The Grateful Dead Dark Star

[Tony Pusey]

Thanks for the information fellas, having trouble getting through to the shop at phillesh.com, but it is only a matter of time.

[Aggie87]

Thanks for the information fellas, having trouble getting through to the shop at phillesh.com, but it is only a matter of time.

Tony - there are some free shows that Lesh has made available through the phillesh.net site, at least one of which features Sco. I'm going to soak the one up that I downloaded, probably purchase the Warfield set, and then decide if I want to buy any of the downloads.

[Peter Johnson]

Got a preorder notice for Cow Palace 12/31/76-1/1/77. Anyone picking this up? It looks good, and is my favorite incarnations of the band. The bonus disc looks tasty as well.

Cow Palace Preorder

[jazzbo]

I preordered it.

I'm a sucker for official product of the 1965 to 1978 years.

[Aggie87]

I am also interested in this Lesh release. When I saw Sco a couple of weeks ago in Helsingborg he introduced an encore saying that it was his Grateful Dead tune......

Now, to me, this is a great band. I posted here a few weeks ago that I've been picking up a number of the "Instant Live" 3 CD releases that were recorded on the bands recent tour. Yes, Osby and Sco are definitely part of the band. The "Instant Live" CDs that I have with Sco find him amazingly well integrated into the band. The two-guitar jams that I've heard are great. Check out the Nashville show. Osby seemed to take a little longer to fit it but toward the end of the tour was really contributing.

And I think I actually like some of the "Instant Live" CDs better than the Warfield release (although that's fine too). I guess I'm a fan...

I'm really enjoying this Warfield release! Joan Osborne is a WONDERFUL singer for this material. And Scofield is very nice in this setting as well. Osby doesn't seem to fit in as well, at least at this particular show.

Going to have to hunt down that Nashville show I think. Thanks for the recommendation, trane123.

[orchiddoctor]

This link is for Lon!

http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=3121...dc86296592d3471

40 years ago--newly discovered reels from various 1966 locations.

MRs>DAT>3x>Delta DiO 2496>Soundforge 7.0>WAV>CD Wave Editor>FLAC

CD #1

Possibly 2/12/66 - 7"reel 1/2 track at 7.5 IPS:

Viola Lee Blues

Don't Ease Me In

Tastebud

"Longshoreman's Hall 1st Night" - 7" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:

Beat It On Down The Line

Schoolgirl>You Don't Love Me>Schoolgirl (original reel cuts)

Unlabeled Reel:

Pigpen Raps

Billy, Bobby, and Pigpen>

New Orleans (sort of an attempt)

Twist and Shout

CD #2

"Longshoreman's Hall 3rd Night" - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:

It's A Sin

Viola Lee Blues

Midnight Hour

Beat It On Down The Line

Blues Jam (with Jorma and Jack) Note: reel runs out before the end

Pauley Ballroom #2 (no date) - 10" Reel 1/2 Track @ 15IPS:

You Don't Have To Ask - Phil Talks About The Move To L.A.

Viola Lee Blues (some static at start of song)

I Know You Rider

Midnight Hour (plug pulled)

There are also a couple of short digi noises during the blues jam. The dates and locations

are as marked on the boxes of master reels. Let's leave it to the Deadhead historians to figure it all out for accuracy.

[jazzbo]

Happy Holidays Bill!

Awesome!

I posted this over at speedingarrow to see if they can magically make some MP3s appear. . .

[orchiddoctor]

Happy Holidays Bill!

Awesome!

I posted this over at speedingarrow to see if they can magically make some MP3s appear. . .

SHN is sooooo easy. Just download mkw Audio Compression Tool then download the music files. Double click the red SHN check icons. Then move the files onto the MKW window and they will change to wave.

Otherwise I'll burn you a copy.

[jazzbo]

I'm just not going to make the shn attempt after so much agony I've had in the past with my Macs and I in the attempts.

Looks like good stuff indeed!

[orchiddoctor]

I'm just not going to make the shn attempt after so much agony I've had in the past with my Macs and I in the attempts.

Looks like good stuff indeed!

Guess I'm just going to have to burn it for you.

[jazzbo]

Thanks, I won't turn it down!

I may see it turned into MP3 at speedingarrow though. . .there are precedents.

