chuckyd4 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Posted July 31, 2004 I have a quick question I was hoping someone could help me out with. Does anyone have a typed out version of the track listing for the Thad Jones-Mel Lewis Solid State Mosaic box that they could quickly post here. Can't seem to find it on the "new and improved (?!?!)" AMG, and I'm curious as to what order everything on the box is in. Thanks in advance. Quote
FrancoisD Posted July 31, 2004 Report Posted July 31, 2004 (edited) (A) Thad Jones (flg), Danny Stiles, Bill Berry, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tp), Bob Brookmeyer, Jack Rains, Tom McIntosh (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl, cl, b cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fl, cl), Joe Farrell (ts, fl, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl, b cl),Pepper Adams (bari), Hank Jones (p), Sam Herman (g), Richard Davis (B) Mel Lewis (d). A&R Studios, NYC, May 4, 1966 ABC Blues SS-18003 Kids Are Pretty People (tk 11) unissued The Waltz You Swang For Me rejected _______________________________________________________________ (B) same as (A) A&R Studios, NYC, May 5, 1966 Don’t Ever Leave Me (tk 12) SS-18003 Once Around (tk 8) SS-18003 ___________________________________________________________________ © same as(A) A&R Studios, NYC, May 6, 1966 Three And One (tk 7) SS-18003 Balanced Scales = Justice (tk 4) SS-18003 Willow Weep For Me (tk 13) SS-18003 Mean What You Say (tk 6) SS-18003, BNLA 392-2 The Waltz You Swang For Me rejected ____________________________________________________________________ (D) Thad Jones (flg), Snooky Young, Marvin Stamm, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tp), Bob Brookmeyer, Tom McIntosh, Garnett Brown (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Phil Woods (as, cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fl), Joe Farrell (ts, fl, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams (bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Sam Herman (g, shaker), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). A&R Studios, NYC, January 24, 1967 Sophisticated Lady (tk 6) 45-SD-2506 Willow Tree (tk 3) unissued Hawaii (tk 11) 45-SD-2506 DISC II ____________________________________________________________________ (E) Thad Jones (cor), Snooky Young, Bill Berry, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams, Marvin Stamm (tp), Bob Brookmeyer, Tom McIntosh, Garnett Brown (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl, cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fl), Joe Farrell (ts, fl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams (bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Sam Herman (g, shaker), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). Live at the Village Vanguard, April 28, 1967 The Little Pixie SS-18016, BNLA 392-2* A- That’s Freedom SS-18016* The Second Race * Willow Tree SS-18016* Quietude * Bachafillen SS-18016* Lover Man unissued Mornin’ Reverend unissued DISC III Samba Con Getchu SS-18016 Willow Tree (alt tk) unissued Don’t Git Sassy SS-18016 *Rough mixes of these performances were issued on an unauthorized CD set on he LRC label. DON’T GIT SASSY was mistitled GETTING SASSY. BACHAFILLEN (mistitled BACHA FEELIN’ on all previous issues) has an additional trombone chorus that was edited out of the actual master. The master tapes of those edits, which were made by Thad and Mel, no longer exist and are not included here. Note : Solid State also recorded on April 27, 1967, but all music from that night was rejected. The exact recording order of these performances is not known. ___________________________________________________________________ (F) Thad Jones (flg) Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tp), Garnett Brown, Jimmy Cleveland, Jimmy Knepper (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fl), Seldon Powell (ts, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams (bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). Live at the Village Vanguard, October 17, 1968 Say It