Why is Lee Morgan's "Vol. 3"

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

Since every number on the cd was written by Golson, how is it that this wound up being a Morgan session? Golson had already led a BN session ('Philadelphians') by this time hadn't he? Even though I'm quite fond of "Mesabi Chant" and "Tip-Toeing" it's one of those cds that just doesn't get pulled from the stax all that often...and I never see much chatter about it either --- is it viewed as sub-standard or so? Hard to believe.

[Big Wheel]

Golson and the Philadelphians was a United Artists session. Patrick Roques did a very nice job of approximating a Reid Miles cover for that one, though.

[SEK]

Since every number on the cd was written by Golson, how is it that this wound up being a Morgan session?

I think that some of these things can be somewhat arbitrary. Whether under Morgan's or Golson's name, the music on "Lee Morgan Vol. 3" would be among my favorite programs from the '50s. "Hasaan's Dream" and "I Remember Clifford" are especially memorable.

[Rooster_Ties]

Patrick Roques did a very nice job of approximating a Reid Miles cover for that one, though.

Had to look this one up - as it was a cover I had never seen before. Here 't is...

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

Thanks for setting me straight on that Wheel....didn't know that. Wonder why this didn't end up as a UA session?

[Dan Gould]

Thanks for setting me straight on that Wheel....didn't know that. Wonder why this didn't end up as a UA session?

Uh .... because it was organized by Alfred Lion whose company had no relationship to United Artists at the time?

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

Uh...you're right......I need more coffee.

(I was just thinkin' that with all of these great tunes...it shoulda been a UA organized session with Morgan playing the sideman).

Edited May 31, 2003 by Son-of-a-Weizen

[Rooster_Ties]

Patrick Roques did a very nice job of approximating a Reid Miles cover for that one, though.

Had to look this one up - as it was a cover I had never seen before. Here 't is...

Just picked up a used copy of this CD today. Haven't listened to quite all of it yet, but what I've heard -- I like!!

EDIT: Listened to the whole thing in the car, while driving around town to various appointments. Great disc. Always good to have some more Lee that I didn't have previously.

Edited August 25, 2004 by Rooster_Ties

[blue-note-ojc]

You are so right, Rooster Ties, about it always being so good to have more Lee Morgan. I have between 85 and 90 CDs with Lee as leader or sideman and it isn't enough. The ones I know of that I do not have are either larger groups than I normally like, or that I think are too free for my taste. One with a large group I do have, of course, is with Gillespie at Newport. Never too much Lee Morgan!

Tom

[Jim R]

There were a couple of different covers for the UA LP's. I had one that looked pretty much like this, as I recall:

[Morganized]

You are so right, Rooster Ties, about it always being so good to have more Lee Morgan. I have between 85 and 90 CDs with Lee as leader or sideman and it isn't enough. ...................Never too much Lee Morgan!

Tom

My sentiments exactly!

Good points about Vol. 3. While I enjoy the session it is not SFNL.. Still, there is very little Lee that I do not enjoy. I have the Golson disc as well. Pretty good date as I recall.

[brownie]

There were a couple of different covers for the UA LP's. I had one that looked pretty much like this, as I recall:

Except the yellow was much less yellow

[Brad]

Since every number on the cd was written by Golson, how is it that this wound up being a Morgan session? Golson had already led a BN session ('Philadelphians') by this time hadn't he? Even though I'm quite fond of "Mesabi Chant" and "Tip-Toeing" it's one of those cds that just doesn't get pulled from the stax all that often...and I never see much chatter about it either --- is it viewed as sub-standard or so? Hard to believe.

Getting back to the original question, this is a very good session and from my recollection of the Mosaic book quite highly viewed. Hassan's Dream is very well written and tells a great story. Lee's rendition of I Remember Clifford is the most moving version I've heard of this (although not the original one).

[blue-note-ojc]

Who recorded the original version of I REMEMBER CLIFFORD and what record was it on? I agree that it is the most moving I have heard and I have quite a few versions.

Tom

[Chuck Nessa]

There were a couple of different covers for the UA LP's.  I had one that looked pretty much like this, as I recall:

Except the yellow was much less yellow

My UA copy was different. It was white with Philadelphians in large block letters in pink/rose.

[Michael Fitzgerald]

The first recorded version of I Remember Clifford is on the first Gigi Gryce/Donald Byrd Jazz Lab album for Columbia (January 13, 1957). Gigi Gryce also got there first on Benny Golson's Blues March, recorded for Metrojazz.

Mike

[blue-note-ojc]

Mike,

Thanks for helping me yet again. I do not have that version of I Remember Clifford.

Tom

[Michael Fitzgerald]

You can get it on a Collectables (almost) two-fer. It has all of the first album and most of the second.

COL-5674

Mike

[blue-note-ojc]

Mike,

Another thanks is in order.

Tom