Japanese 24-bit Toshiba/Blue Note reissues

[Man with the Golden Arm]

found this! please translate!

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

I'm surprised that these new 24-bit jobbers haven't started trickling into the usual spots over here...or have they?

[Late]

I'm surprised that these new 24-bit jobbers haven't started trickling into the usual spots over here...or have they?

The Bards have some. They're listing them at $18.99 a pop. (I'm going the Hiroshi route.)

[J.A.W.]

These TOCJ24s will be released on June 8, 2005 (1,500 yen each):

TOCJ-6501 Horace Silver – Doin’ the Thing

TOCJ-6502 Jackie McLean – Demon’s Dance

TOCJ-6503 Charlie Rouse – Bossa Nova Bacchanal

TOCJ-6504 Three Sounds – Bottoms Up

TOCJ-6505 Jackie McLean – Jackie’s Bag

TOCJ-6506 Lou Donaldson – LD+3

TOCJ-6507 Art Blakey – African Beat

TOCJ-6508 Curtis Fuller – The Opener

TOCJ-6509 Fred Jackson – Hootin’ ‘n’ Tootin’

TOCJ-6510 Grant Green – Grant’s First Stand

TOCJ-6511 McCoy Tyner – The Real McCoy

TOCJ-6512 J.J. Johnson – The Eminent Jay Jay Johnson, Vol.1

TOCJ-6513 Johnny Griffin – Introducing Johnny Griffin

TOCJ-6514 Duke Pearson – Profile

TOCJ-6515 Jackie McLean – Jackie McLean Quintet

TOCJ-6516 Dizzy Reece – Star Bright

TOCJ-6517 Grant Green – Sunday Mornin’

TOCJ-6518 Lou Donaldson – Sunny Side Up

TOCJ-6519 Curtis Fuller – Bone & Bari

TOCJ-6520 Jimmy Smith – Midnight Special

Edit: release date is June 8, 2005.

Edited June 2, 2005 by J.A.W.

[Man with the Golden Arm]

So what is the consensus of the sound here now that these have been selling for some time. No more upgrading for me but I did pick up "Davis Cup" in the 6XXX series a ways back and could not get it out of my hands fast enough. Nearly RVG series to my system. Guess I need tubes!

Luckily I scored a regular old TOCJ cheap and am very happy.

[J.A.W.]

So what is the consensus of the sound here now that these have been selling for some time. No more upgrading for me but I did pick up "Davis Cup" in the 6XXX series a ways back and could not get it out of my hands fast enough. Nearly RVG series to my system. Guess I need tubes!

Luckily I scored a regular old TOCJ cheap and am very happy.

What was the problem with the Davis Cup TOCJ24? Too loud/compressed, too bright, or?

[Man with the Golden Arm]

I felt it extremely bright. Granted is was nice and clean but I recall it did have a bit of hizz on the drop out soft spots. I don't get the chance to A/B much as I never have two sames at once but did here and was sold on the old time warmth offered by the 16 bit-er. Something about the higher rezz that ends up just a bit annoying over the course of a whole disc. Almost as if there is an above sonic level that gets to you after a while. Granted I'm running a solid state system so maybe that leftover zone of shrilliness up top is easily overcome by the out of the wall warmth offered with blocks or tubes.

Just my two yen (for what that's worth ).

[J.A.W.]

I felt it extremely bright. Granted is was nice and clean but I recall it did have a bit of hizz on the drop out soft spots. I don't get the chance to A/B much as I never have two sames at once but did here and was sold on the old time warmth offered by the 16 bit-er. Something about the higher rezz that ends up just a bit annoying over the course of a whole disc. Almost as if there is an above sonic level that gets to you after a while. Granted I'm running a solid state system so maybe that leftover zone of shrilliness up top is easily overcome by the out of the wall warmth offered with blocks or tubes.

Just my two yen (for what that's worth ).

It's a bit loud, but not that bright, at least not to my ears. I don't have a problem with it, and I also have a solid-state system.