Softly SS-18048 Mornin’ Reverend SS-18048, BNLA 392-2 Kids Are Pretty People SS-18048 The Second Race SS-18048 Session continues on Disc IV DISC IV ___________________________________________________________________ (F) Thad Jones (flg) Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tp), Garnett Brown, Jimmy Cleveland, Jimmy Knepper (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fl), Seldon Powell (ts, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams (bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). Live at the Village Vanguard, October 17, 1968 (cont.) St. Louis Blues SS-18048 The Waltz You Swang For Me SS-18048 Note : the exact recording order for these performances is unknown. No outtakes exist from this session. ____________________________________________________________________ (-) same or similar to (G) A&R Studios, NYC, May 28, 1969 Central Park North rejected Tow Away Zone rejected ___________________________________________________________________ (G) Thad Jones (flg), Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tp), Eddie Bert, Benny Powell, Jimmy Knepper (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl), Jerry Dodgion (as, cl), Joe Farrell (ts, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Joe Temperley (bari, b cl), Roland Hanna (p), Barry Galbraith, Sam Brown (g), Richard Davis (b, el B), Mel Lewis (d). A&R Studios, NYC, June 17, 1969 Tow Away Zone rejected Central Park North (tk 3) SS-18058, BNLA 392-2 Jive Samba (tk 5) 45-SD-2533, SS-18058,BNLA 392-2 ___________________________________________________________________ (H) same as (G) A&R Studios, NYC, June 18, 1969 Quietude (tk 8) -1 SS-18058 Big Dipper (tk 5) -1 SS-18058, BNLA 392-2 Tow Away Zone (tk 3) 45-SD 2533, SS-18058 The Groove Merchant (tk 9) SS-18058, BNLA 392-2 -1 : omit Sam Brown DISC V ___________________________________________________________________ (I) Thad Jones (flg), Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Al Porcino, Marvin Stamm (tp), Eddie Bert, Benny Powell, Jimmy Knepper (tb), Cliff Heather (b tb), Jimmy Buffington, Earl Chapin, Dick Berg, Julius Watkins (fr h), Howard Johnson (tuba), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fl), Jerry Dodgion (as, cl, fl), Billy Harper (ts, fl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl, fl), Richie Kamuca (bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p, el p), Richard Davis (b, el B), Mel Lewis (d). A&R Studios, NYC, January 20, 1970 Consummation (tk 14) BST-84346 Dedication (tk 8) BST-84346 ____________________________________________________________________ (J) same as (I), except omit French horns and tuba : A&R Studios, NYC, January 21, 1970 Tiptoe (tk 11) BST-84346, BNLA392-2 It Only Happens Every Time (tk 7) BST-84346 ___________________________________________________________________ (K) same as (J) except Joe Farrell replaces Richie Kamuca (bari). A&R Studios, NYC, January 28, 1970 Fingers (tk 8) BST-84346 Ahunk Ahunk rejected ___________________________________________________________________ (L) same as (K) except Pepper Adams replaces Joe Farrell (bari) and add David Spinozza (g). A&R Studios, NYC, May 25, 1970 Us (tk 18) BST-84346 A Child Is Born (tk 1) (omit g) BST-84346, BNLA 392-2 Ahunk Ahunk BST-84346 Edited July 31, 2004 by FrancoisD Quote
chuckyd4 Posted July 31, 2004 Author Report Posted July 31, 2004 Thank you Francois!!!!! I hope you already had that typed out and didnt sit down and do it for me. I really appreciate it, in any case. Quote
DIS Posted August 1, 2004 Report Posted August 1, 2004 This information is direct from Mosaic, is it not? Do you have the actual link? Mosaic should also give additional information. I'd like to find out who arranged these selections. I know that Thad did most of them, but I think that some were arranged by Bob Brookmeyer and perhaps others. I'd also like to know the album titles on which the selections originally appeared. Quote
