orchiddoctor Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Yeah, I just thought that Terapin was a tad ironic. I do have total record installed. I guess i just have to find the right connection. That ought to take a few weeks. I want to preserve these dubious quality tapes before they fall apart (assuming they haven't already). Old fashion recording--like snail mail or phones with cords. I'll send you copies of all of them. Oh, yeah, I forgot, you don't like the aec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 That's right. . .haven't developed the taste yet. Next decade maybe! I've actually got a dvd recorder at home and I'm going to use that to transfer a lot of old band tapes. Most all my machines will read the blanks including my best system (with a modified Sony SACD/DVD player as the source) and it allows more information to be stored, probably as much as three or four times cdr length, and you can set it to make indexes automatically every five minutes, which is just right for all those different takes of The Blue Flames doing "Party Door," "Deborah's New Bed" or "The King of LA!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coooltrane Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Just stumbled across this guy's web page. He gives rec's for best versions of some songs. Plus he links you to the archive.org page where you can listen to the song(s) and judge for yourself. Pretty cool stuff. http://members.cox.net/thats-it-4-the-othe...j/frontpage.htm Plus, don't know if there's any additional music on here (as opposed to what's on bt.etree.org and the others) but it might be worth it to check this one out. http://shnflac.net/torrents.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Listening to Luxembourg May 16, 1972. A great "The Other One"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Highly recommended: The Other One from 7-25-72, easily available from GDLive. This one is so outrageous that Bob gets lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Listening to Luxembourg May 16, 1972. A great "The Other One"! Listening to some sort of wierd compilation called "Pigpen Rides Again" Vol. 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Highly recommended: The Other One from 7-25-72, easily available from GDLive. This one is so outrageous that Bob gets lost. I'll be getting around to that one soon. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Listening to Luxembourg May 16, 1972. A great "The Other One"! Listening to some sort of wierd compilation called "Pigpen Rides Again" Vol. 7. Wonder what label that one is on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I'm reading the McNally "history." So far it isn't really telling me much I didn't know, but it's fun to read about the boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I'm reading the McNally "history." So far it isn't really telling me much I didn't know, but it's fun to read about the boys. Yeah, not a lot of new info there. What I found strange was that McNally was an employee from circa 1980 right up to a few years ago and he devoted 3/4ths of the book to the band's first 10 years. I would have preferred to hear his first hand accounts of the time he was w/ the band instead of his rehashing of what is by now "old news" that has been documented elsewhere. If you've read Blair Jackson's Garcia bio you're gonna get most of the same story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Yup, I've read the Jackson bio, and am getting the same story. But, I'm so bored here in Houston, and it's entertaining me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) Yup, I've read the Jackson bio, and am getting the same story. But, I'm so bored here in Houston, and it's entertaining me. Yup. But unfortunately, the Dead mythos centers on the formative years, the wildcatting years when they flew by the seat of their pants. Note that even Phil's book tends to focus on the first decade of the band. Face it: they weren't as exciting in their personal lives as they were when they were a true, maniacal collective, a six or seven headed beast. Their youthful excesses were an integral part of their growth and formation while the later excesses were simply the spoils of rock and roll. It's one thing to talk about Owsley's acid or running under the radar when it's "cool;" it's another to talk about Persian heroin and alcohol--not "cool." Besides, as mentioned, Jerry's drug habits have already been written about. The Acid Test days still hold exciting stories as yet untold about a much more interesting time and cast of characters. It's like Grandpa telling us about when he was a boy. Gee, gramps, what was it like to be 40? Edited September 18, 2006 by orchiddoctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I too think there's exciting stories still to be told about the Acid Test years and the role of the Beat and Prankster figures in the shaping of the Dead, etc. I'm very interested in this . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I'm reading the McNally "history." So far it isn't really telling me much I didn't know, but it's fun to read about the boys. Yeah, not a lot of new info there. Good to hear the feedback. Read Blair's book but have passed on McNally's as I felt it was too soon since I picked up the former. Blair's site has outtakes from his book arranged by chapter. As he's writing about Jerry & the Dead, there has to be unreleased stuff to share. An American Life outtakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coooltrane Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Now listening - 6/09/1976 wow, i downloaded so much Dead in the last month or two, its going to take me a while to go through it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Now listening - 6/09/1976 wow, i downloaded so much Dead in the last month or two, its going to take me a while to go through it all. Before (well, and after) the archives shut off the downloads, I went through and catagorically downloaded all of 1966. 