margolbe Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 This may be heretical, but here goes. Most of these CD's only contain 30-40 minutes of music. The packaging is nothing special. If you look at some of the other deluxe editions in classical (Mercury Living Presence, Decca Legends, DG original), they contain far more music, often combining several albums. And look at the Mosaics -- often 60-70 minutes per disk, detailed liner notes and not that much more expensive per disk. Any thoughts? Quote
couw Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 RVGs are sold as "nice price" disks and at under 10$ a disk, I wouldn't say they are too expensive. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Not when you can find them on sale at times, for only $10 or even occasionally $9 each. And even the standard 'list price' of $12 is reasonable, in my opinion. ($13 would be pushing it, but $12 seems fair to me.) I figure, at least they aren't trying to soak us for $13.99 for all these remasters of titles that many of us already have (or can find used for $8 or $9). So no, I don't think they're overpriced. Quote
BeBop Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Nope. I don't buy many CDs anymore, but I'd be happy to part with $10 or less for one of these. What's classic music worth, anyway? Quote
RDK Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Yeah, I regularly buy them for less than ten bucks, so no they're not overpriced. Quote
sidewinder Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 They can often be found at £4.99 over here at HMV so I would say that they are great value. The copy protection on the latest ones sucks though.. Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 They were overpriced when they first came out ($16.99 list, w/the cardboard sleeves), but then BN dropped them down to $11.99 list, which I think is quite reasonable. Quote
sjarrell Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Imo they're reasonably priced, even at the Borders $11.99. I always enjoy Blumenthal's new notes- they're usually a factor in my upgrading. The only one that angers me (still haven't bought it) is the Rollins Vanguard double with its inexplicable $27 list. Can't figure that for the life of me. But I want it... Quote
Sundog Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 $8.39 at cd Universe as preorders. $7.99 at alldirect.com if your willing to wait awhile. Seems reasonable to me. Quote
Claude Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 With mid-priced CDs there is no reason to complain in my view. I usually pre-order new RVGs at cduniverse.com, were they cost less than $9. Until the Blue Note releases were copy-protected in Europe (june 2003) I used to wait until the RVGs were available at zweitausendeins.de, were they were sold for 7 Euro. As far as 2CD RVGs are concerned, they cost 16-18 Euro here, which is less than twice the price of a single CD RVG. Sonny Rollins Village Vanguard @ amazon.de Quote
wesbed Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Yeah, that darned $8.99 - $11.99 per disk is breaking me, financially. The costs of the remastering, repackaging, distributing, retailing, and some profit must be paid by some means. If Blue Note can keep the price of RVGs where it is, I'll continue buying the RVG releases. What I don't understand about RVG pricing is why a two-disk RVG costs more than two one-disk RVGs. What gives? Quote
Brad Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Great price as far as I'm concerned. Can't beat $10 or less from cd universe, as noted. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 I agree, no way they're overpriced. I started to pick up Six Pieces of Silver used yesterday and thought "why? I can find it for this price new!" and put it back. Let somebody curious and unfamiliar with him find it... Quote
Tjazz Posted June 19, 2004 Report Posted June 19, 2004 Hey, if you're really cheap, you can always join the BMG club and get your Blue Note RVGs (at least some of them) thru your enrollment deal. Quote
JSngry Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 (edited) Considering that the original LPs went for about 5 bucks new and usually sounded better, HELL YEAH they're overpriced! JUST KIDDING!!!!! Seriously, I think the price is about as good as one could hope for. Definitely NOT overpriced! Edited June 20, 2004 by JSngry Quote
Noj Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 I have twice complained about prices, only to have non-US posters inform me about spending $20+ for every cd. Spoiled Americans... Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 I trade my old versions in for $5 credit and pay $10 for the new RVG. They only cost me $5 net, but then I did have to buy the same thing twice... On balance, I do pay to have the remasterings. Obviously, it must be worthwhile for me. I hope BN remasters everything that needs it. Jackie's "Demon Dance" next please.... Quote
ianfaith Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 I think RVGs are priced just fine. It's the Verve Master Editions that cost too much, IMO. Quote
wesbed Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 (edited) I have twice complained about prices, only to have non-US posters inform me about spending $20+ for every cd. Spoiled Americans... Spoiled Americans? Rather, the price of most anything, including CDs, is set to the level at which the market will bear. Fortunately, the market has dictated that Blue Note must price the RVGs at a 'lower' price to make them sell in the USA. Sometimes, the free enterprise system works. Edited June 20, 2004 by wesbed Quote
BruceH Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 Everything's overpriced. Given that, however, I've gotten most of mine for around $9, which is quite reasonable by today's standards. Now, if you want to talk about Connoisseurs....that's a different kettle of fish. Quote
BruceH Posted June 20, 2004 Report Posted June 20, 2004 I think RVGs are priced just fine. It's the Verve Master Editions that cost too much, IMO. Tell me about it. You got a lot of extras with the Verve Master Editions, but they were STILL overpriced, in my humble and pissed off opinion. And they went out of print way too fast. Verve---- Quote
chris olivarez Posted June 21, 2004 Report Posted June 21, 2004 I find the RVG's reasonably priced. Quote
Quincy Posted June 21, 2004 Report Posted June 21, 2004 Though I think RVGs are a bargain, after filling out a spreadsheet I see you might be on to something. Or to rephrase it, a long disc that's priced higher might be a better bargain than a short RVG, at least in terms of valuing art by the pound (or in this case, minute.) Just a few examples: A 70 minute disc at $16.89 is equal to a 50 minute disc at $11.89. (24¢ a minute.) The same goes for the above if the 70 minute disc is $11.48 and the 50 minute is $7.99. (16¢ a minute.) A 57 min. disc at $14.99 is equal to a 35 min. disc at $9.00. (26¢ a minute.) I'll stop there as otherwise it looks like music appreciation by an accountant from a phone company. But suffice to say a long more expensive disc like a Conn is probably a better bargain than a short RVG. As long as you like the extra cuts that is. A couple of short RVGs that jump out at me are Go! and Bud! Short but oh so sweet, and I would have happily paid more if that's what it took. Quote
JSngry Posted June 21, 2004 Report Posted June 21, 2004 A couple of short RVGs that jump out at me are Go! and Bud! Must be the exclamation points! What sayest thou, Mr. Killowatt? Quote
chris olivarez Posted June 22, 2004 Report Posted June 22, 2004 A couple of short RVGs that jump out at me are Go! and Bud! Must be the exclamation points! What sayest thou, Mr. Killowatt? There was a watt-er lot of voltage in your post JSngry. He must be too shocked to reply. Quote
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