[AmirBagachelles]

There's some good posts by David Lemieux in the new tapers' corner on the new Dead.net. Check the week-by-week mentions of the vault's goodies. I note he likes that 11/30/80 show as much as I do. Also gives me hope of more to come from '70. Cheers, Dan

[Chalupa]

Let's just get it out of the way now. Nancy Pelosi is a Deadhead. "'Ms. Pelosi is a huge Dead fan,' her spokeswoman said. The Dead you say? Or perhaps it should say The Grateful Dead. The remaining members of the American band the Grateful Dead played tonight for the party celebrating the new re balancing of power and the installation of Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House. The live music concert touted as "on January 4th, Nancy Pelosi Presents" wound down about 10:30pm EST.

The "House Band", which featured three members of The Grateful Dead as well as members from the band Phish and The Allman Brothers Bandopened the show with a touching "End of the Innocence' by Bruce Hornsby followed by "Touch of Grey" by The Grateful Dead. Then Tony Bennet sang"The Best is Yet to Come" and "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". Near the end of the concert, Wyclef Jean joined the house band to close the live music with Aiko Aiko. The encore was "You've Got a Friend".

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/8532..._Trip_It_s_Been

[mjzee]

Let's just get it out of the way now. Nancy Pelosi is a Deadhead. "'Ms. Pelosi is a huge Dead fan,' her spokeswoman said. The Dead you say? Or perhaps it should say The Grateful Dead. The remaining members of the American band the Grateful Dead played tonight for the party celebrating the new re balancing of power and the installation of Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House. The live music concert touted as "on January 4th, Nancy Pelosi Presents" wound down about 10:30pm EST.

The "House Band", which featured three members of The Grateful Dead as well as members from the band Phish and The Allman Brothers Bandopened the show with a touching "End of the Innocence' by Bruce Hornsby followed by "Touch of Grey" by The Grateful Dead. Then Tony Bennet sang"The Best is Yet to Come" and "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". Near the end of the concert, Wyclef Jean joined the house band to close the live music with Aiko Aiko. The encore was "You've Got a Friend".

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/8532..._Trip_It_s_Been

The New York Post reported that the first song the Dead played was Shakedown Street, perhaps appropos considering the surroundings!

[orchiddoctor]

Oops--placed this in a "new' thread by accident! My bad!

Having posted for a few months on another, dead specific site, I just want to take a minute ti say "THank You" to you guys for your intelligent, interesting, informative, mellow, and no vitriolic posts. There are a lot of boards out there where egos, not topics, rule.

Here, I found friendship (yes, Lon), I have found all sorts of usful links, and have enjoyed the threads. I have found folks to be helpful, not hostile, and I enjoy making my own posts without fear of harsh criticism or disdain. And no one jumps on my typos!

This is a good place, filled with good people.

Thanks!

[Tony Pusey]

You are welcome Doc, I, for one like having you around-now group cuddle, OK?

[John L]

Yes, this is a great thread. Thanks to everyone, and to Orchiddoctor and Lon in particular, for keeping it so stimulating and informative.

Edited January 9, 2007 by John L

[orchiddoctor]

One can only be intersting if one's peers are also thus.

I have learned a lot from this board/thread. And I have started listening to the dead more than I have in years. WIth great satisfaction, I find that they stand the test of time. So many of their songs--especially the slew of Hunter-Garcia tunes--from 1070--1973 are timeless snapshots of the American landscape. In fact, I would daresay that the G.D. are the most American non-jazz band I've heard.

Witness:

Gone are the days when the ox fall down

Take up the yoke and plough the fields around

Gone are the days when the ladies said "please

Gentle Jack Jones won't you come to me"

Brown-eyed women and red grenadine

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean

Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down

And it looks like the old man's getting on

Nineteen twenty when he stepped to the bar

Drank to the dregs of the whiskey jar

Nineteen thirty when the wall caved in

He made his way selling red-eyed gin

Brown-eyed women and red grenadine

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean

Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down

And it looks like the old man's getting on

Delilah Jones was the mother of twins

Two times over and the rest were sins

Raised eight boys, only I turned bad

Didn't get the lickings that the other ones had

Brown-eyed women and red grenadine

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean

Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down

And it looks like the old man's getting on

Tumble-down shack in Big Foot County

Snowed so hard that the roof caved in

Delilah Jones went to meet her God

And the old man never was the same again

Brown-eyed women and red grenadine

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean

Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down

And it looks like the old man's getting on

Daddy made whiskey and he made it well

Cost two dollars and it burned like hell (note e)

I cut hickory just to fire the still

Drink down a bottle and you're ready to kill (note f)

Brown-eyed women and red grenadine

The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean

Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down

And it looks like the old man's getting on

And it looks like the old man's getting on

A tale of generations, of survival, of moonshining and tradion, of father-son, or the harsh realities of Appalachian life, of the core of the American experience.

