy MG 9005 S 3384-2 ICE FREEZES RED Savoy MG 9005 S 3385 EB POB Savoy MG 9005 S 3386 GOIN' TO MINTON'S Savoy MG 9005 Illinois Jacquet and his Orchestra : "Slim Romero" (Fats Navarro), Joe Newman, Miles Davis, Marion Hazel, ts; Gus Chappell, Ted Kelly, Eli Robinson, Dickie Wells, tb; Ray Perry, Jimmy Powell, as; Illinois Jacquet, George Nicholas, ts; Leo Parker, bs; Bill Doggett, p; Al Lucas, b; Shadow Wilson, d. New York, January 7, 1947. 97-2 JIVIN' WITH JACK THE BELL BOY Aladdin 179 WNEW Saturday Nigh Swing Session : Fats Navarro, tp; Bill Harris, tb; Allen Eager, Charlie Ventura, ts; Ralph Burns, p; Al Valenti, g; Chubby Jackson, b; Buddy Rich, d. WNEW Broadcast, New York, April 12, 1947. WS5006/7/8 SWEET GEORGIA BROWN Counterpoint CPT 549 WS5009/10/11 HIGH ON AN OPEN MIKE Counterpoint CPT 549 The Tadd Dameron Sextet : Fats Navarro, tp; Ernie Henry, as; Charlie Rouse, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Nelson Boyd, b; Shadow Wilson, d. New York, September 26, 1947. 304-2 THE CHASE Blue Note 541 305-1 THE SQUIRREL Blue Note 540 306-5 OUR DELIGHT Blue Note 540 307-1 DAMERONIA Blue Note BLP 1531 Fats Navarro, tp; Ernie Henry, as; Tadd Dameron, p; Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d; Kay Penton, voc (-1). New York, October 28, 1947. S 3465-1 A BEBOP CAROL Savoy 931 S 3466-1 THE TADD WALK Savoy 931 S 3467-3 GONE WITH THE WIND (-) Savoy MG 9023 S 3468-3 THAT SOMEONE MUST BE YOU (-1) Savoy MG 9024 Fats Navarro, tp; Charlie Rouse, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Nelson Boyd, b; Art Blakey, d. New York, December 5, 1947. S 3483-6 NOSTALGIA Savoy MG 9019 S 3484-6 BARRY'S BOP Savoy MG 12133 S 3485-6 BEBOP ROMP Savoy MG 12133 S 3486 FATS BLOWS Savoy MG 12133 Disc Three - At The Royal Roost Coleman Hawkins and his All-Stars : Fats Navarro, tp; J.J. Johnson, tb; Budd Johnson, as; Coleman Hawkins, ts; Marion De Veta, bs; Hank Jones, p; Chuck Wayne, g; Jack Lesberg, b; Max Roach, d. New York, December 11, 1947. DYVB 2661 HALF STEP DOWN PLEASE Victor 20 - 3143 D7VB 2663 JUMPIN' JANE Victor 20 - 3143 Dexter Gordon and his Boys : Fats Navarro, tp; Dexter Gordon, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Nelson Boyd, b; Art Mardigan, d. New York, December 22, 1947. S 3512 DEXTROSE Savoy 955 S 3513 INDEX Savoy SJL 2211 S 3514 DEXTIVITY Savoy SJL 2211 Tadd Dameron and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, tp; Rudy Williams, as; Allen Eager, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d. Broadcast "Royal Roost" New York, August 28, 1948. GOOD BAIT (NO. 1) Jazzland LP 50 GOOD BAIT (NO. 2) Jazzland LP 50 ANTHROPOLOGY Jazzland LP 50 LADY BE GOOD Jazzland LP 50 Tadd Dameron and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, tp; Rudy Williams, as; Allen Eager, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Milt Jackson, vib (-1); Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d. Broadcast "Royal Roost" New York, September 4, 1948. SYMPHONETTE (-1) Jazzland LP 68 THE TADD WALK Jazzland LP 68 THE SQUIRREL Jazzland LP 68 Tadd Dameron