Jim Alfredson Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Posted April 4, 2005 Poor SS1 is still hurting over last years finals. The Pistons made him and every other Laker fan look like the real chumps. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 (edited) shaq is gonna make a BIG statement this post-season he has somethin' to prove they'll lose only 1 game before they play the chu.... pistons it's easy to go from champions to chumpions... look at my fakers Edited April 4, 2005 by Soulstation1 Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Posted April 4, 2005 It sounds like victory!!! Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 I think the Suns can win it all, but they seem like one of those teams that can't withstand the postseason. The Mavs-Suns 2nd round series could be entertaining. Guy Quote
Noj Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 I'd love to see the Suns win, I think they're playing the most exciting basketball in the NBA. However, I don't see them getting past Tim Duncan's Spurs, and even if they did I don't think they'd beat the Heat or the Pistons. Running teams have a hard time beating teams that are stronger in the half-court set, so teams that have big men such as Duncan, Shaq, or Rasheed Wallace/Ben Wallace slow the game down. No turnovers, no fastbreaks, no victory for the Suns. Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 I'd love to see the Suns win, I think they're playing the most exciting basketball in the NBA. However, I don't see them getting past Tim Duncan's Spurs, and even if they did I don't think they'd beat the Heat or the Pistons. Running teams have a hard time beating teams that are stronger in the half-court set, so teams that have big men such as Duncan, Shaq, or Rasheed Wallace/Ben Wallace slow the game down. No turnovers, no fastbreaks, no victory for the Suns. I think they'd beat the Pistons easy. Heat, a little harder. Spurs very tough. Guy Quote
Noj Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 The Pistons have lost that much steam, Guy? I was figuring they would duke it out with the Heat in a seven-gamer for the East. Quote
BruceW Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Phoenix cannot sustain a half court series where so many adjustments have to be made. All they do is run, run, run. In the series, you have to constantly make adjustments to a slower game and they have none at this point. Phoenix is out in the second round. B-) Detroit is starting to toughen up.. Prince is the key.... Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 (edited) The Pistons have lost that much steam, Guy? I was figuring they would duke it out with the Heat in a seven-gamer for the East. I think the Pistons are a little overrated. They're about as good as their record suggests. Some of this is a decline from last year, but I think f the Spurs had made it to the finals, we'd have a different champion this year. Though I agree they will probably push the Heat to seven games. I think I'm going to get Che'd if I keep going on this thread. Jim, have mercy! Guy Edited April 4, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote
Soulstation1 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 i thought the suns or spurs will play the nuggets in the first round suns need a big man to compete in the west kobe's shin is sore imo suns and heat are the best teams in each conference is shaq gonna win the mvp??? ss1 Quote
Soulstation1 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 (edited) the best dunk of the year?? LBJ over jones #19 miami heat they always show this one Edited April 4, 2005 by Soulstation1 Quote
Noj Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 The kid can peak over the top of the rim and look down through it. I bet he can grab the top of the backboard. More hops than Jordan and Dominique in their respective primes. Quote
Tjazz Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Since Duncan is out. I'd like to see the SUNS and NUGGETS duke it out. The other side HEAT and PISTONS. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Posted April 4, 2005 Guy, you have to be kidding me. The Spurs got beat by the Lakers last year. THE LAKERS! You saw what Detroit did to them in the finals, didn't you? It was pitiful (if one is a Lakers fan, that is!) And you think a team that got beat by the Lakers would've beat Detroit? Pul-leaze. I think Detroit is better than they even know. They have had a rough season, what with the brawl, Larry's health problems (and his general restless attitude) and some injuries with a bench that isn't too deep to begin with. But I honestly think they are still a contender. Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 (edited) Guy, you have to be kidding me. The Spurs got beat by the Lakers last year. THE LAKERS! You saw what Detroit did to them in the finals, didn't you? It was pitiful (if one is a Lakers fan, that is!) And you think a team that got beat by the Lakers would've beat Detroit? Pul-leaze. I agree what happened to the Lakers was pitiful. I was glad to see them lose. But what you're saying (Pistons>Lakers & Lakers>Spurs => Pistons>Spurs) doesn't make sense. Just because the Pistons had a much easier time with the Lakers than they did with New Jersey and Indiana doesn't mean that New Jersey and Indiana were better teams than the Lakers (and ergo, the Spurs). It just means that luck often plays a role in these series. Sometimes the worse team (Detroit in the championship, Lakers in the conference finals) wins. Sometimes the better team can't get their act together and doesn't really try. And this isn't intended to diss the Pistons' achievement -- they outplayed the Lakers in that series, by a mile. I think Detroit is better than they even know. They have had a rough season, what with the brawl, Larry's health problems (and his general restless attitude) and some injuries with a bench that isn't too deep to begin with. But I honestly think they are still a contender. I think they're about as good as their record. I agree that they're a contender in that their chances of winning aren't 0. Assuming that they make it past Miami (unlikely), they have a very small chance of beating the Spurs or Suns. They're not an overwhelming underdog against the Mavs. Edited April 5, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote
Noj Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 One can't forget the freakish 0.4 second shot Derek Fisher hit to sink the Spurs in San Antonio. That shot propelled the Lakers to play beyond their injury-riddled roster, but only in getting past the Spurs. When the Finals rolled around, there was no Malone, no Devean George, Rick Fox and GP were playing the worst ball of their careers, and Kobe decided he'd rather force shots than work the ball to Shaq. Combine that with not having anyone to match up well defensively with Rasheed and Rip, and there it was... Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 One can't forget the freakish 0.4 second shot Derek Fisher hit to sink the Spurs in San Antonio. That shot propelled the Lakers to play beyond their injury-riddled roster, but only in getting past the Spurs. When the Finals rolled around, there was no Malone, no Devean George, Rick Fox and GP were playing the worst ball of their careers, and Kobe decided he'd rather force shots than work the ball to Shaq. Combine that with not having anyone to match up well defensively with Rasheed and Rip, and there it was... I think the Spurs were overall a better team and choked. Guy Quote
Noj Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 I think if Karl Malone hadn't gotten injured, we'd be talking about the Lakers' fourpeat. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted April 6, 2005 Report Posted April 6, 2005 lakers wil lose by 25 + points vs suns tonight the game just started ss1 Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 6, 2005 Report Posted April 6, 2005 lakers wil lose by 25 + points vs suns tonight the game just started ss1 You know it's going to be a rough night when you have 59 pts at halftime and are trailing by double digits. Guy Quote
BruceW Posted April 6, 2005 Report Posted April 6, 2005 One can't forget the freakish 0.4 second shot Derek Fisher hit to sink the Spurs in San Antonio. That shot propelled the Lakers to play beyond their injury-riddled roster, but only in getting past the Spurs. When the Finals rolled around, there was no Malone, no Devean George, Rick Fox and GP were playing the worst ball of their careers, and Kobe decided he'd rather force shots than work the ball to Shaq. Combine that with not having anyone to match up well defensively with Rasheed and Rip, and there it was... Well...... That's basketball isn't it, a TEAM effort??? Isn't that why they have 12 men instead of just 5??? Karl Malone was never the issue with the Lakers, you are still grasping for straws.. B-) DETROIT ROCKS YET AGAIN!! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted April 6, 2005 Author Report Posted April 6, 2005 Just because the Pistons had a much easier time with the Lakers than they did with New Jersey and Indiana doesn't mean that New Jersey and Indiana were better teams than the Lakers (and ergo, the Spurs). I think that's exactly what it means. Both New Jersey and Indiana would've done the same thing to the Lakers. The Lakers last year were playing on their reputation and the Spurs bought into it and got psyched out. I agree that a Pistons/Spurs series would be tougher, but I still think the Pistons would've won it. Quote
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