Guest akanalog Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 how do people feel about "journey's end" on ECM? i think it is from the early 80s...a store here just got a copy. i think it hasn't been reissued in the US. this is a euro import. penguin likes it, i think...don't remember. and amg likes it. anyone here it. good lineup-taylor, surman, christensen i think... Quote
mikeweil Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) how do people feel about "journey's end" on ECM? That was only the third LP of this quartet: First Meeting ECM 1145 recorded May 1979, Oslo John Surman, Kenny Kirkland, Miroslav Vitous, Jon Christensen Miroslav Vitous Group ECM 1185 recorded July 1980, Oslo same lineup Journey's End ECM 1242 recorded July 1982, Oslo John Taylor for Kirkland I like them - but saw the band live in 1982, and they played much hotter on stage than on the albums. As I said, his reworkings of early Weather Report material on these is very interesting. Edited October 23, 2004 by mikeweil Quote
porcy62 Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 how do people feel about "journey's end" on ECM? i think it is from the early 80s...a store here just got a copy. i think it hasn't been reissued in the US. this is a euro import. penguin likes it, i think...don't remember. and amg likes it. anyone here it. good lineup-taylor, surman, christensen i think... By chance, I listened at this Lp yesterday, I forgot I had bought it twenty years ago! Not a very carefully listening because I had to fix the flowers in the terrace. I like it, it remembers me the WR groove, with Surman instead of Shorter, and acoustic piano instead of electric one. Just to say that Zawinul, that I really love, was wrong about Vitous! Quote
Guest akanalog Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 so this album has sort of an acoustic fusion-ey groove going? is that what you are saying? interesting... i figured this album might be too contemplative and atmospheric... Quote
porcy62 Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 so this album has sort of an acoustic fusion-ey groove going? is that what you are saying? interesting... i figured this album might be too contemplative and atmospheric... Well, I couldn't say is a fusion lp, but... Get it, it surely worths the cost. Quote
Guest akanalog Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 thanks. well ok, i don't mean fusion, but... is it more bass groove oriented? i was worried there would be a lot of atmospheric solo arco stuff going on.... thanks. Quote
porcy62 Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 thanks. well ok, i don't mean fusion, but... is it more bass groove oriented? i was worried there would be a lot of atmospheric solo arco stuff going on.... thanks. I would say: not too much a bow record, for ECM stuff! Quote
mikeweil Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 Click here for a nice gallery of Vitous album covers. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 23, 2004 Report Posted October 23, 2004 I'd give 'Journey's End' a big thumbs up. Not really fusion at all - with both John Surman and John Taylor on board it is very similar to their recordings. Worth buying for 'Tess', to my mind Surman's most beautiful composition. If you've an aversion to ECM (as some people have) I'd say ignore it. If you like things like the Ralph Towner Solstice group or the Jarrett European quartet of the late 70s then you'll love this. Quote
riverrat Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 I'd give 'Journey's End' a big thumbs up. Not really fusion at all - with both John Surman and John Taylor on board it is very similar to their recordings. Worth buying for 'Tess', to my mind Surman's most beautiful composition. If you've an aversion to ECM (as some people have) I'd say ignore it. If you like things like the Ralph Towner Solstice group or the Jarrett European quartet of the late 70s then you'll love this. I just got this- Journey's End. Great stuff. Inspires me to look for more Miroslav. Quote
Eric Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) I'd give 'Journey's End' a big thumbs up. Not really fusion at all - with both John Surman and John Taylor on board it is very similar to their recordings. Worth buying for 'Tess', to my mind Surman's most beautiful composition. If you've an aversion to ECM (as some people have) I'd say ignore it. If you like things like the Ralph Towner Solstice group or the Jarrett European quartet of the late 70s then you'll love this. I just got this- Journey's End. Great stuff. Inspires me to look for more Miroslav. Yes - I like that one too - glad to see others enjoying it. He has a new one coming out on ECM this month or next. Edited July 12, 2007 by Eric Quote