and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, tp; Rudy Williams, as; Allen Eager, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d. Broadcast "Royal Roost" New York, October 9, 1948. DAMERONIA Jazzland LP 50 OUR DELIGHT Jazzland LP 50 EB POB Jazzland LP 68 The Tadd Dameron Sextet : Fats Navarro, tp; Allen Eager, Wardell Gray, ts; Tadd Dameron, p; Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d; Chano Pozo, bgo (-1) Kenny Hagood, voc (-2). New York, September 13, 1948. BN 332-1 JAHBERO (-1) Blue Note 559 BN 333-1 LADY BIRD Blue Note 559 BN 334-2 SYMPHONETTE Blue Note BLP 1532 BN 335-1 I THINK I'LL GO AWAY (-2) Benny Goodman Septet : Fats Navarro, tp; Benny Goodman, cl; Wardell Gray, ts; Gene Di Novi, p; Mundell Lowe, g; Clyde Lombardi, b; Mel Zelnick, d. Los Angeles, September 9, 1948. 2974-3 STEALIN' APPLES Capitol 10173 Disc Four - Double Talk Howard McGhee, tp; p (-1); Fats Navarro, tp; Ernie Henry, as; Milt Jackson, p; vib (-1); Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d. New York, October 11, 1948. BN 336-1 THE SKUNK Blue Note BLP 1532 BN 337-1 BOPERATION (-1) Blue Note BLP 1532 BN 338-B DOUBLE TALK Blue Note BLP 5004 Earl Coleman and his All-Stars. Fats Navarro, tp; Don Lanphere, ts; Linton Garner, p, celeste; Al Casey, g; Jimmy Johnson, b; Max Roach, d; Earl Coleman, voc. New York, November 29, 1948. D 1162-A GUILTY Dial 756 D 1163-C YARDBIRD SUITE Dial 756 D 1164-C A STRANGER IN TOWN Dial 753 D 1165-A AS TIME GOES BY Dial LP 212 Same personnel and date as above, but Earl Coleman and Al Casey out. D 1166-A MOVE Dial LP 212 D 116-B MOVE Dial LP 1033 The Metronome All Stars : Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, Fats Navarro, tp; J.J. Johnson, Kai Winding, tb; Buddy De Franco, cl; Charlie Parker, as; Charlie Ventura, ts; Ernie Caceres, bs; Lennie Tristano, p; Billy Bauer, g; Eddie Safranski, b; Shelly Manne, d; Pete Rugolo, arr. cond. New York, January 3, 1949. D9-VB 0021 OVERTIME Victor 20-3361 Tadd Dameron and his Orchestra : Fats Navarro, tp; Kai Winding, tb; Sahib Shibab, as; Dexter Gordon, ts; Cecil Payne, bs; Tadd Dameron, p; Curley Russell, b; Kenny Clarke, d; Diego Ibarra, bgo; Vidal Bolado, cga; Rae Pearl, voc (-). New York, January 18, 1949. 3391-3E SID'S DELIGHT Capitol 57-60006 3392-3E CASBAH (-1) Capitol 57-60006 Bud Powell's Modernists : Fats Navarro, tp; Sonny Rollins, ts; Bud Powell, p; Tommy Potters, b; Roy Haynes, d. New York, August 8, 1949. BN 360-2 BOUNCING WITH BUD Blue Note BLP 1503 BN 361-3 WAIL Blue Note BLP 1503 BN 362-2 DANCE OF THE INFIDELS Blue Note BLP 1503 BN 363-1 52ND STREET THEME Blue Note BLP 1503 Don Lanphere Quintet : Fats Navarro, tp; Don Lanphere, ts; Al Haig, p; Tommy Potter, b; Max Roach, d. New York, September 20, 1949. JRC 35-D WAILING WALL Prestige PR 819 JRC 36-BC GO Prestige PR 812 JRC 37-B INFATUATION Prestige PR 819 JRC 38-B STOP Prestige PR 812 Charlie Parker Quintet : Fats Navarro, tp; Charlie Parker, as; Bud Powell, p; Curley Russell, b; Art Blakey, d. Broadcast "Birdland", New York, June 30, 1950. NIGHT IN TUNISIA Grotto 495 DIZZY ATMOSPHERE Ozone 4 Definitely lots of beautiful music here! The Jazzland stuff is (partially?) on the disc in my last post, some (all?) of the BN is there, as are some Savoy takes and some non-Jazzland live recordings. I suppose the date for the last two tracks is inaccurate, though. This is discussed in the 4CD set Charlie Parker at Birdland Vol. 1 (Ember/TKO). ubu Quote
