mikeweil Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I gave mine away but made me a copy first ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Well, the title is The Complete Mercury Max Roach Plus Four Sessions so that indicates that the Argo isn't there. But of course it's all owned by Universal and is by the same group, so why it wasn't included in the first place is a good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) This post offers some explanation. But the project's scope was dramatically altered. With Verve it was planned to include all the Impulse recordings, the Freedom Now Suite (licensed from Candid), and the never-issued outtakes from Freedom Now which are in the possession of a private collector. The Mercury LP of Roach with the Boston Percussion Ensemble would have been included too. Also, photos would have been much more varied, rather than all from one source. But after years of no activity at all, at least it's good to have what Mosaic issued. Mike Edited May 15, 2007 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Well, the title is The Complete Mercury Max Roach Plus Four Sessions so that indicates that the Argo isn't there. But of course it's all owned by Universal and is by the same group, so why it wasn't included in the first place is a good question. Because "The Complete Max Roach Mercury and Argo Plus Four Sessions" would have been too long a title? Edited May 18, 2007 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Something good actually came from this (me selling that CD): I only then realized that it had also been issued on one CD together with Art Blakey's "Tough!". Got the disc (called "Percussion Discussion") this week. Sound is drastically different from the stand-alone edition of "Max!" btw., a lot more trebly (sounds better to me that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane_fanatic Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 (edited) I have a feeling this box will be getting major play in the next few weeks from a lotta of us Maxophiles here. Edited August 16, 2007 by trane_fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 It's going right on my deck tonight, CD1 onwards. A fitting tribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 It's off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to thread starter Leeway? He hasn't been here since January 2005! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 It's going right on my deck tonight, CD1 onwards. A fitting tribute. I think I'll do the same. J.A.W....no idea about Leeway. I do miss his contributions to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Now what's missing that was issued on other labels? Max - Argo, 1958 Deeds, Not Words - Riverside, 1958 Award-Winning Drummer - Time, 1959 We Insist: Freedom Now! Suite - Candid, 1960 Percussion Bitter Sweet - Impulse, 1961 It's Time - Impulse, 1962 Max Roach with the Boston Percussion Ensemble - EmArcy, 1958 Live recordings: LA TV recording, Oct 6, 1958 - Calliope Long As You're Living (Kaiserslautern, Feb 5, 1960) - ENJA Paris, Feb 1960 - BYG and other issues ... and these with substantial parts of the group: Booker Little 4 + Max Roach - United Artists, 1958 Abbey Lincoln - Abbey Is Blue - Riverside, 1959 Tommy Turrentine - Time, 1960 Booker Little and friend - Bethlehem, 1960 Abbey Lincoln, Straight Ahead - Candid, 1960 Newport Rebels sessions with Max Roach Quintet as core group - Candid, 1960 not counting those with only two of the group: Kenny Dorham, jazz Contrasts - Riverside, 1958 Stanley Turrentine - Time, 1959 or 1960 That list misses "Sonny Rollins Plays for Bird" (Prestige, 1956) - it's the only recording of the Roach quintet (some tracks minus KD, just quartet) in the version with the fine Wade Legge on piano. Rollins of course already used the full Roach Quintet for his own "Plus Four" album earlier on Prestige, too, but that was with Brownie still around, hence before the time-frame of this discussion, while the "Plays for Bird" fits right in with the first Mercury sessions with the same frontline of Rollins/KD and as usual George Morrow on bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 It's off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to thread starter Leeway? He hasn't been here since January 2005! Previous search for Leeway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Remind me... when did this go OOP??? I'm thrilled I've got it... though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjarrell Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. Does anyone have access to it? I know I have most of the recordings on separate cds, but I'm missing a couple. One that I'm missing is the Rich/Roach one, which I just figure is goofy. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. Does anyone have access to it? I know I have most of the recordings on separate cds, but I'm missing a couple. One that I'm missing is the Rich/Roach one, which I just figure is goofy. Am I wrong? I'm guessing that the discography is no longer there for out-of-print sets. IMO, the Rich/Roach recording while looking "goofy" on the surface works quite well. It's definitely worth listening to, at least. Each drummer's group was a good one and Buddy and Max often light up some fireworks in their solos and exchanges. They were surprisingly compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. I'm guessing that the discography is no longer there for out-of-print sets. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. I'm guessing that the discography is no longer there for out-of-print sets. Correct. A quick Google search turned up this page that seems to have the discography info from the original Mosaic site. http://audiophileaudition.com/audaud/JAN02.../jazzJAN02.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjarrell Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. I'm guessing that the discography is no longer there for out-of-print sets. Correct. A quick Google search turned up this page that seems to have the discography info from the original Mosaic site. http://audiophileaudition.com/audaud/JAN02.../jazzJAN02.html Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 anybody got an answer to this???? :unsure: Remind me... when did this go OOP??? I'm thrilled I've got it... though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 anybody got an answer to this???? :unsure: Remind me... when did this go OOP??? I'm thrilled I've got it... though A couple months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 The O. Max Roach running low alert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I can't seem to work the magic trick of finding the discography on Mosaic's site. I'm guessing that the discography is no longer there for out-of-print sets. Correct. A quick Google search turned up this page that seems to have the discography info from the original Mosaic site. http://audiophileaudition.com/audaud/JAN02.../jazzJAN02.html Thanks! It's also in this post of the thread brownie linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 thanks.... I assume everyone who wanted it got a copy??? right!!! <_< anybody got an answer to this???? :unsure: Remind me... when did this go OOP??? I'm thrilled I've got it... though A couple months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 thanks.... I assume everyone who wanted it got a copy??? right!!! <_< anybody got an answer to this???? :unsure: Remind me... when did this go OOP??? I'm thrilled I've got it... though A couple months ago. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdrat Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Hey, Only 17 Years Later! I just wanted to say that I finally picked up this wonderful set. I haven't even finished the first disk and I am "high" from the freshness of the recording and the quality of the mastering. I have been bothered by the low quality recordings available for my favorite late fifties bop and Mosaic came through again. I also love (as I am sure many of you) the consistency of the mastering session to session which just makes listening such a pleasure. As you might have figured I am a long time lurker that really appreciates all the knowledge I have received on these forums. Â Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 A private collector had out-takes from We Insist in 2007. Where are they now, 17 years later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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