The Grateful Dead Dark Star

[HolyStitt]

Are there any good Dylan/Dead shows? The ones I've heard are not too good. Any recommendations of what I should try?

I have the July 19, 1987 show.

It is not the worst I have heard, but it still solicits a few cringes from me.

[Quincy]

Are there any good Dylan/Dead shows? The ones I've heard are not too good. Any recommendations of what I should try?

I have the July 19, 1987 show.

It is not the worst I have heard, but it still solicits a few cringes from me.

Indeed it does. Of all things despite Kesey's presence on the scene I've heard it was a bottle of bourbon that is behind Bob's cringe inducing moments.

It was a beautiful sunny day in Eugene, and it sure was fun to see them all assembled on the stage together. There was the potential that something great could happen, it just didn't. Still a good time was had in person.

[AmirBagachelles]

Favorite show = Louisville Freedom Hall June '74, great moments throughout but the depth and range of emotion throughout The Other One, Stella Blue, and Morning Dew is unmatched elsewhere, for me anyway. And Phil especially kills. I wish I could hear more keyboard on my old tape. This would be a great vault release if they could spiffy up the sound.

Favorite attended show = Cape Cod "weekend" October '79. A nice cold hockey rink to warm up, with lots of old friends and hot music. I am just picking the first show I saw the band really rip throughout, after about 15 good-but-not-great nights. Oh man, this was different. Blazing Dancin' > Franklin's Tower, Jack Straw and on and on, four consecutive hot sets. No Going Back. (How did I finish school????)

[John L]

It must have been something to attend 2-14-70!

As I am just now getting familiar with the huge archive of Dead shows, it is too difficult for me to choose a favorite at this point in time.

When I found the archive, the first show that I looked for was 10/21/78 Winterland. Of all the shows that I attended, I found that one to be the most inspired and powerful. Listening to it now again for the first time since the live show confirms my feeling that it was a magical evening.

Of course, all the Dead shows that I attended fall into the 3-year period of 1976-1978. I did see Jerry with his band a number of times after that. (Actually, growing up in the Bay Area, I am fairly sure that I did see the Dead once in either 67 or 68. But since I can't even remember the venue, let alone the concert, I don't count that.)

[Tony Pusey]

Hollywood festival on their first trip to Europe, pretty much the standard Live Dead repertoire if i can remember correctly.. the show was supposed to be recorded on film for the BBC but the band laced the cameramen who immediately became true believers, needles to sew, nothing was filmed by the stoned technicians tho an audio recording was made, i recall hearing it at Rik Griffins exhibition at the Roundhouse.

Second fav show the Wemby stand as documented on Steppin Out/ Europe 72.

[orchiddoctor]

Hollywood festival on their first trip to Europe, pretty much the standard Live Dead repertoire if i can remember correctly.. the show was supposed to be recorded on film for the BBC but the band laced the cameramen who immediately became true believers, needles to sew, nothing was filmed by the stoned technicians tho an audio recording was made, i recall hearing it at Rik Griffins exhibition at the Roundhouse.

Second fav show the Wemby stand as documented on Steppin Out/ Europe 72.

Yeah, Europe '72. Have I mentioned how much I love that run? Ad nauseum you say?

Some good choices. Always loved that Louisville show--as well as 12-31-78. Both were available a long time ago, so I got to them before I took a few decades off from listening to the band.

[Tony Pusey]

Wrong call Orchid, if I understand you correctly- some bright spark can come up with the date ,but their first trip to Yurrup was to play at the Hollywood festival, Newcastle-under-Lyme, otherwise famous as the break thru gig of Mungo Jerry!

[orchiddoctor]

Wrong call Orchid, if I understand you correctly- some bright spark can come up with the date ,but their first trip to Yurrup was to play at the Hollywood festival, Newcastle-under-Lyme, otherwise famous as the break thru gig of Mungo Jerry!

No question about Newcastle! A good show it is.

[Tony Pusey]

Not the Euro 72 Newcastle show! I just checked, its May 1970. I have not heard the tape since 1976 or so, would make a fine Dick or whatever they will call them in future, Just for me, pretty please Rhino!

