CJ Shearn Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Anyone hear this one yet and care to offer an opinion? I just ordered it off CDUniverse, I really like Watts' debut "Citizen Tain" and saw that the new live album has Kenny Garrett, which is definitely a plus. Quote
sal Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Didn't even know this was coming out....thanks CJ Shearn. Just ordered it. Tain is always a great listen, and throw in some live Kenny Garrett and I'm willing to bet this will be a really good one. Quote
Lazaro Vega Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Long, long excursions on previously documented in the studio music. Rafi Zabor has described Watts playing at its most energetic as the aural convergence of two conflicting weather systems. The portions of the music on "Detained at the Blue Note" with Garrett go right up to hysteria and beat it about the ears. By the way, what Trane tune is the bass riff from "Sigmond Groid" lifted from? Quote
CJ Shearn Posted September 20, 2004 Author Report Posted September 20, 2004 wow, sounds like an exciting listen. Quote
blue lake Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 Have you heard Garrett with Roy Haynes do "Little Suede Shoes" as a duo? Quote
gnhrtg Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 Have you heard Garrett with Roy Haynes do "Little Suede Shoes" as a duo? Yes, live, and very good it was, imho. Quote
cannonball-addict Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 I have all of his other albums. I was most impressed with the recent reissue of Megawatts. I first got into him on Michael Brecker's disc, "Two Blocks From the Edge" (TBFTE). I usually like what I head from Tain though I am aware of detractors. There was a great Before & After in Jazztimes relatively recently where the musician being tested was Tain. He apparently didn't really get into jazz fully until he made the move from Pittsburgh to Boston to attend Berklee, where of course he met Branford and Kevin Eubanks and others. He is always on tour with Branford. And he has really developed a rapport with Eric Revis and Joey Calderazzo. I liked that cut on Bar Talk where Branford gets crushed by Brecker. Bran has this tendency to invite other horn players onto his albums and then he'll end up looking bad (i.e. next to Brecker - a guy who has played extensively with Joey C and Tain too). I can't wait for this new record. I missed it on the AAJ upcoming releases. Is he still with Columbia? Or Blue Note now? He doesn't have a website so I can't tell. I too am a huge fan of Kenny Garrett (what a sound on that alto - no one comes close but Steve Wilson and he's kind of a KG clone in some respects). P.S. His tune, "The Impaler" has taken on cult status for it's adventurous melody. I like the later refined versions. The early takes from Megawatts with Kenny Kirkland (who I've heard helped Tain's compositions a lot) are not as hot as the version on Brecker's TBFTE. Quote
gnhrtg Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 I liked that cut on Bar Talk where Branford gets crushed by Brecker. Bran has this tendency to invite other horn players onto his albums and then he'll end up looking bad (i.e. next to Brecker - a guy who has played extensively with Joey C and Tain too). Yes, also see "Judas Iscariot" on "The Dark Keys," one of Kenny Garrett's better solos there. Oh and so long as we're talking Watts, I enjoy his drumming and a very, very, able drummer he is to boot. "Bartalk," though I picked it up as soon as it was out, did not do much for me, on the whole - despite a couple of rather good tunes. As for "Detained," I'm getting it soon. Quote
DTMX Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 His tune, "The Impaler" has taken on cult status for it's adventurous melody. I like the later refined versions. The early takes from Megawatts with Kenny Kirkland (who I've heard helped Tain's compositions a lot) are not as hot as the version on Brecker's TBFTE. When Branford Marsalis played Atlanta a couple of years ago, the last song of the night was The Impaler. Tain was playing so hard that he broke his bass drum pedal in the middle of the song. They tried to fix it but couldn't so the encore ended up being a simple blues jam (with greatly subdued drums). Quote
CJ Shearn Posted September 23, 2004 Author Report Posted September 23, 2004 Golt the album today, very nice. I dfidn't realize "107 Steps" was a Bjork song, my friend Daniel is crazy about Bjork's stuff, I've heard a lot of tracks he sent me and quite a bit of "Medulla" at B&N the other day, but I gotta say, I don't really like her even if she is very unique, however I do like Watts "107 Steps". Quote
Alfred Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 ... Is he still with Columbia? Or Blue Note now? ... Half Note Records Quote
DTMX Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 ... Is he still with Columbia? Or Blue Note now? ... Half Note Records Which is only half as prestigous as being on Blue Note. Quote
blue lake Posted September 24, 2004 Report Posted September 24, 2004 Watts is all over the new Alice Coltrane Cd on Impulse (along with Jack DeJohnette). Quote
montg Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 I'm interested in picking this up, in part because I'd like to check out Marcus Strickland...But, 15 minute songs, recorded live, from a band led by a drummer... makes me think there's gotta be a loooong drum solo or two on this set. 5 or 10 minute drum solos wear thin pretty quickly for me. Any such beasts on this CD? Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 2, 2004 Author Report Posted October 2, 2004 montg, not really. Tain takes short solos over vamps, most of the solo space is alloted for Garrett and Strickland. Quote
montg Posted October 2, 2004 Report Posted October 2, 2004 That's good to hear. I was able to find some brief sound samples of this at the barnes and noble web site and it sounded really good. I guess it goes on the list! Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 2, 2004 Author Report Posted October 2, 2004 on "Mr. JJ", Strickland should have soloed first tho, b/c there is really no way he could follow Garrett's smoldering spot, good tune tho. Quote
BeBop Posted January 7, 2005 Report Posted January 7, 2005 Smokin!!! Smokin' indeed. Recommended, especially for those needing something stronger than morning caffeine. Quote
marcello Posted January 8, 2005 Report Posted January 8, 2005 I am a admirer of Kenny Garrett but on Sigmund Groid here, his solo is a few chorses too many! You can hear Tain giving him some cues to stop here, more than once. Here is a photo of Paul Bollenback, Joe Locke, TAIN and James Genus Quote
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