underrated trumpet players from the 60's, 70's...

[Bright Moments]

how about Melton Mustafa! B)

[cannonball-addict]

How about Rebecca Coupe Franks? A slightly off-the-beaten-path sound but excellent player. She has a new album out which is a tribute to Joe Henderson.

[Rooster_Ties]

How about Rebecca Coupe Franks? A slightly off-the-beaten-path sound but excellent player. She has a new album out which is a tribute to Joe Henderson.

EDIT: Hell's bells, the disc is available through CDBaby. HERE are the details, and some samples...

Edited June 5, 2004 by Rooster_Ties

[Bright Moments]

this is an early one: Rafael Mendez. B)

[Brad]

If you're talking about underrated people, how can you not mention Freddie Webster, one of the greats who had an influence on Miles. I believe a while ago, ghost of miles started a thread about him.

Many of the people mentioned in this thread are not really unerrated (Kenny D, Buck) but Freddie truly is. For those interested in Freddie, check out this site, which ghost brought to our attention at that time.

Edited June 5, 2004 by Brad

[Larry Kart]

Don Fagerquist. Sort of a cross between Dizzy Gillespie and Bobby Hackett, if you can imagine that.

[king ubu]

Don Fagerquist...

Good call! Love his octet album (Mode/V.S.O.P.)!

ubu

[chris olivarez]

Freddie Webster like Fats Navarro died way too young. Who knows what kind of legacy they would have had if they had lived.

[mikeweil]

Thad Jones!

[Brownian Motion]

Bill Coleman and Doc Cheathem.

[Larry Kart]

If I were a cat, Bill Coleman would make me want to roll over on my back and purr.

Another fine player from that era, though perhaps not quite of Coleman's stature, was Shad Collins.

[Larry Kart]

And don't forget -- if he hasn't already been mentioned -- Joe Wilder.

[Brownian Motion]

Another 1950s player who was highly regarded as an underrated player in his own day was Phil Sunkel. Stu Williamson was an interesting player who got dragged down by drugs. And Dick Cary, who mainly played piano and arranged, was also a pretty good trumpet player, though his recordings are rare.

[Brad]

I forgot about Joe Wilder. Joe Wilder for sure. Way underrated. At least he got a little attention a year or so ago in Jazz Times.

[brownie]

Not only underrated but totally forgotten: Don Sleet.

He recorded an excellent album 'All Members' for Jazzland in 196O. And also appeared on the 'Eastern Lights' Riverside LP by Lenny McBrowne that came out in the 'A Cannonball Adderley Presentation' series plus a coup^le of other albums and seems to have been lost since.

[mikeweil]

I forgot about Joe Wilder. Joe Wilder for sure. Way underrated. At least he got a little attention a year or so ago in Jazz Times.

Excellent player! I cherish his Savoy dates - and the Ernie Wilkins All-Star trumpet spectacular he's on.

[mikeweil]

Not only underrated but totally forgotten: Don Sleet.

He recorded an excellent album 'All Members' for Jazzland in 196O. And also appeared on the 'Eastern Lights' Riverside LP by Lenny McBrowne that came out in the 'A Cannonball Adderley Presentation' series plus a couple of other albums and seems to have been lost since.

That Lenny McBrowne band made another LP for Pacific Jazz that is just as rare. Sleet plays very well on all of them, but the whole band was fine.

Sleet looked as smart as Baker - maybe Baker did him in to avoid competition?

[Brownian Motion]

Not only underrated but totally forgotten:  Don Sleet.

He recorded an excellent album 'All Members' for Jazzland in 196O. And also appeared on the 'Eastern Lights' Riverside LP by Lenny McBrowne that came out in the 'A Cannonball Adderley Presentation' series plus a coup^le of other albums and seems to have been lost since.

I'm impressed that I've never heard of this guy.

Another trumpet who labored mostly in obscurity was Webster Young. He must have had personal problems. I'd also like to put in a good word for Peanuts Holland, who moved to France after WWII but apparently recorded rarely. Holland had decent chops and a wealth of invention, although his tone was sub-par.

Edited June 7, 2004 by Brownian Motion

[tooter]

Not only underrated but totally forgotten:  Don Sleet.

He recorded an excellent album 'All Members' for Jazzland in 196O. And also appeared on the 'Eastern Lights' Riverside LP by Lenny McBrowne that came out in the 'A Cannonball Adderley Presentation' series plus a coup^le of other albums and seems to have been lost since.

I acquired [All Members] not too long ago, but had never heard of Don Sleet either before that. Nice album - Jimmy Heath too who is a favorite. And a top class rhythm section (Wytnon Kelly, Ron Carter and Jimmy Cobb) - got to be good.

Edited June 7, 2004 by tooter

[Brownian Motion]

Another early bop trumpet who was still playing well in the 1960s was Idrees Sulieman, who began his career as Leonard Graham. His best recording, from the few I've heard, was a Coleman Hawkins date from 1957, featuring J.J. Johnson and a splendid rhythm section.

[Free For All]

Another early bop trumpet who was still playing well in the 1960s was Idrees Sulieman, who began his career as Leonard Graham.  His best recording, from the few I've heard, was a Coleman Hawkins date from 1957, featuring J.J. Johnson and a splendid rhythm section.

[king ubu]

Another early bop trumpet who was still playing well in the 1960s was Idrees Sulieman, who began his career as Leonard Graham.  His best recording, from the few I've heard, was a Coleman Hawkins date from 1957, featuring J.J. Johnson and a splendid rhythm section.

indeed!

Check him on the beautiful "The Cats" with John Coltrane, Tommy Flanagan, Kenny Burrell, Doug Watkins and Louis Hayes.

This was one of the first discs I got when I developped a taste for Coltrane (which was at the same time that I got into jazz).

ubu

[Larry Kart]

A pair of Tristano-influenced trumpeters (a rare breed) --Don Ferrara and Sweden's Jan Allan. Also a guy who's been around for a good while but is just now emerging -- Steve Lampert. He can be heard in striking form on a relatively recent (2002) Steeplechase album under Rich Perry's name, "Hearsay," though it's really Lampert's date it seems; he wrote most of the tunes. Muted throughout, Lampert (no youngster, b. 1953) sounds like he's improvising the sort of lines that George Russell would have written out in the late 1950s, except that the surface is more complicated than that. One hell of a linear thinker. There's also a new Lampert on Steeplechase that I haven't heard but a bit of; most of it's a suite, and there's some synth plus trumpet work from him that sounds like he's worked electronic Miles and even Hendrix into the mix.

[chris olivarez]

Luis Gasca.

[mikeweil]

Another early bop trumpet who was still playing well in the 1960s was Idrees Sulieman, who began his career as Leonard Graham. His best recording, from the few I've heard, was a Coleman Hawkins date from 1957, featuring J.J. Johnson and a splendid rhythm section.

Sulieman moved to Europe like Benny Bailey and Art Farmer, played in the Kenny Clarke / Francy Boland Big Band like these, and did some dates as a leader for SteepleChase that are worth checking out. He died not too long ago in his US hometown.