David Ayers Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 someone ought to pull together all those stray tracks (including those w/Green and those on the Lost Sessions disc) - that would make a lovely compilation! Now I know for sure you live in a dream! Quote
king ubu Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 someone ought to pull together all those stray tracks (including those w/Green and those on the Lost Sessions disc) - that would make a lovely compilation! Now I know for sure you live in a dream! You suppose wrongly since you take my conjunctive statement as something you think I might believe is possible these days. As I know that's not an option, I let you live on in your dream thinking you know where I live.Btw, if you have those two CDs for sale (you do keep repeating CDs are worth sh*t, after all, don't you?), send them over to me, please, I'll send you two quid. Quote
David Ayers Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) someone ought to pull together all those stray tracks (including those w/Green and those on the Lost Sessions disc) - that would make a lovely compilation! Now I know for sure you live in a dream! You suppose wrongly since you take my conjunctive statement as something you think I might believe is possible these days. As I know that's not an option, I let you live on in your dream thinking you know where I live. Btw, if you have those two CDs for sale (you do keep repeating CDs are worth sh*t, after all, don't you?), send them over to me, please, I'll send you two quid. Don't worry I do know you know that. An idle pleasantry. I'm sure I could find you those CDs though - but I am not sure which ones you want...? Edited May 16, 2012 by David Ayers Quote
king ubu Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) someone ought to pull together all those stray tracks (including those w/Green and those on the Lost Sessions disc) - that would make a lovely compilation! Now I know for sure you live in a dream! You suppose wrongly since you take my conjunctive statement as something you think I might believe is possible these days. As I know that's not an option, I let you live on in your dream thinking you know where I live. Btw, if you have those two CDs for sale (you do keep repeating CDs are worth sh*t, after all, don't you?), send them over to me, please, I'll send you two quid. Don't worry I do you know that. An idle pleasantry. I'm sure I could find you those CDs though - but I am not sure which ones you want...? I know that you know that I know that you know... "Easy Living" and the Japanese "From Hackensack to Englewood Cliffs" which is nowhere to be found on amazon or ebay nowadays. The former seems to be around, but I've recently had some bad experience with several marketplace vendors both via amazon and priceminister, and I'm really not sure I need two more Quebec ballads (Living) and two more organ tracks à la 45 Sessions (Hack Cliffs). That's why, in earlier days (such as 2000, when the Japanese CD reissued the first 45 Session, adding two prev. unissued tracks) it *would* have made perfect sense to pull this together with the tracks on "Lost Sessions" and maybe the two tracks added to Green's "The Latin Bit"... also there are two unissued sessions w/Green from 1962 (May 25 and June 1), where mostly the same tunes were attempted twice... some of that has to be good enough, one would think! (Not sure though, both dates are labelled "rejected", not "unissued", so...) Edited May 16, 2012 by king ubu Quote
David Ayers Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) You are surely right that the 1995 Easy Living is very findable and cheap, but the other title is impossible. So like you I think I've got enough. Edited May 16, 2012 by David Ayers Quote
John L Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Another vote for Blue and Sentimental - one of my favorite records. Ike always sounded good. I like Ike for Ike is easy to like. Quote
king ubu Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) What could make me reconsider buying "Easy Living" is that Cuscuna (in his "post script" in the Bennie Green Mosaic Select booklet) says those three quartet ballads are among Quebec's finest... so I might take the plunge there, and will happily live on without the two 1959 tracks from the Japanese disc. Edited May 16, 2012 by king ubu Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Haven't pulled out my Que CDs, but will grab a few for the road tonight. Also, still a favorite (though of a diff. ilk): Quote
J.A.W. Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Gee, just found out that "From Hackensack to Englewood Cliffs" has yet another two tracks... from a three-track (?) 1959 session, likely with the same band as on the first of the 45 sessions... someone ought to pull together all those stray tracks (including those w/Green and those on the Lost Sessions disc) - that would make a lovely compilation! Why weren't those two tracks ("Uptight" and "Cry Me a River") added to the Conn reissue of "The Incomplete (it's official!) Blue Note 45 Sessions"? According to the first edition of the Cuscuna/Ruppli Blue Note discography the three tracks ("Up Tight", "Cry Me a River" and an incomplete take of "Latin Strain", all with a certain Edwin Swanston on organ) that were recorded on July 20, 1959 were rejected. As for Easy Living, I have the 1987 U.S. CD with eight tracks, including "I've Got a Crush on You", "Nancy (With the Laughing Face)" and "Easy Living". Edited May 16, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote
JSngry Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 What could make me reconsider buying "Easy Living" is that Cuscuna (in his "post script" in the Bennie Green Mosaic Select booklet) says those three quartet ballads are among Quebec's finest... so I might take the plunge there, and will happily live on without the two 1959 tracks from the Japanese disc. Cuscuna is correct, imo. Quote
king ubu Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 It's on my shopping list... told you it was a silly question since I did anticipate the answer Quote
Brad Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Just listened to Easy Living last week! Hadn't listened to it in years. Nice tunes. Quote
jeffcrom Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I've spun several discs of Ike Q. today. I just finished playing It Might As Well Be Spring - what a delight. Quote
David Ayers Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Here's one for collectors at Jazz House in uk IKE QUEBEC BLUE & SENTIMENTAL - WHITE LABEL TEST PRESSING SIGNED/ APPROVED IKE QUEBEC VG+/VG+ BLUE NOTE W 61st USA £300.00 BLP4098 Edited May 17, 2012 by David Ayers Quote
T.D. Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) I like 'em all (except "From Hackensack to Englewood Cliffs" which I've never heard), listen frequently, and "Easy Living" is actually my favorite. Agreed re. Ike's playing on Clark's "Deep in a Dream". Edited May 17, 2012 by T.D. Quote
robertoart Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Anyone know the story behind these two sessions remaining unreleased. Hard to imagine why they missed surfacing during 'the great vault emancipation' of the late 80's-90's. Could they possibly be that bad? I mean 2 attempts at the same session by these players. Seems strange. Ike Quebec Quintet Ike Quebec (ts) Freddie Roach (org) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Wilbert Hogan (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 25, 1962 Sonny Boy Blue Note rejected Take Your Shoes Off - Cop 'N Blo - Early Morning Shuffle - Travelin' - Born To Be Blue - Throwing A Brick - Ike Quebec Quintet same personnel Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 1, 1962 tk.8 Take Your Shoes Off Blue Note rejected tk.13 Cop 'N Blo - tk.20 Sonny Boy - tk.32 Throwing A Brick - tk.40 Early Morning Shuffle - tk.44 Travelin' - Edited May 17, 2012 by freelancer Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 So Alfred and Ike decided against release. I would say this is probably an informed decision. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Anyone know the story behind these two sessions remaining unreleased. Hard to imagine why they missed surfacing during 'the great vault emancipation' of the late 80's-90's. Could they possibly be that bad? I mean 2 attempts at the same session by these players. Seems strange. Ike Quebec Quintet Ike Quebec (ts) Freddie Roach (org) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Wilbert Hogan (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 25, 1962 Sonny Boy Blue Note rejected Take Your Shoes Off - Cop 'N Blo - Early Morning Shuffle - Travelin' - Born To Be Blue - Throwing A Brick - Ike Quebec Quintet same personnel Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 1, 1962 tk.8 Take Your Shoes Off Blue Note rejected tk.13 Cop 'N Blo - tk.20 Sonny Boy - tk.32 Throwing A Brick - tk.40 Early Morning Shuffle - tk.44 Travelin' - From what I have heard, only Grant Green is truly "on" for these sessions. The rest of the band has some trouble. Good, but not great and I can see why Blue Note didn't issue it. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I like Ike so I'm tempted to say "all of 'em" but if I had to choose it would be ...no I can't pick just one! Quote
paul secor Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I like Ike so I'm tempted to say "all of 'em" but if I had to choose it would be ...no I can't pick just one! Blue Note should have had an I Like Ike advertising campaign. Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 I have a soft-spot for It Might as well be Spring Me, too. "Easy, Don't Hurt"! Quote
robertoart Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Anyone know the story behind these two sessions remaining unreleased. Hard to imagine why they missed surfacing during 'the great vault emancipation' of the late 80's-90's. Could they possibly be that bad? I mean 2 attempts at the same session by these players. Seems strange. Ike Quebec Quintet Ike Quebec (ts) Freddie Roach (org) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Wilbert Hogan (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 25, 1962 Sonny Boy Blue Note rejected Take Your Shoes Off - Cop 'N Blo - Early Morning Shuffle - Travelin' - Born To Be Blue - Throwing A Brick - Ike Quebec Quintet same personnel Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 1, 1962 tk.8 Take Your Shoes Off Blue Note rejected tk.13 Cop 'N Blo - tk.20 Sonny Boy - tk.32 Throwing A Brick - tk.40 Early Morning Shuffle - tk.44 Travelin' - From what I have heard, only Grant Green is truly "on" for these sessions. The rest of the band has some trouble. Good, but not great and I can see why Blue Note didn't issue it. So what status and purpose do these original tapes serve now if they will never see the light of day. If Lion and Quebec deemed them rejected at the time, why were the session tapes not destroyed instead of being archived for all these years? Quote
sidewinder Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Here's one for collectors at Jazz House in uk IKE QUEBEC BLUE & SENTIMENTAL - WHITE LABEL TEST PRESSING SIGNED/ APPROVED IKE QUEBEC VG+/VG+ BLUE NOTE W 61st USA £300.00 BLP4098 Wow ! Quote
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