bary01 Posted August 1, 2004 Report Posted August 1, 2004 more details The Complete Solid State Recordings of the Thad Jones / Mel Lewis Orchestra (#151) Discography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc One: 01. ABC Blues (A) 12:53 (Bob Brookmeyer) 02. Kids Are Pretty People (A) 5:44 (Thad Jones) 03. Don't Ever Leave Me (B) 4:33 (Thad Jones) 04. Once Around (B) 5:24 (Thad Jones) 05. Three And One © 5:45 (Thad Jones) 06. Balanced Scales = Justice © 4:58 (Tom McIntosh) 07. Willow Weep For Me © 5:34 (Ann Bonnell) 08. Mean What You Say © 5:26 (Thad Jones) 09. Sophisticated Lady (D) 2:51 (Ellington-Mills-Pansh) 10. Willow Tree (D) 3:52 (E Wallem A. Bazal) 11. Hawaii (D) 2:27 (M.David-E. Bernstein) Disc Two: 01. The Little Pixie (F) 10:30 (Thad Jones) 02. A-That's Freedom (F) 7:00 (Hank Jones) 03. The Second Race (F) 9:36 (Thad Jones) 04. Willow Tree (E) 5:02 (F. Wailer-A. Razal) 05. Quietude (F) 4:44 (Thad Jones 06. Bachafillen (E) 7:15 (Garnett Brown) 07. Lover Man (F) 4:50 (Davis-Ramirez-Shennan) 08. Mornin' Reverend (F) 4:00 (Thad Jones) Disc Three: 01. Samha Con Getchu (F) 12:14 (Bob Brookmeyer) 02. Willow Tree (alt tk) (F) 4:46 (F. WallemA. Razaf) 03. Don't Git Sassy (F) 7:19 (Thad Jones) 04. Say It Softly (F) 6:35 (Thad Jones) 05. Momin' Reverend (F) 4:51 (Thad Jones) 06. Kids Are Pretty People (F) 6:04 (Thad Jones) 07. The Second Race (F) 7:17 (Thad Jones) Disc Four: 01. St. Louis Blues (F) 12:38 (W C. Handy) 02. The Waltz You Swang For Me (F) 5:27 (Thad Jones) 03. Central Park North © 9:14 (Thad Jones) 04. Jive Samba © 8:52 (Nat Adderley) 05. Quietude (H) 4:03 (Thad Jones) 06. Big Dipper (H) 5:51 (Thad Jones) 07. Tow Away Zone (H) 4:28 (Thad Jones) 08. The Groove Merchant (H) 5:09 (Jerome Richardson) Disc Five: 01. Consummation (I) 5:08 (Thad Jones) 02. Dedication (I) 5:11 (Thad Jones) 03. Tiptoe (J) 6:39 (Thad Jones) 04. It Only Happens Every Time (J) 3:05 (Thad Jones) 05. Fingers (K) 10:36 (Thad Jones) 06. Us (L) 3:34 (Thad Jones) 07. A Child Is Born (L) 4:06 (Thad Jones) 08. Ahunk Ahunk (L) 7:55 (Thad Jones) Note: All arrangements are by Thad Jones with the following exceptions: Bob Brookmeyer , Tom McIntosh and Garnett Brown arranged their compositions. Brown also arranged SOPHISTICATED LADY and Brookmeyer arranged Willow Weep for Me , Willow Tree and ST. LOUIS blues. Joe Farrell arranged LOVER MAN. Thanks to Bill Kirchner's diligent research of the original scores, we've been able to identify the exact reed doublings for each session. Also trumpeters and trombonists are listed in the order of the chair they played, although they were known to switch parts with some frequency. Only U.S. issues are included in this discography. Rejected titles not included in the set are listed in italics. ________________________________________________________________________________ (A) Thad Jones (fig), Danny Stiles, Bill Berry, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tps), Bob Brookmeyer, Jack Rains, Tom McIntosh (tbs), Cliff Heather (btb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fi, cI, b cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fi, cl), Joe Farrell (ts, II, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl, b cl), Pepper Adams diari), Hank Jones (p), Sam Herman (g), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). A & R Studios, NYC, May 4, 1966 ABC Blues (tk 4) SS-18003 Kids Are Pretty People (tk 11) unissued The Waltz You Swang For Me rejected _____________________________________________________________________ (B) same as (A) A & R Studios, NYC, May 5, 1966 Don't Ever Leave Me (tk T2) SS-18003 Once Around (tk 8) SS-18003 ____________________________________________________________________ © same as (A) A & R Studios, NYC, May 6, 1966 Three And One (tk 7) Balanced Scales Justice (tk 4) Willow Weep For Me (tk 13) Mean What You Say (tk 6) The Waltz You Swang For Me rejected ___________________________________________________________________ (D) Thad Jones (fig), Snooky Young, Marvin Stamm, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tps), Bob Brookmyer, Tom McIntosh, Carnett Brown (ths), Cliff Heather (b tb), Phil Woods (as, cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fi), Joe Farrell (ts, fi, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p),Sam Herman (g, shaker), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). A & R Studios, NYC, January 24, 1967 Sophisticated Lady (tk 6) 45-SD-2506 Willow Tree (tk 3) unissued Hawaii (tk Ti) 45-SD-2506 _______________________________________________________________ (E) Thad Jones (cor), Snooky Young, Bill Berry, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams, Marvin Stamm (tps), Bob Brookmeyer, Tom McIntosh, Carnett Brown (tbs), Cliff Heather di tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fi, cl), Jerry Dodgion (as, fi), Joe Farrell (ts, fi), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams bari, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Sam Herman (g, shaker), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). Live at The Village Vanguard, April 28, 1967 The Little Pixie A-That's Freedom The Second Race Willow Tree Quietude Bachafillen Lover Man unissued Momin' Reverend unissued Samba Con Getchu Willow Tree (alt tk) unissued Don't Git Sassy * *Rougb mixes of these performances were issued on an unauthorized CD set on the LRC label. DON'T CIT SASSY was mistitled GETTING SASSY. BACHAFILLEN (mistitled DACHA FEELIN' on all previous issues) has an additional trombone chorus that was edited out of the actual master. A-THAT'S FREEDOM has a full piano intro and extra trombone chorus that were edited out of the actual master. The master tapes of those edits, which were made by Thad and Mel, no longer exist and are not included here. note: Solid State also recorded on April 27, 1967, but all music from that night was rejected. The exact recording order of these performances is not known. _________________________________________________________________________ (F) Thad Jones (fig), Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tps),Carnett Brown, Jimmy Cleveland, Jimmy Knepper (tbs), Cliff Heather di th), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fi),Jerry Dodgion (as, fi), Seldon Powell (ts, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Pepper Adams (b, cl), Roland Hanna (p), Richard Davis (B), Mel Lewis (d). live at The Village Vanguard, October 17, 1968 Say It Softly Mornin' Reverend Kids Are Pretty People The Second Race St. Louis Blues The Waltz You Swang For Me note: The exact recording order of these performances is not known. No outtakes exist from this session. ____________________________________________________________________________ © Thad Jones (fig), Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Jimmy Nottingham, Richard Williams (tps),Eddie Bert, Benny Powell, Jimmy Knepper (tbs), Cliff Heather di tb), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fi),Jerry Dodgion (as, cl), Joe Farrell (ts, cl), Eddie Daniels (ts, cl), Joe Temperley (ba, b cl), Roland Hanna (p), Barry Calhraitb, Sam Brown (g), Richard DaYis di el B), Mel Lewis (d). A & R Studios, NYC, June 17, 1969 Tow Away Zone rejected Central Park North (tk 3) Jive Samba (tk 5) ____________________________________________________________________ (H) same as © A & R Studios, NYC, June 18, 1969 Quietude (tk 8) Big Dipper (tk 5) Tow Away Zone (tk 3) The Groove Merchant (tk 9) _____________________________________________________________________ (I) Thad Jones (fig), Snooky Young, Danny Moore, Al Porcino, Marvin Stamm (tps), Eddie Bert,Benny Powell, Jimmy Knepper (ths), Cliff Heather di tb), Jimmy Buffington, Earl Chapin, Dick Berg, Julius Watkins (Fr h), Howard Johnson (tuba), Jerome Richardson (ss, as, fi), Jerry Dodgion (as, cl, ft), Billy Harper (ts, ft), Eddie Daniels (ts, Cl, ft), Richie Kamuca (ban, cl), Roland Hanna (p, el p), Richard Davis (b, el B), Mel Lewis (d). A & R Studios, NYC, January 20, 1970 Consummation (tk 14) Dedication (tk 8) _______________________________________________________________________ (J) same as (I), except omit French horns and tuba: A & R Studios, NYC, January 21, 1970 Tiptoe (tk 11) it Only Happens Every Time (tk 7) ______________________________________________________________________ (K) same as (J) except