7/4 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I know I do. Joe Morris is an original. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I know nothing of Joe Morris. Do I want to get this one? It's a good way to meet Joe Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Yeah, this one could be great. Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist? It's on the wish list. Be interested to hear from anyone who orders it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Braxton is rapidly bankrupting me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I really can't wait to receive this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Yeah, this one could be great. Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist? Three albums' worth with Derek Bailey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 There's a great track as well on the GTM box on Ratascan - a duo with John Shiurba IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonguthartz Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist? In addition to the aforementioned meetings with Bailey & Shiurba, there's a recording with Fred Frith, Duo (Victoriaville) 2005 (Victo). Also, as I recall, there's a duo album with James Emery that has never been released (not sure why); you can otherwise hear some terrific Emery with Braxton on the 1980 trio recording, Composition No. 94 (Leo/Golden Years of New Jazz). There's a photo of Emery playing with Braxton here (scroll down half way). Edited March 19, 2008 by jasonguthartz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist? In addition to the aforementioned meetings with Bailey & Shiurba, there's a recording with Fred Frith, Duo (Victoriaville) 2005 (Victo). Also, as I recall, there's a duo album with James Emery that has never been released (not sure why); you can otherwise hear some terrific Emery with Braxton on the 1980 trio recording, Composition No. 94 (Leo/Golden Years of New Jazz). There's a photo of Emery playing with Braxton here (scroll down half way). Very nice. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Clugston Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist? In addition to the aforementioned meetings with Bailey & Shiurba, there's a recording with Fred Frith, Duo (Victoriaville) 2005 (Victo). Also, as I recall, there's a duo album with James Emery that has never been released (not sure why); you can otherwise hear some terrific Emery with Braxton on the 1980 trio recording, Composition No. 94 (Leo/Golden Years of New Jazz). There's a photo of Emery playing with Braxton here (scroll down half way). The disc with Emery was to be called Articulations (Duo) 1992 and was supposed to be released by Diapason. Tried contacting the label a few years ago, but no reply. Too bad, because Braxton and Emery are magical whenever they get together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 from the Yahoo Braxton list: Jason Guthartz writes in thread 40 years ago today...: The trio of Anthony Braxton, Leroy Jenkins & Leo Smith went into a studio in Chicago, under the supervision of Chuck Nessa (super vision indeed!), and created the first recording of a Braxton composition ("Comp. 6E"), issued on "3 Compositions of New Jazz" (Delmark). (that is, assuming "For Alto" was in fact recorded in 1969, or if in 1968, not before this session) Franz Fuchs writes: And it was 20 years ago - - not quite today, I assume, but I don't know the exact date -- that Graham Lock's "Forces In Motion" was released, probably the seminal text on Braxton. Wherever you place Lock in relation to the other Braxton books (and they all have their respective strenghts), "Forces In Motion" is a great achievement which has done a lot to spread the word about Braxton's work. It's worthwhile reading not only for the things you learn about Braxton but also rewards close study by aspiring journalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 from the Yahoo Braxton list: Jason Guthartz writes in thread 40 years ago today...: The trio of Anthony Braxton, Leroy Jenkins & Leo Smith went into a studio in Chicago, under the supervision of Chuck Nessa (super vision indeed!), and created the first recording of a Braxton composition ("Comp. 6E"), issued on "3 Compositions of New Jazz" (Delmark). (that is, assuming "For Alto" was in fact recorded in 1969, or if in 1968, not before this session) Franz Fuchs writes: And it was 20 years ago - - not quite today, I assume, but I don't know the exact date -- that Graham Lock's "Forces In Motion" was released, probably the seminal text on Braxton. Wherever you place Lock in relation to the other Braxton books (and they all have their respective strenghts), "Forces In Motion" is a great achievement which has done a lot to spread the word about Braxton's work. It's worthwhile reading not only for the things you learn about Braxton but also rewards close study by aspiring journalists. Very nice. I read "Forces in Motion" while soaking in the recordings from the 85 tour and it really opened up Braxton's music for me. Still scratching the surface in many ways, of course, but have been lucky enough to gather together a fistful of his most notable efforts (not the Nessa-supervised session, however), including Dortmund, Montreux/Berlin, For Alto, the great Iridium box and an additional smattering of GTM stuff. Braxton almost never disappoints -- (the standards stuff I quite enjoy, even though it suffers from criticisms that Braxton can't manage it. I'm not convinced that's a correct judgment in any event.) ... The Crispell, Hemingway, Dresser tour remains a favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Important Records is releasing a 4cd box of 4 GTM compositions. Only $23.99. More info here: Braxton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Important Records is releasing a 4cd box of 4 GTM compositions. Only $23.99. More info here: Braxton yeah, when is this actually being released though? I've been waiting for my pre-order for over a week past the alleged release date, and still nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Mine's on the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Mine's on the way! Rod is a special customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Mine's on the way!Rod is a special customer. It helps if you buy all of the writings first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 The Triaxium Writings and the Composition Notes should be pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 The Triaxium Writings and the Composition Notes should be pretty interesting. I can't get through a set of his liner notes without Tylenol. There are some that I still don't understand after reading them many, many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 The Triaxium Writings and the Composition Notes should be pretty interesting. I can't get through a set of his liner notes without Tylenol. There are some that I still don't understand after reading them many, many times. I think that by the time I could afford them, I bought guitars instead. Also, Forces In Motion was plenty inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 They're incredible and pretty awe inspiring. Two things tho: 1) I wish he'd take the time to update them. He's at nearly 400 compositions and so only about 30% is documented in the writings. 2) I've been a bit ambivalent about the binding that's been used, but it does lay nicely flat if you need to study them in detail. I think that he's busier than he's ever been and for that I'm happy - I just wish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I would dearly love to have a go at reading some of his writings but I fear total incomprehension and an impending sense of money waste. I think I'll get Forces In Motion shortly as i like a bit of reading material on this sort of maverik. Back to the music, I've been listening to the 6 Compositions (GTM) 2001 box and I've been getting quite a lot from the pared down performances. The Iridium is better composition wise in my opinion but sometimes the mass of players can obscure the intentions. Here everything is up front and visible and quite fascinating. I've not got to grips with the long composition over 2 cds yet, find it quite difficult to apply myself to something so singular over such a period that isn't of the ambient/noise variety that you can fade in/out of. I have been neglecting ole Brax though in favour of more mild music with an aim to improve my own playing. As much as I enjoy parping along to a Braxton date I feel most of it flying obscenely over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I would dearly love to have a go at reading some of his writings but I fear total incomprehension and an impending sense of money waste. I think I'll get Forces In Motion shortly as i like a bit of reading material on this sort of maverik. Back to the music, I've been listening to the 6 Compositions (GTM) 2001 box and I've been getting quite a lot from the pared down performances. The Iridium is better composition wise in my opinion but sometimes the mass of players can obscure the intentions. Here everything is up front and visible and quite fascinating. I've not got to grips with the long composition over 2 cds yet, find it quite difficult to apply myself to something so singular over such a period that isn't of the ambient/noise variety that you can fade in/out of. I have been neglecting ole Brax though in favour of more mild music with an aim to improve my own playing. As much as I enjoy parping along to a Braxton date I feel most of it flying obscenely over my head. Forces in Motion is very readable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I thought so too. There's been a bunch of Down Beat articles/interviews over the years with Braxton that also make for interesting reading. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 This month I got Trio & Duet (1974 I think?) from eMusic and it is frankly superb. The second 'side' is my first experience of Dave Holland and it's a joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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