Album of the Week: Oct 10 - 17

[Gary]

Gary asked me to contribute to this thread, so....

I haven't been around for a while because I've got back/RSI problems which prevent me posting in an ongoing way. But I've got an article about late Coltrane which may be can be of interest:

Circling Om

This is a kind of wound-up (which doesn't help my back), intellectual article.

Hope that's OK.

Simon Weil

Thanks Simon

[Simon Weil]

Great to have you back Simon. I look forward to reading this after lunch.

Good luck with the health issues.

Thanks Chuck.

Simon Weil

[brownie]

Welcome back, Simon. Excellent contribution. Hope you will be back with more contributions!

[Chuck Nessa]

I bought the lp on the day it was issued. I was so taken by Coltrane's solo entry, I could not really get into the 2nd version with the same passion. I think on balance the 2nd version has slightly more interesting solos by the sidemen but Trane on 1 still seals the deal for me.

[Simon Weil]

Welcome back, Simon. Excellent contribution. Hope you will be back with more contributions!

Thanks Brownie (got an Ayler article to write after the RSI goes).

Simon Weil

Edited October 17, 2004 by Simon Weil

[Guy Berger]

Obviously this a personal thing but I really wish Ascension had been a "concerto" for Trane rather than a blowing session. My favorite parts of each take are the ensembles and Trane's solos. But at this point in Trane's career I'd gladly trade all the other soloists for more of his playing. There's a reason I put on Meditations or the '65 quartet recordings much more frequently than Ascension.

My other beef is tied to something that Mtume said about the '73-'75 Miles Davis band. He said something along the lines of "the band was like an extremely compressed balloon, with a lot of intensity at the beginning of a concert and turning it down as the concert progressed." I get the same feeling listening to the album. Coltrane's solo, and the two ensembles sound like a sleeping giant waking up, but as the balloon deflates I become less and less interested until I'm completely zoned out for the rhythm section's solos.

My favorite soloist besides Trane is Pharoah. He's awesome here.

Guy

[Alon Marcus]

Here is a nice comparison between few big "free" groups.

http://www.jazzinamerica.org/l_stylesheets.asp?StyleID=15

[Guy Berger]

Here is a nice comparison between few big "free" groups.

http://www.jazzinamerica.org/l_stylesheets.asp?StyleID=15

Wow, that was interesting. Thanks!

Guy

[Nate Dorward]

Some hilarious stuff on that site--try the account of ragtime, which includes gems like these:

The music was white (or European) in essence, although most of its practitioners were black

This music was accepted by the black bourgeois in spite of its sterile and static nature

&c.

[Alon Marcus]

What so hilarious about it?

[ASNL77]

I have tried to listen to 'Ascension' at different times of the day, of the week but the result is always the same.I just don't like it.I don't enjoy any of the stuff Coltrane recorded after 1963 and I am pleased I am not the only one!!! But 'Love Supreme' is a treasure.

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Quite contradictory, considering A Love Supreme was recorded on December 9, 1964.

Mike

[ASNL77]

Quite contradictory, considering A Love Supreme was recorded on December 9, 1964.

Mike

OOPS! Well spotted Mike.Well, I don't like Coltrane's stuff recorded after 1963 except 'Love Supreme'

[Nate Dorward]

What so hilarious about it?

Cause it wrong.

[Alon Marcus]

What so hilarious about it?

Cause it wrong.

No. It is not wrong. Maybe inexact or requires additional information, but not wrong.

[Guy Berger]

Quite contradictory, considering A Love Supreme was recorded on December 9, 1964.

Mike

OOPS! Well spotted Mike.Well, I don't like Coltrane's stuff recorded after 1963 except 'Love Supreme'

Not even the relatively conservative Crescent?

Guy