Joe Farrell replaces Richie Kamuca (bari). A & R Studios, NYC, January 28, 1970 Fingers (tk 8) Ahunk Ahunk rejected ______________________________________________________________________ (L) same as (K) except Pepper Adams replaces Joe Farrell (bar) and add David Spinozza (g) A & R Studios, NYC, May 25, 1970 Us (tk 18) A Child Is Born (tk 1) (omit g) Ahunk Ahunk (tk 8) Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted August 1, 2004 Report Posted August 1, 2004 Seeing that last post made me get rid of the B-) smiley being b). It is now a B, then a -, then a ). That should make posts like these make more sense. Quote
DIS Posted August 2, 2004 Report Posted August 2, 2004 Bary01 - I very much appreciate the valuable information that you added, especially since I see that you had to type this information from the Mosaic insert. I was expecting only a link, but I suppose that Mosaic may have removed it at the point when the collection sold out. Merci beaucoup. DIS/Douglas Quote
bebopbob Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Now with Central Park North which I just bought and Consummation out on individual CDs, hopefully EMI/Blue Note will continue to issue the remainder of the Jones/Lewis Solid State recordings on CD. Like many, I missed out on the Mosaic. Quote
Shrdlu Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Seeing that last post made me get rid of the B-) smiley being b). It is now a B, then a -, then a ). That should make posts like these make more sense. More sense? Whatever does this post mean? Quote
Shrdlu Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Following in the tradition of the post asking for the contents of the "Straight No Filter" LP, which was answered by Jim, does anyone know the track order on the first Jones-Lewis LP? I used to have that LP, and the sequence on it worked really well. I have the Mosaic, but it's in chronological order. I remember that the LP ended with "ABC Blues", which made a great finale. Quote
bary01 Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 the track list side A 1 Once Around 2 Willow weep for me 3 Balanced scales=justice 4 Three in one side B 1 Mean what you say 2 Don't ever leave me 3 ABC blues Quote
Shrdlu Posted September 3, 2004 Report Posted September 3, 2004 Just made up a custom CDr of that album, and it was a great listen. For me, it's all I want from their output. I'm not a big fan of blaring big bands (don't even like 60s Basie), as a lot of them lack that spark that makes jazz interesting for me, but this album is special. There are several reasons for this. Mainly, it's a matter of who's on it: Thad (of course), Pepper Adams, Richard Davis (what a difference HE makes!), Mel (of course), Bob Brookmeyer and Hank Jones. All the arrangements and compositions are good, but the two by Brookmeyer are outstanding. They link this album with the Gerry Mulligan Concert Jazz Band nicely. In fact, the arrangement of "Willow, Weep For Me" was made for Mulligan, and you can spot that it was designed for that band's special clarinet and bass clarinet combo. That is not a favorite tune of mine, as it can get tedious, but Brookmeyer did a fine job of turning a sow's ear into a silk purse. The Mosaic notes claim that the Jones-Lewis band was superior to Mulligan's. Now that the new Mulligan Mosaic is to hand, as well as the other CDs of their work, I strongly disagree. I think Mulligan's band offers a much more interesting set of arrangements, solos and performances. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 Now with Central Park North which I just bought and Consummation out on individual CDs, hopefully EMI/Blue Note will continue to issue the remainder of the Jones/Lewis Solid State recordings on CD. Like many, I missed out on the Mosaic. Same here! Quote
Free For All Posted September 11, 2004 Report Posted September 11, 2004 The Thad/Mel was my first Mosaic. After hearing how much the sound was improved from the original reverb-drowned records I instantly became a Mosaic junkie! Quote
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