67, 68, 69, and was working on 70. Waaaaaaaaay too much--especially of one band. I used to joke about doing a ten cd box set of Me and My Uncle, and now I can do it. I don't need all the short songs--I'm just into definitive versions of High Time, etc., but all those Dark Stars--well, you need to listen to them several times to really hear them. Still, I'm glad I did it. Someday, when they come to get me, I can hopefully grab all my cds and live happily ever after. Say, did you hear the one about the old yeller dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I'm kindof glad they got rid of those soundboards availability wise. . . I'm enjoying the audience tapes in a different way. On the best of them you're really right there! Someone is shouting right behind you, around you, in front of you. . . I've had some really interesting moments walkinga bout with headphones! I'm really glad to have them. I'm up to 1972 now, and hope to polish off that year and then pause and savor. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I'm kindof glad they got rid of those soundboards availability wise. . . I'm enjoying the audience tapes in a different way. On the best of them you're really right there! Someone is shouting right behind you, around you, in front of you. . . I've had some really interesting moments walkinga bout with headphones! I'm really glad to have them. I'm up to 1972 now, and hope to polish off that year and then pause and savor. . . . Some soundboards do seem to be antiseptic in their clarity--like a studio recording. It's interesting to note that Healy did some Matrix boards--soundboard plus audience mics--to increase the depth and lend some of the concert experience. ANd certainly, there are plenty of great shows available only on audience--especially 1968. From 1970--73 I recorded a good number of shows on shitty little cassette recorders, and I had a blast listening to the muddy, hissy tapes--because I could close my eyes and enjoy the show again. But I still love them soundboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Oh good gosh yes, continue to love the soundboards! I'm loving the ones that I have as well, indeed. And I really enjoy, REALLY ENJOY, those released as Dick's Picks, just great sound and good picks of shows. . . . The audience ones just have their own flavors, and I enjoy downloading them. I don't know what I would do if there were the soundboards AND the audience to download! Most likely get really bogged down trying to listen and evaluate and choose what to burn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coooltrane Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Oh good gosh yes, continue to love the soundboards! I'm loving the ones that I have as well, indeed. And I really enjoy, REALLY ENJOY, those released as Dick's Picks, just great sound and good picks of shows. . . . The audience ones just have their own flavors, and I enjoy downloading them. I don't know what I would do if there were the soundboards AND the audience to download! Most likely get really bogged down trying to listen and evaluate and choose what to burn! you can still get a lot of sbds on bt.etre.org and other sites out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Yes, but I don't do shn files, convert to wav. files etc; I just do what I can easily import into iTunes. I've limited time to mess with this type of thing and limited skills. So the official products released, the MP3 soundboards I have found, and the audience MP3 recordings are what I'm concentrating on, and really that's a huge amount right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coooltrane Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, but I don't do shn files, convert to wav. files etc; I just do what I can easily import into iTunes. I've limited time to mess with this type of thing and limited skills. So the official products released, the MP3 soundboards I have found, and the audience MP3 recordings are what I'm concentrating on, and really that's a huge amount right there. that's ridiculous. shn/flac is just about as easy as Mp3s. There's only one additional step. Besides, why would you want lossy when you can have lossless ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajerzy Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys are killing me!! I'm like a kid staring at an item in a store that I want but can't get. I'm still living in the sticks and stuck with dial-up with no cable or DSL available.... However- people have been so kind as to offering shows to me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coooltrane Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 You guys are killing me!! I'm like a kid staring at an item in a store that I want but can't get. I'm still living in the sticks and stuck with dial-up with no cable or DSL available.... However- people have been so kind as to offering shows to me...... sorry but i love the internet for getting some SICK DEAD shows, including LOSSLESS soundboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, but I don't do shn files, convert to wav. files etc; I just do what I can easily import into iTunes. I've limited time to mess with this type of thing and limited skills. So the official products released, the MP3 soundboards I have found, and the audience MP3 recordings are what I'm concentrating on, and really that's a huge amount right there. that's ridiculous. shn/flac is just about as easy as Mp3s. There's only one additional step. Besides, why would you want lossy when you can have lossless ? To each their own young whippersnapper. My iBook and I just have problems with some things, and I understand limits on both my time, talents, and resources. You may understand that one day yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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