[Chalupa]

The Cow Palace show is available for pre-order.....

http://www.gdstore.com/store.asp?page=dept...p;dept_id=10601

[vajerzy]

I never attended a Dead show.....not because I'm young (I'm 45) but when I was in HS I had friends who were such HUGE Deadheads- so much so they were obnoxious about it and god forbid you liked any other band- so I hated the Dead because of them......so I went through other avenues of music, including jazz and then rediscovered the Dead about 5 years ago and saw similarities in the Dead's music and jazz. Discovered their music for the first time really so it was from a fresh unadulterated perspective and exciting at that since I had 30+years to review. I'd say 73-78 are my favorite years but I'm beginning to appreciate the Pig years more. Post 90s are hard to handle for me. And I like the Brent years because the B3 organ sounds great with their songs.

[orchiddoctor]

I never attended a Dead show.....not because I'm young (I'm 45) but when I was in HS I had friends who were such HUGE Deadheads- so much so they were obnoxious about it and god forbid you liked any other band- so I hated the Dead because of them......so I went through other avenues of music, including jazz and then rediscovered the Dead about 5 years ago and saw similarities in the Dead's music and jazz. Discovered their music for the first time really so it was from a fresh unadulterated perspective and exciting at that since I had 30+years to review. I'd say 73-78 are my favorite years but I'm beginning to appreciate the Pig years more. Post 90s are hard to handle for me. And I like the Brent years because the B3 organ sounds great with their songs.

Deadheads--obnoxious? No way!

Besides being musical leaders, the band also led the way in merchandising. The ubiquitous akull and roses t- shirt giving way to a myriad of tie-dyed marvels, the stickers, the dancing bears. The ability to release a set of recordings that is over 25 years old and selling it out. But beyond that--the most loyal following in rock.

I can see, however, how the enthusiasm slips into obsession and how obsession can become obnoxious.

I can see the lost souls being a bit much for a non-dead head to put up with!

Still, sorry you missed them.

[Roundsound]

Should we be excited about the new release. I noticed it was multitracked. The sound should be real good.

Has anybody heard this concert before so we can get a review.

[Quincy]

I won't really review the show, other than to say it ain't bad. However, I feel forever indebted to the show from saving me from a possible beating by a psychopath.

A few years ago I was at a tavern meeting up with about 10 other traders of unreleased music (primarily Dead at the time.) I had a copy of 12/31/76 in front of me to share and I had printed out some colorful artwork for it so it was eye-catching. This tavern is in an "eclectic" neighborhood (in other words it's overrun with degenerates) and as sometimes happened someone not quite right in the head sat down amongst us, in fact right across from me. He was a big guy and right away he started acting anxious & paranoid. I tried "talking him down" and suggesting more reality based explanations to his far off hallucinations but he wasn't very receptive and he started to threaten to punch me and others. This went on for about 10 minutes and was really getting stressful for me but I kept my cool.

The all of the sudden he looks down at the back of the case of 12/31/76 that is in front of me. I flip it around for him and looks at the setlist. I can tell he's confused, and his left index finger is touching near "Sugar Magnolia," seemingly out of place as it leads off the 2nd set rather than the more likely place of ending the set. So without him even asking I about it I said "Sugar Magnolia was Bill Graham's favorite song so they lead off the 2nd set with it in his honor." (Of all things just a week earlier a friend had told me this bit of trivia.) The guy smiled and suddenly settled down a little. Then he was distracted by something to his right for a moment, and I took the opportunity to grab my discs & get up and move to another table.

He ended up getting kicked out by the bartender 5 minutes later and didn't punch anybody, but I figure there's a good chance that 12/31/76 saved my teeth!

[John L]

Should we be excited about the new release. I noticed it was multitracked. The sound should be real good.

Has anybody heard this concert before so we can get a review.

I just listened to this concert for the first time since 12/31/76. Sounds great to me, even better than I remembered it through the heavy fog of champagne and reefer.

So you Pigpen addicts are just going to have to put up or shut up.

[orchiddoctor]

Should we be excited about the new release. I noticed it was multitracked. The sound should be real good.

Has anybody heard this concert before so we can get a review.

I just listened to this concert for the first time since 12/31/76. Sounds great to me, even better than I remembered it through the heavy fog of champagne and reefer.

So you Pigpen addicts are just going to have to put up or shut up.

We will never shut up!

But I can manage, I'm sure.

[Aggie87]

I haven't kept up with this thread enough, but has anybody picked up the new(ish) Phil Lesh "Live at the Warfield" set? There's a 2cd/1dvd set available, and I was curious whether Osby & Scofield merely guest on a track or two, or are actually in the band for the whole set. The AMG write up makes it sound as if they're present on all of the tracks. I'm interested in hearing Joan Osborne sing some of the Dead material, as well.

