Chuck Nessa Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 remember paragraphs Larry? Hard to read all that. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Posted April 29, 2008 So THAT'S why the book didn't sell. I'll fix this in a minute. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 So THAT'S why the book didn't sell. I'll fix this in a minute. So "moderators" don't tell us they edited their posts! Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Posted April 30, 2008 So THAT'S why the book didn't sell. I'll fix this in a minute. So "moderators" don't tell us they edited their posts! I thought that when you did that, the fact that you'd done it was noted by the system automatically. In fact, I know that's happened every other time I've edited a post. Maybe it didn't happen this time because I didn't change any words, just hit the "return" key several times. Interesting. Quote
Christiern Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 I can readily identify with your post re royalties. BTW, I just ordered your book from Amazon--look forward to reading it. Quote
JSngry Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 remember paragraphs Larry? Hard to read all that. Oh man, thanks. I've been wanting to say that for years, but a combination of love, respect, and itdontmatterallTHATmuch-itness has prevented me from doing so. Maximum Love Points to both y'all, just because. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Posted April 30, 2008 Actually, the book itself is mostly short paragraphs; that's the rhythm of newspaper writing. I guess for me, though, there's something about posting that leads to one continuous, uncensored gush, at least when I get excited. I'll try to watch that. Until I do, though, stand back. And sorry about that image. Quote
JSngry Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 No problem. We are all men of passion. We all gush. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 No problem. We are all men of passion. We all gush. If we are REAL MEN! Quote
AllenLowe Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 look, Larry's the only guy who could write a piece on a musician I had always liked, illustrating several glaring problems with that musician, which only confirmed something which had bothered me for years but which I had kind of ignored, and than made it almost impossible for me to listen to that musician - Bill Evans, of course, and I don't mean Yusef Lateef or the guy who used to play tenor with Miles - what am I gonna do with all these Village Vanguard cds? thanks, Larry - Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Posted April 30, 2008 look, Larry's the only guy who could write a piece on a musician I had always liked, illustrating several glaring problems with that musician, which only confirmed something which had bothered me for years but which I had kind of ignored, and than made it almost impossible for me to listen to that musician - Bill Evans, of course, and I don't mean Yusef Lateef or the guy who used to play tenor with Miles - what am I gonna do with all these Village Vanguard cds? thanks, Larry - But, Allen, I love the Village Vanguard Evans trio. It's what I think happened (or became more visible) later on that led to my dire speculations. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 So THAT'S why the book didn't sell. I'll fix this in a minute. So "moderators" don't tell us they edited their posts! I thought that when you did that, the fact that you'd done it was noted by the system automatically. In fact, I know that's happened every other time I've edited a post. Maybe it didn't happen this time because I didn't change any words, just hit the "return" key several times. Interesting. No. When a moderator edits one of his posts, there's an option that you have to positively select by ticking a box to put the same kind of "edited on" statement that appears automatically on everyone else's edited posts. I suspect that, in the big world of forums (fora), there are reasons which may be something to do with moderators having the ability to edit others' posts - without this being known, unless the moderator wishes. And yes, efore you ask, it's dead easy for a moderator to edit someone else's post. I nearly did once, when I hit the edit button instead of reply. And it all looks nearly the same... MG Quote
AllenLowe Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 (edited) I know, Larry, but after reading your chapter I now find Evans annoying in key ways - it's odd and interesting, but there are certain tendencies he has (that you pointed out) that I now find glaring in nearly everything he played - though I will admit my difficulties with his music are augmented by having met him in his last years (his wife was a friend of mine) and being put off by his slow personal narcissistic descent - I also disliked Helen Keane - but such are the problems of getting to know these people personally. It's a good thing I never met Dostoyevskey - Edited April 30, 2008 by AllenLowe Quote
Christiern Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 It all depends on how one knows people personally. I always got along well with Helen Keane and found he to be pleasant company, but I can see how her perhaps overly protective ways re Bill might result in a less favorable impression. I knew her both socially and in a working environment, but we were on the same side when it came to the latter (a Broadway project). Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 Did Helen Keane also manage Art Farmer? She's listed as producer of some of his albums. MG Quote
AllenLowe Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 she probably did good things for Evans - problem was that there was something of a power struggle over Evans between his wife and his manager - can't say much more for privacy reasons, it was just real unpleasant - Quote
Hoppy T. Frog Posted May 1, 2008 Report Posted May 1, 2008 If it makes you feel any better Larry, I bought mine off the shelf at a chain bookstore! Quote
AllenLowe Posted May 1, 2008 Report Posted May 1, 2008 actually, I saw an old lady reading it in the park, I hit her over the head, and ran away with it - Quote
BruceH Posted May 1, 2008 Report Posted May 1, 2008 By the way Larry, I happened to find it in a local Borders that actually had a stack of copies. I kind of assumed that most of them did. Oh, well. Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 1, 2008 Author Report Posted May 1, 2008 By the way Larry, I happened to find it in a local Borders that actually had a stack of copies. I kind of assumed that most of them did. Oh, well. That's good news. About when was that, if you remember? Quote
AllenLowe Posted May 2, 2008 Report Posted May 2, 2008 thinking about Evans...and the odd coldness of the later work - made me remember something - in 1979 (I think it was) his wife Nan held a 50th birthday party for him in Branford Connecticut - interesting party, Warne Marsh and George Russell showed up (I attended with my wife-to-be who was unimpressed until I told her that I felt like being at the party was like going to an event and meeting Mozart and Beethoven - sorry, it was the best I could come up with on short notice; she was trying to figure out why I, all of 25 years old, was somewhat beside myself) - anyway, late in the evening Evans sat down at their piano (they had a nice 6 foot Baldwin) and played a beautiful solo version of Stars Fell on Alabama - it was like 1959 again, and I remember thinking at the time that this was an Evans you never heard any more, just playing without any conscious effect, warm and tender and un-mediated by audience or self-expectations. So, he could still do it if he wanted to - Quote
BruceH Posted May 3, 2008 Report Posted May 3, 2008 By the way Larry, I happened to find it in a local Borders that actually had a stack of copies. I kind of assumed that most of them did. Oh, well. That's good news. About when was that, if you remember? Right when it came out, as far as I can recall. Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Posted May 3, 2008 By the way Larry, I happened to find it in a local Borders that actually had a stack of copies. I kind of assumed that most of them did. Oh, well. That's good news. About when was that, if you remember? Right when it came out, as far as I can recall. That's what I thought. I'm just glad that there was a stack of copies somewhere. One reason I was happy that I had that (I think) marvelously atmospheric snapshot of Ira Sullivan, Johnny Griffin, and bassist Nevin Wilson to give them to use on the cover is that I thought it made for as good a cover as could be for a jazz book, and that if I worked in a book store, I might put the book on display for that reason alone. As one musician (saxophonist Tim Armacost) said of the cover after I'd sent him a copy of the book: "Nice shades." Quote
AllenLowe Posted May 4, 2008 Report Posted May 4, 2008 I think it woulda sold better with a little cheesecake - Quote
Christiern Posted May 4, 2008 Report Posted May 4, 2008 You just gave me an idea, Allen. I mean, for my Bessie Spears book... Quote
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