Hardbopjazz Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 When I ordered the Larry Young set back in 1996 or 97, I ordered it with a friend. His set was a good 300 numbers higher then mine. I don't think there was a rush on the set, but can't fingure out why there was a big gap in the numbering. Here are my numbers. Larry Young- is #2009 Stanley Turrentine is #1418 Donald Byrd is #995 Joe Pass is #1338 JJ Johnson is 4950 Blue Mitchell is #3744 Lou Donaldson is #781 Andrew Hill is #3094 Jackie McLean- Don't know, found it a second hand store. Just the dics. Paid $40. Sonny Stitt and Elvin Jones- Just orded last night, don't know yet. Quote
Dan Gould Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I thought it had been established that they do not ship sets sequentially, its whatever box gets pulled when they receive the order. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I have a few that are "XX" (they were promotional in nature, they weren't numbered sets). A poster here helped me immensely by pointing out that I could consider those "Number 20"! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I was amused when I noticed my copy of Mosaic Select 6 (John Patton) is Set No. 0006. Quote
JohnS Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 My Brookmeyer select is 0008, my Moncur 0041. Just got the Kenton Presents, that's 3413. Quote
Brad Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I've got too many to be able to figure it out although I do have a reviewer's copy or promotional one that I got through ebay that has the area for the number xxxed, with the the promotional identification. Quote
Leeway Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I thought it had been established that they do not ship sets sequentially, its whatever box gets pulled when they receive the order. That seems like a heckuva system if you're right. You would think the run of boxes to be shipped is in some kind of order, numerical seemingly the most sensible. What point would there be in grabbing boxes from all over stock? Next thing we'll find out is that they write any old number in the booklet just for the helluva it. Wouldn't they HAVE to have the boxes in sequence to ensure the numbering is correct? It seems that when one of the box sets in "Last Chance," reports on the Mosaic thread usually indicate that buyers are, in fact, getting boxes in close numerical order. Quote
wesbed Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 I thought it had been established that they do not ship sets sequentially, its whatever box gets pulled when they receive the order. This may be true. However, I wonder why, if Mosaic doesn't ship in sequence, that when a new set becomes available, and people from this forum pre-order the set, it seems like they always receive low-numbered sets. When I order a set just before it goes OOP, I always receive a high-numbered set. Mosaic may not ship in an EXACT sequence but there is SOME patten of lower-to-higher numbers being followed. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 As someone on the bottom of this game, I might be able to give something that looks like insight. As a "mom and pop" operation, I can control the numbers - the next AE box sold will be #2223. There are a few higher numbers gone since some people ordered their sets based on their address or whatever and I obliged. A company as large as Mosaic probably send around 1000 booklets to the plant and received a packaged product in random order. When they repress, they send numbers 1001- 1300. You takes your chances. Quote
Sundog Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Re: Out of Sequence Numbering Maybe Mosaic doesn't want the general public to know exactly how many sets have been sold at any given time? Quote
wolff Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 (edited) Vinyl: Herbie Nichols: no number Bud Powell: no number Mingus/Candid: 2750 Tina Brooks: 4925 Mulligan/Baker: 3483 Parlan: 689 Thad Jones: 3070 Chaloff: 2527 Don Cherry: 1786 Mingus/CBS: 1964 Hodges 51-55: 1926 Desmond/Hall: no number I don't need no stinking numbers! Why no numbers, if I did care? Edited July 15, 2004 by wolff Quote
marcoliv Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 so how they control which numbers they already used? Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Posted July 15, 2004 so how they control which numbers they already used? They must write them down somewhere. Quote
brownie Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Some vinyl sets: - Albert Ammons/Lewis/Johnson 3040 - Art Pepper 2349, - Tina Brooks 1962, - Port of Harlem 3730, - Edmond Hall/Johnson/Dickenson 1899, - Ike Quebec/John Hardee 1771, - Gerry Mulligan/Chet Baker 3056, - Johnny Hodges 1951/1955 0428, - Shorty Rogers 0512, - Freddie Redd 0721, - Phil Woods 0825, - Thad Jones/Mel Lewis 1987, - Miles Davis/Gil Evans 1200, - Duke Ellington Capitol 1681, among the unnumbered vinyls: - Herbie Nichols, - Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton, - Chet Baker PJ studio, - Chet Baker PJ live, - Buddy de Franco/Sonny Clark, - Paul Desmond/Jim Hall, - Art Hodes, among the CD sets: - Four Freshmen 2067, - Jack Teagarden Roulette 1517, - Stuff Smith 2195, - Stan Kenton Presents 2951, - Johnny Hodges 1956/1961 3191 - among the unnumbered CDs: - Gerry Mulligan CJB etc... Quote
marcoliv Posted July 16, 2004 Report Posted July 16, 2004 and what if two of us had the same set with the same number? Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 16, 2004 Author Report Posted July 16, 2004 and what if two of us had the same set with the same number? Then there must be a mistake somehow. The set number are hand written, so the human error factor does exist. Quote
ajf67 Posted July 16, 2004 Report Posted July 16, 2004 There are a few higher numbers gone since some people ordered their sets based on their address or whatever and I obliged Do people really do this Chuck? I do many things that make people go but ordering my boxed sets and asking for a specific number isn't one of them... Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 17, 2004 Author Report Posted July 17, 2004 Got my Elvin Jones and Duke Pearson today Jones 2171 Pearson 1592 Quote
Jazzmoose Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 and what if two of us had the same set with the same number? Obviously a duel to the death. "This number ain't big enough for the both of us!" Quote
Tjazz Posted July 17, 2004 Report Posted July 17, 2004 As someone on the bottom of this game, I might be able to give something that looks like insight. As a "mom and pop" operation, I can control the numbers - the next AE box sold will be #2223. There are a few higher numbers gone since some people ordered their sets based on their address or whatever and I obliged. I'll have to ask for specific # next time. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 FWIW Morgan / Shorter - 1896 TKM - 4472 Mitchell - 3735 Shank - 2920 Fuller - 4254 Rivers - 4867 Morgan - 4827 Mobley - 3030 Ventura / Phillips - 1935 Giuffre - 3457 Shaw - 4863 Thad Jones - 3643 Patton - 742 Blakey - No #, but i have the set, sans original cd case covers Hamilton - No #, missing the second disc ss1 Quote
LAL Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Mosaic should emboss the numbering of the first and last 25 sets in gold ink so as to make them highly desirable to 'collectors'. Quote
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