[Spontooneous]

I'm told Scofield and Osby are present most of the time, and there's a long Lesh/Sco/Osby/Molo jam. Haven't seen it myself.

[Tony Pusey]

I am also interested in this Lesh release. When I saw Sco a couple of weeks ago in Helsingborg he introduced an encore saying that it was his Grateful Dead tune......

[trane123]

I am also interested in this Lesh release. When I saw Sco a couple of weeks ago in Helsingborg he introduced an encore saying that it was his Grateful Dead tune......

Now, to me, this is a great band. I posted here a few weeks ago that I've been picking up a number of the "Instant Live" 3 CD releases that were recorded on the bands recent tour. Yes, Osby and Sco are definitely part of the band. The "Instant Live" CDs that I have with Sco find him amazingly well integrated into the band. The two-guitar jams that I've heard are great. Check out the Nashville show. Osby seemed to take a little longer to fit it but toward the end of the tour was really contributing.

And I think I actually like some of the "Instant Live" CDs better than the Warfield release (although that's fine too). I guess I'm a fan...

[vajerzy]

I never attended a Dead show.....not because I'm young (I'm 45) but when I was in HS I had friends who were such HUGE Deadheads- so much so they were obnoxious about it and god forbid you liked any other band- so I hated the Dead because of them......so I went through other avenues of music, including jazz and then rediscovered the Dead about 5 years ago and saw similarities in the Dead's music and jazz. Discovered their music for the first time really so it was from a fresh unadulterated perspective and exciting at that since I had 30+years to review. I'd say 73-78 are my favorite years but I'm beginning to appreciate the Pig years more. Post 90s are hard to handle for me. And I like the Brent years because the B3 organ sounds great with their songs.

Deadheads--obnoxious? No way!

Besides being musical leaders, the band also led the way in merchandising. The ubiquitous akull and roses t- shirt giving way to a myriad of tie-dyed marvels, the stickers, the dancing bears. The ability to release a set of recordings that is over 25 years old and selling it out. But beyond that--the most loyal following in rock.

I can see, however, how the enthusiasm slips into obsession and how obsession can become obnoxious.

I can see the lost souls being a bit much for a non-dead head to put up with!

Still, sorry you missed them.

Looking back on it- I wish I saw them too.......the DPs and other releases will have to do!! Besides- my favorite era is before I could actually see them- I was too young.....

[Tony Pusey]

Trane 123, where can one buy the instant live dicks+

What are your top tips? (2 or 3 would suffice) bearing in mind that its the lineup with Sco that I am interested in

[trane123]

Trane 123, where can one buy the instant live dicks+

What are your top tips? (2 or 3 would suffice) bearing in mind that its the lineup with Sco that I am interested in

I can recommend both the Nashville (6/20/06) and the Asheville, NC (6/27/06) CDs. I was surprised to hear how well integrated into the band Sco is. Really good stuff

I've been finding the "Instant Live" CDs both at the local Borders and independent stores. They're also at Amazon and phil's web site. Only problem is, without being able to see the back cover of the CD which lists the musicians, you can't tell if it's a Scofield or Osby show.

[Aggie87]

Trane 123, where can one buy the instant live dicks+

What are your top tips? (2 or 3 would suffice) bearing in mind that its the lineup with Sco that I am interested in

I can recommend both the Nashville (6/20/06) and the Asheville, NC (6/27/06) CDs. I was surprised to hear how well integrated into the band Sco is. Really good stuff

I've been finding the "Instant Live" CDs both at the local Borders and independent stores. They're also at Amazon and phil's web site. Only problem is, without being able to see the back cover of the CD which lists the musicians, you can't tell if it's a Scofield or Osby show.

There are a couple of Phil & Friends free downloads available through phillesh.net. I downloaded a 12/4/05 concert last night, with Scofield & Chris Robinson from the Black Crowes.

[Quincy]

I've been finding the "Instant Live" CDs both at the local Borders and independent stores. They're also at Amazon and phil's web site. Only problem is, without being able to see the back cover of the CD which lists the musicians, you can't tell if it's a Scofield or Osby show.

It may be a pokey way of doing things, but if you check the setlists at phillesh.com it'll show who was in the band at the bottom of each setlist (or at least a couple that I looked at.)