This is one of Hunter's great first person narratives very much like Black Peter or Here Comes Sunshine. Brown Eyed Women and much of the Hunter-Garica songs from this time could easily have been penned by J.R. Robertson or perhaps even Dylan. All were back on the frontier--back into the history of America, with its gamblers, bootleggers, miners, outlaws, candymen, honkytonkers, all of them truckin' along the American landscape. That's why I've always felt that the Dead were perhaps the most American of bands--outside the jazz spectrum--because they explored and grew from their roots. A listen to the Roots of the Grateful Dead cd is illuminating.

Beat that for a dip into the fabric of the American mythos.

[jazzbo]

One can only be intersting if one's peers are also thus.

I have learned a lot from this board/thread. And I have started listening to the dead more than I have in years. WIth great satisfaction, I find that they stand the test of time. So many of their songs--especially the slew of Hunter-Garcia tunes--from 1070--1973 are timeless snapshots of the American landscape. In fact, I would daresay that the G.D. are the most American non-jazz band I've heard.

Well said all around Bill! No arguments from me. When I started this thread my interest had rekindled. . .and then it took to a hot flame with all the contributors' thoughts and feelings!

[orchiddoctor]

Look, dude, we can't both be pigpen!!!!!!!!!

[jazzbo]

Hmmm. . . I hadn't thought about it quite that way.

Okay, I morphed into another of my idols!

[orchiddoctor]

You made one ugly Pigpen anyway.

A few thoughts:

Seems this thread has been running on fumes as of late--no new fuel for the fire as it were. I hope it fires back up. I've noticed something on another thread (another band): Song of the moment. Picking a song you really enjoy (obviously by the Dead) and putting it up for discussion--like/dislike? Recommended versions? Ideas on what makes it a great (or lousy) song?

I put up Brown Eyed Women--it is usually my favorite Dead tune. So perfect for the image they were creating at the time, and right in the middle of the most prolific period of the Hunter-Garcia songwriting. I also love the harmonies and Jerry's ability to make you feel that he really IS Gentle Jack Jones (not evey singer can do that).

Thoughts?

[orchiddoctor]

Let's just get it out of the way now. Nancy Pelosi is a Deadhead. "'Ms. Pelosi is a huge Dead fan,' her spokeswoman said. The Dead you say? Or perhaps it should say The Grateful Dead. The remaining members of the American band the Grateful Dead played tonight for the party celebrating the new re balancing of power and the installation of Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House. The live music concert touted as "on January 4th, Nancy Pelosi Presents" wound down about 10:30pm EST.

The "House Band", which featured three members of The Grateful Dead as well as members from the band Phish and The Allman Brothers Bandopened the show with a touching "End of the Innocence' by Bruce Hornsby followed by "Touch of Grey" by The Grateful Dead. Then Tony Bennet sang"The Best is Yet to Come" and "I Left My Heart in San Francisco". Near the end of the concert, Wyclef Jean joined the house band to close the live music with Aiko Aiko. The encore was "You've Got a Friend".

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/8532..._Trip_It_s_Been

The New York Post reported that the first song the Dead played was Shakedown Street, perhaps appropos considering the surroundings!

I heard Phil was M.I.A.? Three members? Does that include Hornsby?

[Spontooneous]

No Phil. Bobby, the drummers and Hornsby.

There was a link to a slide show from the event on another site, but I can't find it right now. Will try to find it later.

[jazzbo]

Yes, Brown-Eyed Women. That was one of the songs that got me going in the "Europe '72" phase of my Dead listener history.

Really nice imagery that I can relate to from some personal experience!

And I love the real folky feel of the B section.