mr jazz Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 I just heard Kim Clarke two days ago, two hours of playing, and yes, she did a few simple licks here and there (obviously, as they were playing Hendrix compositions, see this thread), yet she did astonishing things, without EVER getting flashy (unlike all those Weather Report bassists who do get pretty flashy), and she HAS THE GROOVE! (Is Kim Clarke the Goddess of funk bass? I guess so...) I saw Kim Clarke in double bass backing Joe Henderson on his European tour with all-female backing (Renée Rosnes and Sylvia Cuenca were on piano and drums, all excellent). She was five months pregnant at the time and had to reach even wider over her belly for the bass strings, making it a little uncomfortable, but she swung the band! AFAIR she was with Material or some Jazz/Funk group of musicians as well etc. etc. - one of many underrecorded female jazz musicians. Didn't she play with Defunkt? I remember being wowed by their female bassist and I think it was Kim Clarke. This was 20 years ago and those were the party days so not sure if it was her. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 I just got this - Journey's End. Great stuff. Inspires me to look for more Miroslav. If you like it, you will like the two others by quartet, too! Same type of mood, but not too similar. Quote
king ubu Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 I just heard Kim Clarke two days ago, two hours of playing, and yes, she did a few simple licks here and there (obviously, as they were playing Hendrix compositions, see this thread), yet she did astonishing things, without EVER getting flashy (unlike all those Weather Report bassists who do get pretty flashy), and she HAS THE GROOVE! (Is Kim Clarke the Goddess of funk bass? I guess so...) I saw Kim Clarke in double bass backing Joe Henderson on his European tour with all-female backing (Renée Rosnes and Sylvia Cuenca were on piano and drums, all excellent). She was five months pregnant at the time and had to reach even wider over her belly for the bass strings, making it a little uncomfortable, but she swung the band! AFAIR she was with Material or some Jazz/Funk group of musicians as well etc. etc. - one of many underrecorded female jazz musicians. Didn't she play with Defunkt? I remember being wowed by their female bassist and I think it was Kim Clarke. This was 20 years ago and those were the party days so not sure if it was her. Yes, she played/plays with Defunkt - last I know is an early 2000s recording of a Zurich gig - mostly new guys, except for her and Joseph Bowie, but a smokin' gig! Didn't follow the band in the years before or after, though. Now on topic: Vitous has a second helping of "Universal Syncopations" coming out - doesn't sound like it's of interest to me, but I just got the news in a mailing and seing this thread up, I thought I'd share it nevertheless: info in german http://www.jazzecho.de/miroslav_vitous_uni...s_ii_126406.jsp the band includes among others: Randy Brecker (Trompete), Gary Campbell (Saxes), Bob Mintzer (Sax, Klarinette) und Adam Nussbaum (Drums) Tracks: 1 Opera 2 Breakthrough 3 The Prayer 4 Solar Giant 5 Mediterranean Love 6 Gmoong 7 Universal Evolution 8 Moment Quote
AndrewHill Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 Today while driving and listening to XM radio I hear a tune being played titled "Tramp Blues". It was Miroslav Vitous off this cd from 2003. Universal Syncopations It's sounds real good to me. According to AMG this is his first jazz release since 1992. Any thoughts/recommendations on this cd and the man? I like this one quite a bit! My first real exposure to MV was through Corea's Now he Sings/Sobs and was immediately impressed. Consequently I have not heard his other disks. Would like to though. Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 I like this one quite a bit! My first real exposure to MV was through Corea's Now he Sings/Sobs and was immediately impressed. Consequently I have not heard his other disks. Would like to though. You haven't heard Infinite Search? Get thee to the record store, young man! I never picked up the original Universal Syncopations due to the reviews on this thread, and the upcoming sequel holds even less appeal. Guy Quote
Eric Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 I like this one quite a bit! My first real exposure to MV was through Corea's Now he Sings/Sobs and was immediately impressed. Consequently I have not heard his other disks. Would like to though. You haven't heard Infinite Search? Get thee to the record store, young man! I never picked up the original Universal Syncopations due to the reviews on this thread, and the upcoming sequel holds even less appeal. Guy Infinite Search (or Mountain in the Clouds) is a stone classic, IMHO. It was one of my first jazz lps, before I knew who the players "were". Quote
AndrewHill Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 I like this one quite a bit! My first real exposure to MV was through Corea's Now he Sings/Sobs and was immediately impressed. Consequently I have not heard his other disks. Would like to though. You haven't heard Infinite Search? Get thee to the record store, young man! I never picked up the original Universal Syncopations due to the reviews on this thread, and the upcoming sequel holds even less appeal. Guy Infinite Search (or Mountain in the Clouds) is a stone classic, IMHO. It was one of my first jazz lps, before I knew who the players "were". I see that its readily available at mid-price-I'm all over it! Quote
AndrewHill Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 Just listened to the sound clips-WOW! Quote
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