A Jazz Crusaders Mosaic!!!

[Bol]

I hope they add Jim Hall's 2 trio albums for Pacific Jazz: "Jazz Guitar" and "Good Friday Blues".

[sjarrell]

THE LAST SET (PJ 37) contained the almost the same Twardzik tracks as 1212 (the alt take of "a crutch for the crab" was also first issued on PJ 37), and was released around 1962 I believe, not 1955.  Perhaps AMG made a mistake?     

On the last Japanese reissue of Trio, the alternate take of "Crutch" was eliminated as it turns out there was no alternate take. The US CD had the master take of "Crutch" on twice.

[mikeweil]

1) I doubt So Danco Samba will be part of the set, as it has Fischer playing organ and is in a different style.

2) There seems to be enough material on Pacific Jazz for a 3-CD Select without including the Jimmy Rowles Liberty LP, which was a Nocturne session and is available as part of the Fresh Sound Nocturne box set. I had a Japanese Liberty CD which sounded bad with a lot of scratches like it was dubbed from a non-mint LP.

- The Freeman/Twardzik is a 67:09 CD, done by Cuscuna in 1989. The two Fischer LPs are between 80 and 90 minutes of music. The other Freeman and Rowles material may fill up the third CD - the Rowles trios could have been recorded at the occasion of some sessions were he was booked as sidemen; Richard Bock did that quite frequently.

The two Rowles tracks I found in Bruyninckx certainly look like that:

Rowles with Al Hendrickson, Joe Mondragon and Nick Fatool on a September 13, 1956 session playing "We'll be together again";

Rowles with Ben Tucker and Mel Lewis from a December 11, 1956 session playing "Sonny Speaks".

Anyone knows which sessions with Rowles were recorded on these dates?

[mikeweil]

On the last Japanese reissue of Trio, the alternate take of "Crutch" was eliminated as it turns out there was no alternate take. The US CD had the master take of "Crutch" on twice.

There were two takes on the US 1989 CD, but the intro on the orginally issued take was damaged by tape stretch, so they edited on the intro of the second take.

[brownie]

December 11, 1956 - Sonny Speaks - was the second session of the 'Just Friends' PJ album by Bill Perkins with Art Pepper (first session had Richie Kamuca sted of Pepper).

Don't know about the September 1956 session with Nick Fatool.

[jazzbo]

Those September 13, 1956 sides are probably from/recorded around the Hoagy Carmichael sessions. . . .

Hoagy Carmichael (voc), Don Fagerquist, Ray Linn, Jimmy Zito (tp), Harry Klee (fl), Art Pepper (as), Mort Friedman (ts), Marty Berman (bs), Jimmy Rowles (p), Al Hendrickson (g), Joe Mondragon (B), Nick Fatool (dms)

13 September 1956 - Forum Theater, Hollywood

* WINTER MOON PJ-1223 CP-32 5365

* ROCKIN' CHAIR PJ-1223 CP-32 5365

* SKYLARK PJ-1223 CP-32 5365

* BALLAD IN BLUE PJ-1223 CP-32 5365

Edited July 14, 2004 by jazzbo

[Late]

The Freeman/Twardzik is a 67:09 CD, done by Cuscuna in 1989.

... and now, in its Japanese incarnation (with even more bonus tracks from Freeman sessions), it's 71:42! 21 tracks in all. And, the "Crutch for the Crab" track now has the entire introduction (dubbed from LP as the original master tape is evidently stretched beyond repair).

Edited July 14, 2004 by Late

[Daniel A]

I hope they add Jim Hall's 2 trio albums for Pacific Jazz: "Jazz Guitar" and "Good Friday Blues".

It's said that the original master tape of Jazz Guitar is edited beyond rescue.

[J.A.W.]

It's said that the original master tape of Jazz Guitar is edited beyond rescue.

That seems to be true. Wasn't the most recent CD reissue dubbed from vinyl?

[Daniel A]

It's said that the original master tape of Jazz Guitar is edited beyond rescue.

That seems to be true. Wasn't the most recent CD reissue dubbed from vinyl?

According to some of the posts in this thread from our excellent Discography forum ( ):

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4639

it appears that both the US and Japanese CD issues featured edited tracks.

[danasgoodstuff]

No, I believe the 1st Jim Hall was (only? or are there more than one version on CD?) on CD in it's edited (but undubbed) incarnation (perhaps some kind soul could link to the previous discussion of this tawdry tale).

[brownie]

The 1988 copy of the Pacific Jazz/Capitol CD 'Jazz Guitar' by the Jim Hall Trio has the following note:

'All selections are monaural. #3 originally issued on Pacific JazzJWC 507. #11 originally issued on JWC 506. All other titles originally issued on PJ1227. Discographical note: Pacific Jazz PJ 1227 also included 'This Is Always' but the master tape for that selection has been lost. Further the first pressings of PJ1227 included longer versions of #1, 2, 5, 6, 9 and 10. The portions of these performances that were edited out cannot be found'.

Track list:

1 Stompin' at the Savoy 4:01

2 Things ain't what they used to be 4:41

3 Things ain't what they used to be (alternate track) 5:44

4 Thanks for the memory 5:12

5 Tangerine 3:53

6Stella by starlight 3:07

7 9:20 special 5:41

8 Deep in a dream 4:32

9 Look for the silver lining 3:11

10 Seven come eleven 3:50

11 Too close for comfort4:23

[GA Russell]

In regard to Twardzik, The Last Set also included The Girl From Greenland, a quartet number with Chet Baker which was released on the first Chet In Paris CD (which included an album's worth of Baker-Twardzik quartet material).

[Daniel A]

The 1988 copy of the Pacific Jazz/Capitol CD 'Jazz Guitar' by the Jim Hall Trio has the following note:

'All selections are monaural. #3 originally issued on Pacific JazzJWC 507. #11 originally issued on JWC 506. All other titles originally issued on PJ1227. Discographical note: Pacific Jazz PJ 1227 also included 'This Is Always' but the master tape for that selection has been lost. Further the first pressings of PJ1227 included longer versions of #1, 2, 5, 6, 9 and 10. The portions of these performances that were edited out cannot be found'.

Track list:

1 Stompin' at the Savoy 4:01

2 Things ain't what they used to be 4:41

3 Things ain't what they used to be (alternate track) 5:44

4 Thanks for the memory 5:12

5 Tangerine 3:53

6Stella by starlight 3:07

7 9:20 special 5:41

8 Deep in a dream 4:32

9 Look for the silver lining 3:11

10 Seven come eleven 3:50

11 Too close for comfort4:23

Just for comparsion, these are the (actual) track timinigs of my LP:

1 Stompin' at the Savoy 4:36

2 Things ain't what they used to be 5:45

3 This Is Always 2:47

4 Thanks for the memory 5:14

5 Tangerine 4:28

6 Stella by starlight 3:55

7 9:20 special 5:41

8 Deep in a dream 4:30

9 Look for the silver lining 5:03

10 Seven come eleven 4:28