Son-of-a-Weizen Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Saw a Barney Wilen Quartet '59 (Fresh Sounds) sitting in a NY shop yesterday. Not familiar with this one but it looks like a live recording, part of which was recorded in Newport...and part in Germany with Wilen & a Freiberg rythm section. Is the recording quality any good? ....worth doubling back to pick up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Recording quality is okay, not fantastic but serviceable. Some very nice performances. A Wilen fan will want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Weizen, don't let this get away! It's really good. Three sides from the Newport 1959 Barney Wilen appearance there (with Toshiko Akiyoshi, Tommy Bryant and Roy Haynes). Sound is a bit muddy but acceptable. Then two sides with a quintet that consists of Clark Terry, Bud Powell (BUD POWELL!), Eric Peter and Kenny Clarke, I think comes from a live French TV show also from 1959. Sound is a bit better. Then a version of 'Round Minight' with a strings ensemble recorded in Dusseldorf in the late '50s. Sound gets better. Music is outstanding. Just once more: get this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 brownie, isn't that the Newport album you refer to? I thought weizen maybe meant this one: I don't have either of these and would like to know myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 I've seen the two of these available over and over on websites and in a few stores so I don't thnk they're in danger of being rare quickly; they're among the most easily available of Wilen's recordings. Some blistering bebop on the "Quintet"---quite French in its jazz way, quite nice stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Jazzbo, those Wilen Fresh Sounds seem to get wider distribution over your side of the Atlantic. I rarely see these over here. couw, Weizen clearly refered to the one at top of the two discs whose covers you attached, the one that includes sides from the 1959 Newport appearance. The Wilen Quintet is a very, very rare album that was recorded in 1957 (with Huber Fol on alto, Nico Buninck (excellent Dutch musician, and a very nice guy) on piano, Lloyd Thompson on bass and Al Levitt on drums. This came out on La Guilde du Jazz (the French equivalent of the Jazztone label). I have never seen an original copy of this and grabbed the Fresh Sounds reissue as soon as it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 thank you brownie and I stand corrected.... -_- Never seen these over here in regular stores and e-shops need up to two weeks to get these. Don't know what's up. With Fol on alto, the second one does seems darn interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 I like this recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Jazzbo, those Wilen Fresh Sounds seem to get wider distribution over your side of the Atlantic. I rarely see these over here. couw, Weizen clearly refered to the one at top of the two discs whose covers you attached, the one that includes sides from the 1959 Newport appearance. The Wilen Quintet is a very, very rare album that was recorded in 1957 (with Huber Fol on alto, Nico Buninck (excellent Dutch musician, and a very nice guy) on piano, Lloyd Thompson on bass and Al Levitt on drums. This came out on La Guilde du Jazz (the French equivalent of the Jazztone label). I have never seen an original copy of this and grabbed the Fresh Sounds reissue as soon as it came out. While I don't have either of these - brownie, is this Nico Buninck the same Nico "Bunink" that appears on some of the larger group tracks of Mingus' Candid dates? Didn't know he was european! Don't know anything about him, in fact. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I believe that is one and the same Nico! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I believe that is one and the same Nico! Interesting! I guess I should check out both of these discs. Fol is a great player, too! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 They're interesting discs. I confess that I like Wilen the mature player better than his prodigious and powerful young self. . . but I'm a Wilen competist and find enjoyment in all his work I've found so far. Still need to find some of the seventies rock/Indian/jazz fusions. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I believe that is one and the same Nico! I am sure there is only one Nico Buninck. I heard him a couple of times in Paris clubs in the late '50s when he was hanging around the pretty active jazz scene here. I know he also plays on a Phil Woods Philology CD I've got somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Neat poem: for nico bunick (et al) before the 33 1/3 spinning song -- one of petroleum's finest moments, there were opening acts: shrink wrap crackling like blakey's traps after pee wee marquette's half falsetto, then the player's names, my basement mantra -- the closest i ever came to cool this side of san fran: melba liston, fred katz, carmell jones, jamil nasser, and the one i may have whispered more than christian pals whispered jesus. tough-tender as a half decent steak. played with mingus -- could have played with the cleveland browns. "now swinging his ass off for the delight of too damn few folks, NICO BUNICK!!! didn't record much, a friend snipes upon hearing of his death. but i am still in love, and learning from a distant spring. reuben jackson 2/20/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 so which is it: Nico Bunink, Nico Buninck, or Nico Bunick... the latter I will interpret as poetic freedom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Most referrences I have seen on American issues say Nico Bunick. Most European referrences seem to be for Nico Bunink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 assuming the Dutch are correct on this one, I'll go with Bunink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 But on the internet you may miss some listings if you do (and vice versa). I'd assume the Dutch are correct too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Most referrences I have seen on American issues say Nico Bunick. Most European referrences seem to be for Nico Bunink. I knew him as Nico Buninck, or was it Bunink?? Definitely not Bunick. A google search has three different versions: Bunick (which was how it was spelled on the first album he recorded when he tried his luck in the States -the 'Mingus' LP on Candid), Bunink and Buninck. Bunink seems to be the accepted spelling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 But on the internet you may miss some listings if you do (and vice versa). I am still trying out new versions of Jancsi Körössy's name in google.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted June 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I would have posted earlier, but my system has been on the fritz, and in the shop since last Monday Damn XP.... Brownie, you were right about not letting this one get away. I went back and snagged it, and am very pleased with it. So thanks to you and others for the recommendation. I also wound up picking up a copy of the Dorothy Donegan Trio on Fresh Sounds that isn't too bad. While I was there a guy standing next to me in the store said that he was a friend of Roswell Rudd, and handed me a copy of the Archie Shepp & Roswell Rudd Live in New York on Verve, and told me he was actually there when it was recorded. It is surprisingly good as well. And that is coming from someone who is stuck in the fifties-sixties jazz time warp. Off again to chew out Microsoft/MSN/Comcast whoever (someday they will figure out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Well, I'm just glad to see that it's your computer & not you that's on the fritz! I was about to start a "Where's Weizen?" thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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