orchiddoctor Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 According to inside sources, not many were printed, fewer were distributed, few were sold, and it is speculated that only 20 or so survive today. I found one in 1969 in a Greenwich Village hole in the wall record store on Bleeker Street. I kept it in pristine condition and sold it in the late 70's for two thousand dollars to a crazed tape head in Brooklyn whose name I cannot divulge--mostly because I cannot remember it. I always thought that the recording sounded ridiculous in its immature performance. Could that really be the dead???? Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 According to Blair Jackson's bio of Jerry (which is pretty cool) there were only 150 copies of that single printed! Wow. Rare. I'm listening to the Dead at the Ivar Theater in February 1966, man Pigpen was on that night. The "King Bee/Caution" pair is about as good as it gets. I really like hearing Jerry on that big Guild doing those Chicago licks (in his own special way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Just for the record (no pun intended), the two songs were nothing special, and they can be found on all sorts of boots. I think that one boot has a half dozen takes including instrumental tracks of each song. One of the "Unsurpassed" series. Yawn. That Kingbee--caution pair is hot, primal dead. It has been sugggested that it was done in the studio. Sweet sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Yes, might have been studio. . .b u t it does have that early Bear stereo sound. . . .! Great stuff. I think both the sides of the single are on "Birth of the Dead," no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Yes, I think the singles are there. Now, as I pm'd to Lon, I found a goodie. I don't know the story, just the ending. The new Windows Media player (free download) offers all the usual music for burning or ipoding. Go there. Go to URGE. Go to "Artist." scroll down a small bit. Se it: Grateful Dead, Avalon Ballroom 1-24, 25, 26 1969. Better quality than Archive. This is where the eleven--lovelight on Live Dead comes from. It's like a companion to the Fillmore Box Set. Is this provided by Rhino or the Dead? It's right between all the "hit" cds, so it must be legit. Okay, don't want to pay to play? Get the 15 day free trial like I did and burn the muthah. The last "Clementine"--well, it's just top quality 1969 dead. Is more to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajerzy Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Ok- I HAVE to ask: Would anyone be interested in burning a few downlaods? I live in the sticks and have dialup and it's SLOW......perhaps the Avalon Ballroom the Dr. ordered........ or a few Download series- I'd pay some cash to defray your purchase costs.....(hmmm- is this legal??). No harm asking!! BTW- DP36 is awesome- I just listened to it beginning to end last week..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrugs Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Ok- I HAVE to ask: Would anyone be interested in burning a few downlaods? I live in the sticks and have dialup and it's SLOW......perhaps the Avalon Ballroom the Dr. ordered........ or a few Download series- I'd pay some cash to defray your purchase costs.....(hmmm- is this legal??). No harm asking!! BTW- DP36 is awesome- I just listened to it beginning to end last week..... no cash needed if you want some 77, 78 or 79. I have some on the hd. Just send an address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Going back to an earlier debate, an interesting article: http://www.jambands.com/Columns/Zzyzx/cont..._12_12.00.phtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I guess I agree with the writer re: the downloads. They would be good for recruting new collectors. Funny that he mentions that most would buy concerts that they attended themselves. I'm personally far more interested in concerts by the Dead (and many other artists) earlier than I saw them. I'd love to see the Dead reissue lots of material live from the first three or four years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Just for the record (no pun intended), the two songs were nothing special, and they can be found on all sorts of boots. I think that one boot has a half dozen takes including instrumental tracks of each song. One of the "Unsurpassed" series. What's interesting to me is that both of these songs were Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions staples, rearranged for the new band. I have to hear that McCree's stuff one of these days. . . I'm looking for a cd copy, thought I'd mention that (I have a post to that effect in the "Offering and Looking for" forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrugs Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_4136208 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 THE MUSICAL legacy of the Grateful Dead - some 13,000 live audio and video recordings spanning the band's 30-year concert career - left Marin County in a temperature-controlled truck and is now being stored in a huge Warner Brothers Music vault in Southern California. The transfer of the priceless "vault" recordings - from a Novato warehouse to a Fort Knox-like facility in Burbank - is a physical manifestation of a milestone deal that effectively dissolves Marin-based Grateful Dead Productions and turns over the Hall of Fame band's business operations to Rhino Entertainment, a subsidiary of giant Warner Music Group. "It's sad to see it go," Grateful Dead tape archivist David Lemieux said of the vault collection. "But it couldn't be in better hands." The group is managed by former Grateful Dead Productions President Cameron Sears, who has also been retained by the Dead as an independent contractor, as has longtime CFO Nancy Mallonee and tape archivist Lemieux. Question. Why did they retain a tape archivist when they have no tapes???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Question. Why did they retain a tape archivist when they have no tapes???? Perhaps because of his expertise, he is a liason???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I went back on the Windows Media player to burn the last Avalon concert and they didn't show up as they did before under artist. I found them again by typing in grateful dead 1 24 1969 then 1 25 1969 and 1 26 1969. Are there more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr jazz Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 there have been almost all of the fabled May 77 soundboards (all good SQ and some absolutely pristine) for down load on dime and zomb torrent sites-also other sites as well. I just got a nice copy of the great 5-9-77 show with one of my all time favorite 1st sets. Out there for free! For now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 there have been almost all of the fabled May 77 soundboards (all good SQ and some absolutely pristine) for down load on dime and zomb torrent sites-also other sites as well. I just got a nice copy of the great 5-9-77 show with one of my all time favorite 1st sets. Out there for free! For now I know only about dimeadozen.org (home to a lot of Jazz such as Trane, the AEC, etc.), but not "zomb." Perhaps those in the know might list a few download sites. These sites tend to host only "legal" downloads, so there is no "moral" hangover involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 After reading the article about Rhino taking over the entire contents of the Vault I think the days of 'legal' downloading for free are numbered. Grab it now while you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 After reading the article about Rhino taking over the entire contents of the Vault I think the days of 'legal' downloading for free are numbered. Grab it now while you can. Agreed: First, the excuse re: archive was that they were taking contributions. So does dime and the others. Second: Unlike Dead.net, Rhino is a real business, and they have signed a deal. Now the Dead aren't the "bad guys." Rhino will do everything in its power to protect its investment. BTW, Chalupa--you the guy who has uploaded on archive? If so, hat's off to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr jazz Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 there have been almost all of the fabled May 77 soundboards (all good SQ and some absolutely pristine) for down load on dime and zomb torrent sites-also other sites as well. I just got a nice copy of the great 5-9-77 show with one of my all time favorite 1st sets. Out there for free! For now I know only about dimeadozen.org (home to a lot of Jazz such as Trane, the AEC, etc.), but not "zomb." Perhaps those in the know might list a few download sites. These sites tend to host only "legal" downloads, so there is no "moral" hangover involved. [/quote zombie torrents and trader's den are two i look at. There are a lot out there-google bit torrent sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Sigh..... 11 years ago today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Johnson Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Thank you, Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 A sad ending for a deeply intelligent, deeply gifted, deeply troubled man. Apropos of nothing, more from Rhino: http://www.gdforum.com/cgi-bin/dada/mail.c...2&list=postcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Cool photo of Blue Ron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Cool photo of Blue Ron! Which Dick's Picks is this? NEWSFLASH: www.gdlive.com is back in operation with all of its listings intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Yes, I noticed a way in the back door to the MP3s of gdlive, and have been taking advantage of that. This is artwork from Germany for one of those MP3 shows. There's a lot of resources out there for Deadheads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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