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Von Freeman 'Doin' It Right Now' (Atlantic green/orange, stereo) - Von Freeman, John Young, Sam Jones, Jimmy Cobb. What a great lineup !

Warming enormously to Von's quirky Chicago sound. Really nice LP - recommended !

I didn't realise Von had a "Chicago" sound. I always assumed he had a very individual, highly penetrating, sound and that there wasn't a bunch of other Chicago sax players with a similar approach. Looking for some hints, here; I have much to learn about Chicago stuff.

MG

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Al Cohn's Tones (Realm/Savoy)

Two sessions: 1) with George Wallington, Tommy Potter and Tiny Khan

2) with Nick Travis, Horace Silver, Curley Russell and Max Roach

Anyone know the recording dates for these? (No information given on the album.)

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Von Freeman 'Doin' It Right Now' (Atlantic green/orange, stereo) - Von Freeman, John Young, Sam Jones, Jimmy Cobb. What a great lineup !

Warming enormously to Von's quirky Chicago sound. Really nice LP - recommended !

I didn't realise Von had a "Chicago" sound. I always assumed he had a very individual, highly penetrating, sound and that there wasn't a bunch of other Chicago sax players with a similar approach. Looking for some hints, here; I have much to learn about Chicago stuff.

MG

I can hear some Von Freeman in some of Johnny Griffin's playing - or vice versa.

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Al Cohn's Tones (Realm/Savoy)

Two sessions: 1) with George Wallington, Tommy Potter and Tiny Khan

2) with Nick Travis, Horace Silver, Curley Russell and Max Roach

Anyone know the recording dates for these? (No information given on the album.)

Session 1 - July 29, 1950

Session 2 - June 23, 1953

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I didn't realise Von had a "Chicago" sound. I always assumed he had a very individual, highly penetrating, sound and that there wasn't a bunch of other Chicago sax players with a similar approach. Looking for some hints, here; I have much to learn about Chicago stuff.

MG

Well, I feel a bit out of my league waxing poetic about Chicago and its sound with the likes of Chuck Nessa, Larry Kart and John Litweiler hanging around, but I'll give it a shot. To my ears, Von is inextricably linked to Chicago, but he also transcends some of those basic characteristics on a regular basis. When I hear him play I hear the entire history of jazz in the course of a chorus, and it's obvious that his experience with Charlie Parker and any other number of jazz luminaries (a group to which Von rightfully belongs as well) have imbued in him an incredible understanding of the whole jazz lexicon. With that said, Von was a contemporary and colleague of Gene Ammons and Clifford Jordan and Johnny Griffin - and that kind of peer influence can't be understated in terms of trying to draw some kind of picture of what a Chicago sound might be. Von also played with Sun Ra and Andrew Hill, and I think the fact that Von turned into such a unique, singular player, is no mistake given the wide range of musical experience available in a city like Chicago. So, I suppose my convoluted thesis here is that Von simultaneously reflects and transcends certain aspects of Chicago in terms of tone and approach. There are tunes I've heard Von play dozens of times and every time he plays them differently, and every time I could identify little strains or phrases that I could attribute to the influence of Chicago or to any number of nationally recognized musicians.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I thought I'd try.

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Al Cohn's Tones (Realm/Savoy)

Two sessions: 1) with George Wallington, Tommy Potter and Tiny Khan

2) with Nick Travis, Horace Silver, Curley Russell and Max Roach

Anyone know the recording dates for these? (No information given on the album.)

Session 1 - July 29, 1950

Session 2 - June 23, 1953

Thanks! :tup

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Von Freeman 'Doin' It Right Now' (Atlantic green/orange, stereo) - Von Freeman, John Young, Sam Jones, Jimmy Cobb. What a great lineup !

Warming enormously to Von's quirky Chicago sound. Really nice LP - recommended !

I didn't realise Von had a "Chicago" sound. I always assumed he had a very individual, highly penetrating, sound and that there wasn't a bunch of other Chicago sax players with a similar approach. Looking for some hints, here; I have much to learn about Chicago stuff.

MG

I can hear some Von Freeman in some of Johnny Griffin's playing - or vice versa.

Exactly !

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Von Freeman 'Doin' It Right Now' (Atlantic green/orange, stereo) - Von Freeman, John Young, Sam Jones, Jimmy Cobb. What a great lineup !

Warming enormously to Von's quirky Chicago sound. Really nice LP - recommended !

I didn't realise Von had a "Chicago" sound. I always assumed he had a very individual, highly penetrating, sound and that there wasn't a bunch of other Chicago sax players with a similar approach. Looking for some hints, here; I have much to learn about Chicago stuff.

MG

I can hear some Von Freeman in some of Johnny Griffin's playing - or vice versa.

Well, I feel a bit out of my league waxing poetic about Chicago and its sound with the likes of Chuck Nessa, Larry Kart and John Litweiler hanging around, but I'll give it a shot. To my ears, Von is inextricably linked to Chicago, but he also transcends some of those basic characteristics on a regular basis. When I hear him play I hear the entire history of jazz in the course of a chorus, and it's obvious that his experience with Charlie Parker and any other number of jazz luminaries (a group to which Von rightfully belongs as well) have imbued in him an incredible understanding of the whole jazz lexicon. With that said, Von was a contemporary and colleague of Gene Ammons and Clifford Jordan and Johnny Griffin - and that kind of peer influence can't be understated in terms of trying to draw some kind of picture of what a Chicago sound might be. Von also played with Sun Ra and Andrew Hill, and I think the fact that Von turned into such a unique, singular player, is no mistake given the wide range of musical experience available in a city like Chicago. So, I suppose my convoluted thesis here is that Von simultaneously reflects and transcends certain aspects of Chicago in terms of tone and approach. There are tunes I've heard Von play dozens of times and every time he plays them differently, and every time I could identify little strains or phrases that I could attribute to the influence of Chicago or to any number of nationally recognized musicians.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this but I thought I'd try.

Ah, a misunderstanding, I see.

I can certainly see the resemblances between Von's playing and Griff's or Jordan's - and other Chicago musicians. But I wasn't talking about the way he plays; it's the way he makes his sax sound that seems completely unique to me. And that's what I thought Paul was talking about.

MG

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Originally released as "Hush" under Duke Pearson's name (on Jazz Line, one of his earliest lead dates, and it's a silly rare and $$$ record), this is an early 70s pressing on Polydor.

A great 1962 set with two trumpets, no sax, interesting tone. Sudel is the standout, reminds me of Pearson's majestic "Jeanine".

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Sergio Mendes - The Beat of Brasil - Atlantic stereo

US issue of early session for Brasilian Philips.

The perfect record for today's young couple drinking chianti and baking brie after a long day at the office, as a pacific breeze wafts through an open window.

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