Bol Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 I got this yesterday. Boy, I'll have to side with AMG on this one. It's a very nice session. I cannot help but feel at times that it would have been much better with acoustic piano and no extra percussion, but I know I am very conservative on those matters. I certainly hope that I won't suddenly become a fan of electric piano. All those post-1967 Miles Davis recordings that I've been avoiding may then suddenly become necessities. In any case, this is a very nice, and at times lyrical, session. Hokey at times, but that has its own charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Just listened to the whole album for the first time. I'm not incredible familiar with Getz post-bossa nova -- it's interesting to hear how much chunkier his playing got since then. Very nice music. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I put Captain Marvel on my queue when I signed up at Your Music last month. Guess I'll have to move it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I got this yesterday. Boy, I'll have to side with AMG on this one. It's a very nice session. I cannot help but feel at times that it would have been much better with acoustic piano and no extra percussion, but I know I am very conservative on those matters. I certainly hope that I won't suddenly become a fan of electric piano. All those post-1967 Miles Davis recordings that I've been avoiding may then suddenly become necessities. In any case, this is a very nice, and at times lyrical, session. Hokey at times, but that has its own charm. Just listening to this for the first time (yes I'm slow -- though I did have Sweet Rain before the recent reissue). I don't mind the extra percussion, but I do think it would have been a better sound on a standard, i.e. non-electric piano. I'm sure one day the technology will be there to attempt such a thing. But I am enjoying it for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 This is music that goes whooooooOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh like a bigass jet flying through the sky. The way that Tony plays on this album - dictated by the material - would swallow up an acoustic piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr jazz Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I like not love this session. As others have noted you gotta love electric piano. Worth it overall though. I've found a video of this band which I'm acquiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I've found a video of this band which I'm acquiring. Details, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr jazz Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Here's what I have but I don't have it yet. Montreux June 23 1972 Stan Getz (ts) Chick Corea (p) Stanley Clarke (b) Tony Williams (dr) 1. Captain Marvel (06:30) 2. Day Waves (08:40) 3. Lush Life (05:00) 4. Windows (09:15) 5. I Remember Clifford (05:20) 6. La Fiesta (12:55) 7. Times' Life (13:50) TRT 01:04:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Storer Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9rvv_QFTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHwBoHaH2Q...feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9rvv_QFTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHwBoHaH2Q...feature=related Wow... I can hear Getz thinking about backing down, then realizing that with these guys behind him he'd look/sound like a total wuss if he did, and then going on ahead and digging in for some more. Life itself. whooooooOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9rvv_QFTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHwBoHaH2Q...feature=related Hey thanks for posting this. I never had Captain Marvel in my sights, but this band smokes! Gonna keep my eye for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 This is worth buying for La Fiesta alone. Absolutely smoking performance from all involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 finally upgraded my Capt Mrvel, much better sound. Would love to have that Montreaux perf at full length in any format, avail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9rvv_QFTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHwBoHaH2Q...feature=related Nice leasure suit, Stan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9rvv_QFTs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHwBoHaH2Q...feature=related Hey thanks for posting this. I never had Captain Marvel in my sights, but this band smokes! Gonna keep my eye for it. Picked this one up a few days ago, and I totally disagree with Penguin's critique; this is a very very good 70's Stan album and the electric piano doesn't bother me at all. In fact, La Fiesta, I think, wouldn't work well at all with an acoustic piano. The rest of the album simmers down a bit but wow, La Fiesta is on fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is worth buying for La Fiesta alone. Absolutely smoking performance from all involved! YES YES YES!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I saw that band at the London House in Chicago. They were on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 finally upgraded my Capt Mrvel, much better sound. Would love to have that Montreaux perf at full length in any format, avail? Your wish is my command. :D Complete Live at Montreux 1972 Track Listing 1. Captain Marvel 2. Day Waves 3. Windows 4. Times Lie 5. I Remember Clifford 6. Lush Life 7. La Fiesta 8. Desafinado 9. La Fiesta I have it but haven't really gone through it in depth yet, I remember that the bass was really loud on the first track but they seem to get better balance as the set goes on, IIRC. The last 2 tracks are from Poland in 1974, for some reason, not the same line up obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 thanx, I'll have to look for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 What do people think about this? AMG says that it is a classic, and Penguin Guide says it is a big dud. Care to react? Thanks. Only to your comment and citations. What's wrong with your own ears? You're a big boy. Really, I don't mean to be flip, I swear. But who gives a rat's ass what Penguin (or the Joker---rimshot ) says? Not musicans, I can tell you that. But I guess those guys don't write for us. Still.... As far as my own two cents, I'm a major Stan Getz fan (and not a major CC fan, but I liked his work better in that period, probably his best). I remember Sweet Rain as being very beautiful. Stan's solo on Con Alma was a masterpiece. I rember Captain Marvel a bit and I'm sure I would love it if reminded---mostly for Stan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 As far as my own two cents, I'm a major Stan Getz fan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTwQEa62f8 ....do you know if this entire show is/was available on cd ....or if select tracks from that show appear on any of the various getz boxes/collections that blanket the earth, like this one (though it's a '64-'77)? http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/This-Is-Jazz-14-Get...7QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Many people are highly positive about the Captain Marvel album, but I am not one of them. The electric piano is a big turn off for me. Also many of the tunes on this recording such as"La Fiesta", "Five Hundred Miles High" and the title tune "Captain Marvel" are not to my taste. This is among my least favorite Stan Getz albums. I much prefer the wonderful Getz recordings that came later with Lou Levy or Kenny Barron playing acoustic piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think Getz himself plays very well on the session, and I do like Corea's compositions, but the whole thing is marred, in my view, by the crappy sound of the electric piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 ...would that be "crappy" for electric piano, or "crappy" because it's an electric piano? If the former, I just don't hear it, if the latter it's your lose if you let the instrumentation get in the way of hearing music this wonderful. It's not like there's a rule saying you can't dig this and the records with Kenny Barron too. The instrumentation is part of the concept but irrelevent on a different level too (so I contrtadict myself, or at least seem to, I contain multitudes, so dfoes this music, so could you). Among the many wonderful things about it, it is, perhaps ironically, one of the last times you get to hear the early/old/young Tony Williams, even tough it's chronilogically after Lifetime it's stylistically before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 ...would that be "crappy" for electric piano, or "crappy" because it's an electric piano? If the former, I just don't hear it, if the latter it's your lose if you let the instrumentation get in the way of hearing music this wonderful. It's not like there's a rule saying you can't dig this and the records with Kenny Barron too. The instrumentation is part of the concept but irrelevent on a different level too (so I contrtadict myself, or at least seem to, I contain multitudes, so dfoes this music, so could you). Among the many wonderful things about it, it is, perhaps ironically, one of the last times you get to hear the early/old/young Tony Williams, even tough it's chronilogically after Lifetime it's stylistically before... The particular electric piano used on the date sounds "crappy" to my ears, muddy, mucky, blah. Of course, I only have it on a 1st pressing Columbia LP, so perhaps it sounds better on later issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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