Soulstation1 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 a very sad day in laker-ville. next season it's gonna be the clippers vs heat in the nba finals. i want to see kobe take it too the daddy and the rim and kobe get his jaw jacked up man my teams are the lakers, browns and the tribe Quote
Noj Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 I was going to say "one of" but I think this was "The" worst trade in NBA history. All of Lakerland writhes in the agony of immediately becoming a team with no hope of winning the championship. We are sunk, Shaq was our heart and soul. It is definitely over. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Well Shaq wanted out basically from the moment the Pistons whooped his ass. LA could either trade him now or wait until next season when he's a free agent and they don't get shit. Besides, he's 32 years old and hasn't been keeping himself in shape. I don't think he'll have too much of an impact in the East. I expect the Heat to make the playoffs again, but they won't get any farther than they did this year. And might I add, the "dynasty" has been over for a couple years now. You Laker fans just couldn't admit it. Rubbin' it in, baby!!!! Quote
Tjazz Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Shaq goes back to Florida. He forgot he came to LA to get away from the fishbowl. He'll miss Hollywood and the stars. Does Kobe remember Pipen? Doesn't matter, he'll need the money for all the court costs. The mailman should go to the SPURS to win a championship. Quote
J Larsen Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 I don't know b3, Shaq is on the downside of his career for sure, but he can still dominate almost any center in the East. I mean, it's hard to even name a lot of the centers in the East! Quote
BERIGAN Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Thought this was a pretty good column on the subject of Shaq.... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ons/take/040714 Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 next season it's gonna be the clippers vs heat in the nba finals. Dang! Still no respect for the Pistons... With McDeyss, they are even stronger than before. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted July 17, 2004 Author Report Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) i still have no respect for the pistons, but they did kick the lakers' ass i'll give them that did 'sheed ever get a haircut and shave? now d-fish is gone to golden state.... with the daddy going to miami, i'm saving $$$$$, now i only have to go the phoenix once during the regular season shaq's wife shaunie could whoooop kobe's ass shaq should lose 20 lbs and get focused like in 2000, but how many more season's can we keep saying that???? maybe the mailman in miami? i must change my pick that the clippers would go to the finals next season i thought kobe was going to the clippers for some lame ass reason ss1 Edited July 17, 2004 by Soulstation1 Quote
Tjazz Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) Malone should go to the SPURS to win a championship. Payton - he's out of luck. He can join Charles Barkley. Let's see, will Shaq want to be remembered as a HEAT player or LAKER? 3 Championships or zero? Hall of Fame... Let's see where Shaq goes next year. (doesn't he have only 1 year left with the HEAT) Will his salary go UP or DOWN? I thought his TOE was feeling the pain. Maybe he can sign a long-term contract and then have his TOE injured. Edited July 17, 2004 by Tjazz Quote
JSngry Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 All of Lakerland writhes in the agony of immediately becoming a team with no hope of winning the championship. And the rest of America is laughing its ass off! Quote
paul secor Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 Hey - I see it as a chance to rebuild. The Lakers have done that a number of times over the 40+ years that I've rooted for them. This is just one more time. Rebuilding and renewal can be a good thing. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 Hey - I see it as a chance to rebuild. The Lakers have done that a number of times over the 40+ years that I've rooted for them. This is just one more time. Rebuilding and renewal can be a good thing. Very true! I certainly wouldn't rule them out. Their front office is excellent and they'll build another good team. Brownies, Lakers....hasn't been a good year for SS1... Quote
JSngry Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 Used to love the Lakers back in the Kareem/Magic/Worthy/etc days. But this crew has been everything I don't like about celebrety sports. The sooner they rebuild into a team, the sooner I can go back to liking them. Quote
Edward Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 Used to love the Lakers back in the Kareem/Magic/Worthy/etc days. But this crew has been everything I don't like about celebrety sports. The sooner they rebuild into a team, the sooner I can go back to liking them. Now I certainly can respect that (as opposed to the rantings of one who does not have a favorite team, who does not know diddley-shit about basketball, and who is a Lakers-hater just for the sake of being one - I have met quite a few people like this.) I so miss the days when I could watch Magic, Kareem, Worthy and company play three or four times per week. Shaq has a bad work ethic, Kobe is arrogant, and they both want(ed) obscene amounts of money. Yes, I suppose it is natural to want whatever the market will bear, but both of these guys claim that they want to win and it is hard to do that when you have one or two players on a team making so much money. Moreover, to put things in perspective, players like Magic and Kareem never made nearly as much as Shaq and Kobe - the value of the U.S. dollar has not declined that much over the past 15 years. Of course, some of this has to do with players now sharing a larger portion of the profits than they used to, but I think that a few players have now completely lost their perspective. Money is not everything, especially not when you are already making millions of dollars per year for playing the game that you are supposed to love as well as who knows how many more millions in endorsement contracts. Shaq and Kobe's best chance of winning in the short-term was to stay together. Only time will tell how good/bad this trade was for the Lakers and Miami. Much depends on how well Shaq stays in shape. Since his contract is due to expire after next season, I can see him taking great pains to enjoy a banner season, but it is difficult to predict how he will perform a few years down the line. I agree that Malone should join the Spurs if he wants to win a championship. Joining Miami would also improve his chances, but not nearly as much. It should be interesting to watch a Spurs-Pistons final next June. Quote
AmirBagachelles Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 As a Mets fan, I know how awful it feels when a great player is traded away (see Seaver, Dykstra, we won't get into the Nolan Ryan thing). In this case though, Shaq wanted to go if Kobe stayed, so what is the crying about? The Lakers played the percentage going with the younger player, and the Bulls and Jordan showed what can be done with an ultrasuperstar and B+ centers. I think the Heat can rock. I know Pat Riley will wish he were back on the sidelines, but Van Gundy is intense about defense too, and I don't think NBA coaches contribute a whole lot to offense. Shaq will love Miami, the Caribbean flavor makes it a much more fun environment than L.A. too, in my snotty opinion. Quote
Edward Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 I forgot to add that Phil Jackson was not exactly an angel. Yes, he did guide Shaq and Kobe to three NBA Championships (something they had been unable to do together before Jackson's arrival), but a reliable source inside the Lakers claims that Jackson wanted a ridiculous amount of control when he first arrived in Los Angeles (for instance, he wanted both Chick Hearn and Lawrence Tanter, the long-time Lakers public address announcer, replaced). Apparently, Dr. Buss drew the line. Yes, I know that this is only hearsay, but I am positive that Phil Jackson had everything to do with Jerry West's departure. Mitch Kupchak has been left trying to fill the shoes of someone who was a giant both on and off of the court. Quote
jack Posted July 18, 2004 Report Posted July 18, 2004 Now maybe the Queens have a chance at a championship!! Quote
Soulstation1 Posted July 19, 2004 Author Report Posted July 19, 2004 now floppy is comin' back to la??? i can't take this shit ......................... ss1 Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted July 19, 2004 Report Posted July 19, 2004 Ha! It's your worst nightmare. Watch C-Webb come to LA, too! Quote
Soulstation1 Posted July 20, 2004 Author Report Posted July 20, 2004 would anyone want to be floppy the night the daddy returns to the staples center? at least a fif-tee spot for shaq fu ss1 Quote
doubleM Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 Sure SS1, I'll "be floppy". You set it up! Quote
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