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There was a Ray's jazz shop in Charing Cross too, or it's the name of Dobells?

Ray's being in Covent Garden.

Shaftesbury Avenue (or did it move from an earlier location in Covent Garden?). There was a folk and blues store in the basement.

Now spinning Herbie Hancock 'Maiden Voyage' (BN NY USA mono, DG side 1)

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There was a Ray's jazz shop in Charing Cross too, or it's the name of Dobells?

Ray's being in Covent Garden.

Shaftesbury Avenue (or did it move from an earlier location in Covent Garden?). There was a folk and blues store in the basement.

Now spinning Herbie Hancock 'Maiden Voyage' (BN NY USA mono, DG side 1)

Thanks guys. I remember the Ray's that was in a corner building with two entrances. A bit of nostalgia over here too.

Funny, I am thinking to spin that Herbie, after Morgan's Search Of the new Land, NY mono, will end.

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There was a Ray's jazz shop in Charing Cross too, or it's the name of Dobells?

Yep, Porcy - 'Ray's Jazz' is actually located within the Foyles Bookshop (big book store) on Charing Cross Road, just up from Leicester Square tube. Very nice place to visit - best capuccino stop in London, recommended. This store is run by the son of the former owner of 'Rays' which used to be on Shaftesbuty Avenue until the mid-90s. 'Dobell's' used to be at a site on the opposite side of the road to Foyles but closed back in the early 80s at the time of the major recession. A legendary haunt of visisting US players apparently and Doug Dobell the owner used to dabble in vinyl with the '77' record label. He also did a Joe Harriott release for Melodisc.

Doug Dobell was also the boss of Blue Note UK, when Liberty strted it up in 1967. He brought the price of Blue Notes down big time. My hero!

MG

PS it was a 22% reduction!

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He brought the price of Blue Notes down big time. My hero!

MG

PS it was a 22% reduction!

Weren't they over £3 prior to that? (or was it £2 10s 6d :g ).. In any case, they cost very serious dosh back then, in relative terms. No wonder there were never too many over here - the 47W63rd/NY USA pressings in particular. Maybe the French got a bit of a price break, as there seems to be more of them over there..

Now playing Gilles Peterson 'Impressed - Vol 1' (UK Universal 2LP set, LP1). Ronnie Ross :tup

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He brought the price of Blue Notes down big time. My hero!

MG

PS it was a 22% reduction!

Weren't they over £3 prior to that? (or was it £2 10s 6d :g ).. In any case, they cost very serious dosh back then, in relative terms. No wonder there were never too many over here - the 47W63rd/NY USA pressings in particular. Maybe the French got a bit of a price break, as there seems to be more of them over there..

Now playing Gilles Peterson 'Impressed - Vol 1' (UK Universal 2LP set, LP1). Ronnie Ross :tup

Although I still have British-bought Blue Notes from that era, I don't remember what they cost. But I do have an imported Riverside (Monk's Music) from the late 60s on which you can still see 42/- written faintly in pencil!

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BillF,

seems that my stuff lacks the following tracks:

1 "Cheryl"("Blues in Orbit") Side 2: 2 "The Underdog" ("Isabel") 3 "General Assembly"("Barracuda")

Assuming that "General Assembly"("Barracuda") is Time Of The Barracudas on the cd, may you provide some details about the other tracks?

"Cheryl" and "Underdog" are by a quartet whose personnel is given as Gil Evans (arranger/piano), Jimmy Knepper (trombone), "probably" Bob Cranshaw (bass) and "probably" Charlie Persip (drums). The recording date is given as c.1963-64.

My good friend, Brian Priestley (name dropping again!) says this in his learned sleeve note:

"The existence of two Gil Evans quartet pieces comes as something of a surprise. Jimmy Knepper, who played with Gil's working band of 1960, is recognizably the trombonist and, since the names of Cranshaw and Persip have been added to the collective personnel, there seems no reason to doubt that it is they on bass and drums. However, the track which was code-named 'Isabel' is actually a song by Al Cohn called 'The Underdog' (with words by Dave Frishberg, the composer of 'I'm Hip' and 'Peel Me a Grape') although Cohn's original instrumental version went under the name 'Ah Moore'. And, finally, what was issued in the States as 'Blues in Orbit' is not 'Blues in Orbit' but Charlie Parker's amazingly inventive line 'Cheryl'. It's fascinating to think of this as a reduction of a full orchestral Gil Evans arrangement, and indeed the bass-part after the opening theme and before the out-chorus makes it hard not to think in these terms. Is it taking guesswork too far to imagine this as a sketch for the album Gil was to have made for Verve featuring Bill Evans, but which was never recorded?"

Thanks.

Sounds tasty, do you know if these tunes are available in some other form, a part the twofer?

The second record was originally issued in the US as Verve V6-8883. The quartet pieces with trombone have not been reissued at Gil's request. Most common personnel listing has Tony Studd, Paul Chambers and Clifford Jarvis. The lp version of Spoonful was shortened by about 5 minutes.

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Wow. I didn't think anyone knew of them outside of Philly. Is that Bill Lee on Vibes?

close: it's Bill Lewis, also to be found on the sublime Philly Jazz album "The River" with Khan Jamal. not as good as "Infinity" by Khan Jamal though, which is playing now.

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He brought the price of Blue Notes down big time. My hero!

MG

PS it was a 22% reduction!

Weren't they over £3 prior to that? (or was it £2 10s 6d :g ).. In any case, they cost very serious dosh back then, in relative terms. No wonder there were never too many over here - the 47W63rd/NY USA pressings in particular. Maybe the French got a bit of a price break, as there seems to be more of them over there..

Now playing Gilles Peterson 'Impressed - Vol 1' (UK Universal 2LP set, LP1). Ronnie Ross :tup

Although I still have British-bought Blue Notes from that era, I don't remember what they cost. But I do have an imported Riverside (Monk's Music) from the late 60s on which you can still see 42/- written faintly in pencil!

Blue Notes were 57/6 (£2.875) in the early sixties. Riverside/Jazzland were, as Bill noted, 42/- (£2.10). British manufactured popular 12" LPs (inc jazz) were 32/- (£1.60). After Doug Dobell set up BN UK, the price came down to 45/- (£2.25), which was very competitive with what Riverside had been sold for (though they'd gone bust quite a while by 1967). And UK manufactured LPs had gone up in the meantime - though I can't remember the price in '67; something like 37/6 (£1.875) I guess.

Buying a Blue Note in the early sixties was a bit like buying a Rolls Royce - you knew you were getting top quality, but at a price that hardly anyone could afford. There was no competition when it came to choosing between Jimmy Smith or Ray Charles; Ray won all the time. We used to take two LPs into the listening booths at HMV in Oxford Street, listen to the Jimmy Smith and buy the other. I'm sure the guys behind the counter knew what my mates and I were up to, but they didn't mind.

So, if you've got original monos of "Midnight special", "Back at the Chicken Shack", "All day long" or "Home Cookin'" which you bought in Britain, watch out! It could have had my sticky teenaged fingers all over it!

MG

PS as I recollect, Jazz Journal used to state the price of each record reviewed.

PPS for comparison, my wages when I started work in 1960 were £3.95 a week.

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Wow. I didn't think anyone knew of them outside of Philly. Is that Bill Lee on Vibes?

close: it's Bill Lewis, also to be found on the sublime Philly Jazz album "The River" with Khan Jamal. not as good as "Infinity" by Khan Jamal though, which is playing now.

f85216unkw1.jpg

D'oh! I meant Bill Lewis. My brain wasn't working last night. Thanks, I'll have to track that Arpeggio LP down.

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