Count Basie Band early 1960...

[Hardbopjazz]

Can anyone tell me if they know, who was in the band? I have a recording from March 1960 live in Paris 3/2/1960. It doesn't list who's in the band.

Edited August 10, 2004 by Hardbopjazz

[John Tapscott]

From the Mosaic Roulette Studio set

for the recording on June 7, 1960

Sonny Cohn, Thad Jones, Snooky Young, Joe Newman - trumpets

Henry Coker, Al Grey Benny Powell - trombones

Marshall Royal (as, cl), Frank Wess (as, ts, fl), Billy Mitchell (ts, cl), Frank Foster (ts), Charlie Fowlkes (bari, bcl, fl), Basie (p), Freddie Green (g) , Eddie Jones (b), Sonny Payne (d), Joe Williams (vcl)

On the previous studio date Sept. 24, 1959, the only difference is John Anderson instead of Sonny Cohn on tpt.

The personnel on your recording is probably the same as the June 7, 1960 date. A great band!

[Spontooneous]

But personnel may vary slightly because somebody might have had passport trouble.

I'm thinking of Sonny Payne, who had to miss at least one European tour.

(A veteran drummer friend of mine once played a one-nighter in the Basie band on very short notice, because Sonny was in jail.)

[Hardbopjazz]

Thanks. This helps. It has to be the 6-7-60 line up. They were touring Europe at that time

[brownie]

This is the lineup for the Basie band during its March 1960 European tour.

March 29, 1960 -- Palais de Chaillot, Paris -- Count Basie -- Live Session -- Sonny Cohn, Joe Newman, Snooky Young (tp) Henry Coker, Al Grey, Benny Powell (tb) Marshal Royal (cl,as) Frank Wess (as,ts,fl) Billy Mitchell (ts) Charlie Fowlkes (bs) Count Basie (p) Freddie Green (g) Eddie Jones (b) Sonny Payne (ds) Joe Williams (vcl)

Information courtesy of the upcoming Basie website that various people from Organissimo (and others) are now working on under the direction of deus62

[Michael Fitzgerald]

They toured with only four saxophones and three trumpets? I don't think so.

I believe Frank Foster and Thad Jones ought to be added.

I think the problem could stem from the Lord discography which only lists Foster and Jones as arrangers. Bruyninckx discography does list Foster on tenor and Jones on trumpet on the March 29, 1960 concert.

And remember folks, this is the NEW IMPROVED Lord discography, the one that has had over 10 years of waiting for revisions. Ain't nobody minding the store, I'm afraid.

So in the end, Mr. Tapscott had the correct info first.

Mike

[brownie]

The ever vigilant Michael Fitzgerald is right, once more. Lifted the personnel from an early non-corrected draft of the discography which was Lord-based

[Michael Fitzgerald]

I'm sure the error would have been caught at some point - I have faith that the Basie project folks are actually looking at their stuff (or will be before it goes public).

I can't say the same about Lord. Basie is an artist he specifically brags about being so new and improved in the latest CD-ROM version. "It also contains the most complete and up-to-date leader discography of Count Basie." - are his exact words. So obviously someone was supposedly spending a lot of time working on the Basie section.

Sigh.

Mike

[Clunky]

I recently got the Basie "Kansas City Suite" LP , it's a Forum pressing which I believe was a grocery store off shoot of Roulette. No personnel or date of recording is given. I presume this was on the Mosaic set.

Anyone prepared to post the info as AMG wasn't much help.?

[king ubu]

I'm sure the error would have been caught at some point - I have faith that the Basie project folks are actually looking at their stuff (or will be before it goes public).

I can't say the same about Lord. Basie is an artist he specifically brags about being so new and improved in the latest CD-ROM version. "It also contains the most complete and up-to-date leader discography of Count Basie." - are his exact words. So obviously someone was supposedly spending a lot of time working on the Basie section.

Sigh.

Mike

big laughs from the Basie website folks... we try to do it better, of course!

[king ubu]

I recently got the Basie "Kansas City Suite" LP , it's a Forum pressing which I believe was a grocery store off shoot of Roulette. No personnel or date of recording is given. I presume this was on the Mosaic set.

Anyone prepared to post the info as AMG wasn't much help.?

We'll have it on our site soon - be a little patient (or drop me a mail and I'll look it up tonight).

ubu

[John Tapscott]

I recently got the Basie "Kansas City Suite" LP , it's a Forum pressing which I believe was a grocery store off shoot of Roulette. No personnel or date of recording is given. I presume this was on the Mosaic set.

Anyone prepared to post the info as AMG wasn't much help.?

Kansas City Suite - L.A. September 6 & 7, 1960

Personnel identical to the June 7, 1960 date posted above.

From the Mosaic set discography.

[Hardbopjazz]

They toured with only four saxophones and three trumpets? I don't think so.

I believe Frank Foster and Thad Jones ought to be added.

I think the problem could stem from the Lord discography which only lists Foster and Jones as arrangers. Bruyninckx discography does list Foster on tenor and Jones on trumpet on the March 29, 1960 concert.

And remember folks, this is the NEW IMPROVED Lord discography, the one that has had over 10 years of waiting for revisions. Ain't nobody minding the store, I'm afraid.

So in the end, Mr. Tapscott had the correct info first.

Mike

Thanks Mike, I will add that info to my paper work.

[neveronfriday]

Unfortunately, some entries were published in this thread prematurely (from an old version), but the Count Basie Team has almost completed the discography.

It has been checked, double-checked, and triple checked, and it currently contains 4540 entries. Some sessions, which have not been identified properly yet, are not included (yet). That's another 40 entries or so.

Lord ... has been checked against Sheridan ... has been checked against personal files ... has been checked against private collections.

We believe it will be the most accurate one available, and we will make it available in various formats.

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how to display this info online, because the program of choice for our upcoming Count Basie Site cannot, unfortunately, "loop" through the entries to pull out all the tunes for each session.

Well, wait and see what we can come up with.

Cheers!

P.S.: Although tons of people have put in an incredible amount of work (and at the moment, Agustin is still slaving away at it), big thanks go to John Couwenberg who put in more nights than anyone else on the team, including the last hours until the sun rose up before he went on a well-deserved holiday.

I don't want to mention any other names as yet, but there are many. You will find those listed on the site when it goes public.

[Clunky]

Kansas City Suite - L.A. September 6 & 7, 1960

Personnel identical to the June 7, 1960 date posted above.

From the Mosaic set discography.

thanks