Guest akanalog Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 i am listening to a live performance from 1998 by B.L.U.E. (bruford levin upper extremities) and chris botti is on trumpet. he is rocking out and fitting in nicely with the leaders and david torn on guitar. i thought chris botti was a smooth jazz cheeseball. am i wrong? maybe he sold out after this gig? Quote
7/4 Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 akanalog said: i am listening to a live performance from 1998 by B.L.U.E. (bruford levin upper extremities) and chris botti is on trumpet. he is rocking out and fitting in nicely with the leaders and david torn on guitar. i thought chris botti was a smooth jazz cheeseball. am i wrong? maybe he sold out after this gig? As far as I know. I saw that band at the Knitting Factory. Quote
Parkertown Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 (edited) Music like Chris Botti's makes me wonder: How can a jazz player make music these days that's not avant garde/free but still not be considered smooth jazz? At what point does it become "smooth jazz"? How can jazz be made nowadays that is soft and contemplative without being "smooth"? Is what Sting is doing considered smooth jazz? Or adult contemporary on a jazz tip? -------------------------------------------------------------- Another example: Beyond The Missouri Sky by Charlie Haden & Pat Metheny Is this smooth jazz? If not, why? P.S. Looking at the word "smooth" too long makes it look like a weird word!?!? Or is that just me? Edited September 8, 2004 by Parkertown Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 Me thinks it's all about gettin' the chicks! Quote
sheldonm Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 Man with the Golden Arm said: Me thinks it's all about gettin' the chicks! Quote
Chrome Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 Parkertown said: Music like Chris Botti's makes me wonder: How can a jazz player make music these days that's not avant garde/free but still not be considered smooth jazz? At what point does it become "smooth jazz"? How can jazz be made nowadays that is soft and contemplative without being "smooth"? Is what Sting is doing considered smooth jazz? Or adult contemporary on a jazz tip? -------------------------------------------------------------- Another example: Beyond The Missouri Sky by Charlie Haden & Pat Metheny Is this smooth jazz? If not, why? P.S. Looking at the word "smooth" too long makes it look like a weird word!?!? Or is that just me? Good question ... reminds me of something that happened to me recently ... I had just picked up Stan Getz' Captain Marvel and was playing it in the van, and my wife says to me (in a surprised way bc she knows I don't like smooth jazz) "Do you have the smooth jazz station on?" After thinking about it for a while, I've come up with a new definition: Smooth jazz = any melodic jazz that I don't like! Quote
Free For All Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 Chris Botti can play, there's no question about that. It's just disappointing he's wasting his talent on smooth BS. IMHO. Quote
JSngry Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 Man with the Golden Arm said: Me thinks it's all about gettin' the chicks! Close. It's all about gettin' the checks. Quote
catesta Posted September 8, 2004 Report Posted September 8, 2004 JSngry said: Man with the Golden Arm said: Me thinks it's all about gettin' the chicks! Close. It's all about gettin' the checks. Checks or Chex? Quote
chris olivarez Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 Smooth Jazz to me is an extension of mainstream pop music. All hooks and formula. The sizzle without the steak. Or better yet jazz for people who don't like jazz. I think Eddie Harris said it best when he said "Our music is not necessarily for your bumping and jawing our music is designed to make you think so if you aren't into thinking I thought I better warn you before we dropped that shit on you". Quote
jazzbo Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 So Chrome. . . does that mean you like the Getz or not? (Concerned with the important issues, aren't I?) Quote
BruceH Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 Chrome said: After thinking about it for a while, I've come up with a new definition: Smooth jazz = any melodic jazz that I don't like! You've got it! Quote
Bright Moments Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 and where does that put george benson. . . . . . .? Quote
Chrome Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 (edited) jazzbo said: So Chrome. . . does that mean you like the Getz or not? (Concerned with the important issues, aren't I?) Thumbs up, Jazzbo! I thought the electric backing helped him kind of stretch what he was doing, if you know what I mean. Edited September 9, 2004 by Chrome Quote
jazzbo Posted September 9, 2004 Report Posted September 9, 2004 I do know what you mean. And it doesn't hurt having Tony building a little bonfire below your hindquarters either! Quote
Bright Moments Posted January 19, 2014 Report Posted January 19, 2014 Saw Botti last night with a fabulous band including Caroline Campbell (violin), Sy Smith ( vocals) and Geoffrey Keezer (piano) - excellent!!!! Quote
marcello Posted January 19, 2014 Report Posted January 19, 2014 Wasn't Henry Hey included also on keyboards? I thought that was strange, but he posted a photo on his Facebook page showing Keezer on stage in Miami. Quote
Guy Berger Posted January 19, 2014 Report Posted January 19, 2014 Botti is very good on the the BLUE album. Quote
Bright Moments Posted January 19, 2014 Report Posted January 19, 2014 On 1/19/2014 at 2:41 AM, marcello said: Wasn't Henry Hey included also on keyboards? I thought that was strange, but he posted a photo on his Facebook page showing Keezer on stage in Miami. Yes Henry was in the back on keyboards - not featured very much , but steady and reliable. Keizer was a monster on piano! Quote
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