king ubu Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 Here's what's on the Jazzland/Fantasy CD: FATS NAVARRO FEATURED with THE TADD DAMERON BAND Milestone MCD-47041-2 ~ $16.98 Our Delight Eb-Pob Tadd Walk The Squirrel Dameronia Good Bait (No. 1) Good Bait (No. 2) Symphonette Lady Be Good Anthropology (No. 1) Anthropology (No. 2) Wahoo Tiny's Blues Fats Navarro - t Kai Winding - tb Rudy Williams - as Allan Eager - ts Tadd Dameron - p Milt Jackson - vib (guesting on one cut only) Curly Russell - b Kenny Clarke - d Recorded summer and fall 1948. These are air shots of Dameron's band, this was released as a Navarro disc most probably because he's got the bigger name... ubu Quote
king ubu Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 And here's the Savoy disc: 1. Boppin' A Riff Sonny Stitt 5:32 2. Fat Boy Theodore Navarro 5:43 3. Everything's Cool Navarro, Walter Gil Fuller 5:51 4. Webb City Bud Powell, Fuller 5:37 5. Calling Dr. Jazz Eddie Davis 2:47 6. Fracture Eddie Davis 2:50 7. Hollerin' and Screamin' Eddie Davis 2:39 8. Stealing Trash Eddie Davis 2:46 9. Just A Mystery Eddie Davis 2:13 10. Red Pepper Eddie Davis 3:03 11. Spinal Eddie Davis 2:30 12. Maternity Eddie Davis 3:01 13. Fat Girl Navarro 2:19 14. Ice Freezes Red Navarro, Tadd Dameron 2:38 15. Eb Pob Navarro, Leo Parker 2:22 16. Goin' To Minton's Navarro 2:49 17. A Be Bop Carroll Dameron 2:57 18. The Tadd Walk Dameron 2:50 19. Nostalgia Navarro 2:41 20. Barry's Bop Navarro 2:37 21. Be Bop Romp Navarro 2:35 22. Fats Blows Navarro 2:48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Artist info- Fats Navarro, trumpet All Sonny Stitt, alto saxophone 1-4 Morris Lane, tenor saxophone 1-4 Ed De Verteuil, baritone saxophone 1-4 Bud Powell, piano 1-4 Al Hall, bass 1-4 Kenny Clarke, drums 1-4 Eddie Davis, tenor saxophone 5-12 Al Haig, piano 5-12 Huey Long, guitar 5-12 Gene Ramey, bass 5-12 Denzil Best, drums 5-12 Leo Parker, alto and baritone saxes 13-16 Tadd Dameron, piano 13-16 Ernest Henry, alto saxophone 17,18 Curly Russell, bass 17,18 Charlie Rouse, tenor saxophone 19-22 Nelson Boyd, bass 19-22 Art Blakey, drums 19-22 Kenny Dorham, trumpet 1-4 Tadd Dameron, piano 17,18 This is not a complete release of Navarro's Savoy appearances. Also he is on a Dexter Gordon date that can be found on the Dexter CD "Settin' the Pace" (which again is not containing everything Gordon did for Savoy...) ubu Quote
Noj Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Posted January 17, 2005 Thanks for the recommendations, King Ubu and Bluesnik. I have been enjoying the two cd set enormously, I think I'll spin it this morning! Quote
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