[Late]

The TOCJ24 edition of Page One is the best I've heard to date.

(Note: Haven't heard the older TOCJ, but have heard the McMaster, the JRVG, and the RVG. Strangely, perhaps, I like the McMaster the best of these three.)

[AllenLowe]

what, no Hot Dog?

[Degiorgio]

do these new budget priced 24bit Japanese editions not have bonus tracks/alt takes?

KD

[JohnJ]

do these new budget priced 24bit Japanese editions not have bonus tracks/alt takes?

KD

No bonus/alt tracks, at least on those that I have seen.

[Chuck Nessa]

If you trade bits for music, you lose. B-)

[Degiorgio]

thx for the info.... how about the JRVG mini-sleeve editions? Bonus tracks or no?

KD

[Bluerein]

except for the latest batches TOCJ-95xx I believe they don't have extra tracks.

[J.A.W.]

If you trade bits for music, you lose.  B-)

That depends on how you like your music - I prefer the sound of the TOCJs, they sound much more musical to me than (J)RVGs and McMastered Blue Note reissues.

[Bol]

TOCJ-6502 Jackie McLean – Demon’s Dance

Am I right in thinking that this is the only one of this series that had not appeared as a part of the older Blue Note Works 16- or 20-bit TOCJs?

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

That could be. There are also a handful of TOCJs ('Here to Stay' & 'Jubilee Shout') that, for some strange reason, never made it into the JRVG column.

[Alfred]

If you trade bits for music, you lose.  B-)

Every KING or even Toshiba-EMI LP Reissue (except the latest BN 65 anniversary - which is a CD on vinyl!!!) sounds better than the next XX-bit CD re-re-re-release.

I'm veeeeeeeeery happy with my still growing LP-collection. Anyone interested in JRVG's, TOCJ's, TOCJ24's, McMaster, .........?!

[jbs-tom]

oh yes i am - hello to hamburg from munich

collecting japan blue note lps an tocj cds (with jewel cases)

but i do like the japan BN 65 anniversary , don't you ? ... maybe not that good as the early king bn issues but such good as the toshiba releases

later

tom

[J.A.W.]

These TOCJ24s will be released on July 5, 2005 (1,500 yen each):

TOCJ-6521 Thad Jones - Detroit-New York Junction

TOCJ-6522 Bennie Green - Back on the Scene

TOCJ-6523 Stanley Turrentine - Blue Hour

TOCJ-6524 Curtis Fuller - Curtis Fuller, Vol.3

TOCJ-6525 Art Blakey - The Jazz Messengers at the Cafe Bohemia, Vol.2

TOCJ-6526 Kenny Burrell - Kenny Burrell at the Five Spot Cafe

TOCJ-6527 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon

TOCJ-6528 Johnny Griffin - A Blowing Session

TOCJ-6529 Horace Silver - Finger Poppin' with the Horace Silver Quintet

TOCJ-6530 Freddie Redd - Shades of Redd

TOCJ-6531 Donald Byrd - Byrd in Flight

TOCJ-6532 Jimmy Smith - Home Cookin'

TOCJ-6533 Kenny Dorham - Una Mas

TOCJ-6534 Hank Mobley - Hank Mobley & His All Stars

TOCJ-6535 Jimmy Smith - A New Sound, a New Star: Jimmy Smith at the Organ, Vol.1

TOCJ-6536 Art Blakey - Holiday for Skins

TOCJ-6537 Jimmy Smith - The Incredible Jimmy Smith at the Organ, Vol.3

TOCJ-6538 Three Sounds - Introducing the Three Sounds

TOCJ-6539 Hank Mobley - Peckin' Time

TOCJ-6540 Bennie Green - Walkin' and Talkin'

All the usual disclaimers apply.

Edit: release date correction.

Edited April 30, 2005 by J.A.W.

[J.A.W.]

The release date of the July batch is July 5, not July 7.

[J.A.W.]

I edited the complete list in my first post.