The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Unit Structures was a little late - 1966 - so its first edition was with New York USA labels. In a Liberty pressing I think ! My copy has the Bluenote label with Division of United Artist in the spot where Liberty is usually seen. I'd never noticed this before because I friend had given it to me years ago and I wasn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't think I have other examples of this old style Bluenote label with United Artist on it. The cover btw, has the 43 West 61st St. address on it. Maybe somebody could help out more with this, but as I understand it this switch occurred shortly after Transamerica/UA bought out Liberty. This was an interim label design between the blue/white Liberty label and the black/cerulean UA label. I've had the Cecil in this version, as well as a plain ol' blue/white Liberty, before settling on a NY Mono. (no, I didn't keep all three!) I don't think that was uncommon. I just checked my copies of Grant Green's "Visions" (84373), "Shades of Green" (84413),"Final comedown" (84415), "Live at the Lighthouse" (037) and McGriff's "Black pearl" (84374), Lou Donaldson's "Sophisticated Lou" (024) and they're all like that. Lou's "Sassy soul strut" (109) is the blue & black label and has the new Blue Note trademark on the front cover. I don't have originals of the few LPs before "Visions", so I can't tell when it started, but it looks like there was a period of about two to three years when LPs with the traditional BN label, but a div of United Artists, not Liberty, were coming out. It's interesting that this design even went into the period when BNs were getting UA numbers. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 speakers corner edition 180g - superb sound quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Have you read this? http://kleene.ss.uci.edu/~rmay/Bluenote.html Unit Structures was a little late - 1966 - so its first edition was with New York USA labels. In a Liberty pressing I think ! My copy has the Bluenote label with Division of United Artist in the spot where Liberty is usually seen. I'd never noticed this before because I friend had given it to me years ago and I wasn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't think I have other examples of this old style Bluenote label with United Artist on it. The cover btw, has the 43 West 61st St. address on it. Maybe somebody could help out more with this, but as I understand it this switch occurred shortly after Transamerica/UA bought out Liberty. This was an interim label design between the blue/white Liberty label and the black/cerulean UA label. I've had the Cecil in this version, as well as a plain ol' blue/white Liberty, before settling on a NY Mono. (no, I didn't keep all three!) I don't think that was uncommon. I just checked my copies of Grant Green's "Visions" (84373), "Shades of Green" (84413),"Final comedown" (84415), "Live at the Lighthouse" (037) and McGriff's "Black pearl" (84374), Lou Donaldson's "Sophisticated Lou" (024) and they're all like that. Lou's "Sassy soul strut" (109) is the blue & black label and has the new Blue Note trademark on the front cover. I don't have originals of the few LPs before "Visions", so I can't tell when it started, but it looks like there was a period of about two to three years when LPs with the traditional BN label, but a div of United Artists, not Liberty, were coming out. It's interesting that this design even went into the period when BNs were getting UA numbers. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 As Long As There's Music - Charlie Haden and Hampton Hawes (Artist House) Some of my favorite Charlie Haden - and Hampton Hawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers, Drum Suite (Philips) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 The Sound of Ipanema - Carlos Lyra and Paul Winter - Columbia 2 eye stereo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Have you read this? http://kleene.ss.uci.edu/~rmay/Bluenote.html I hadn't seen it before. It doesn't appear to be comprehensive, however. No discussion of LPs with Lex/W63rd labels on either side; no mention of the distinction between Liberty/UA and UA; or between UA and Liberty United - ie the ones made after the management buy-out of the company from Transamerica; no mention of the LT series. And point 8 is definitely wrong; I'm sure he is describing reissues. I was buying these funky things (which he admits not to having) as they came out; they all came out on the traditional BN LP label. I have seen reissues of this material as he describes them. The other explanation is that both label designs were used for originals of different albums in the same timeframe - that seems to me to be so highly unlikely as to be dismissable. Point 3 is wrong too. I can see what he's done. He's got himself a 1967/68 Blue Note/Liberty catalogue and you can see at the end of that that the three highest numbers (4253, 4255 & 4263) all have sleeves designed by Liberty - the ones that do for mono and stereo releases by just shuffling the sleeve up to cover the stereo number. What he hasn't got is the 31 December 1968 addendum, which list all the albums that had issued subsequent to the main catalogue. And these new issues included 4203 4212 4218 4230 4232 4238 4242 4243 5244 4249 But in any case, had he looked at some of the funky stuff, he'd have found Division of Liberty sleeves already issued in the 1967/8 catalogue: 4206 (I think, but it's pretty faint) 4222 4228 4239 4240 4245 4246 and in fact 4252 has a Liberty designed jacket. I don't have all of those, but the ones I do have that I know are original because I bought them when they came out, have a Division of Liberty Records inc on the label. It would be good if someone who really has a big BN collection, which coveres the Soul Jazz side of BN as well as the Hard Bop side - like Porcy or Brownie (quick before he vanishes!) - would do a more thorough study of this. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 As Long As There's Music - Charlie Haden and Hampton Hawes (Artist House) Some of my favorite Charlie Haden - and Hampton Hawes This was a new purchase for me yesterday. It still had the booklet in it and it's in great shape. The vinyl looks and sounds like it was hardly played at all. I could listen to Charlie Haden's bass all day. His tone and choice of notes are sublime to me. This morning it was Herbie Hancock's Speak Like a Child (Bluenote) Liberty pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Andrew Hill 'Lift Every Voice' (BN Liberty blue/white stereo). Great sounding copy ! Art Blakey 'At The Jazz Corner Of The World Vol 2' (BN 47W63rd DG mono) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Early this afternoon: Lou Donaldson - Everything I play is funky - BN orig Lou Donaldson - Back street - Muse orig Stanley Turrentine - New time shuffle - BN UK issue MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Walter Wanderley - When It Was Done - CTI/A&M One of his best. It sounds like an MPS album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Elvin Jones 'Poly-Currents' (BN Liberty blue/white stereo) Edited December 29, 2007 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Grateful Dead - Anthem of the Sun - (WB green label, I assume this is the 1st) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Alvin "Red" Tyler - Heritage - Rounder UK Bu Pleasant - Ms Bu - Muse promo Red Holloway - Red Holloway & Co - Concord Jazz (Bellaphon) Jimmy McGriff & Groove Holmes - Come together - GM (twofer reissue) MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Tyrone Washington 'Natural Essence' (German BN Liberty, blue/white stereo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Willis Jackson - Headed and gutted - Muse orig Willis Jackson - West Africa - Muse orig MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Leon Spencer - Where I'm coming from - Prestige orig Leon Spencer - Bad walkin' woman - Prestige orig MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Raymond Boni & Claude Bernard - Pot-pourri Pour Parce Que - (Hat Hut) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Robert Wood - Tarot - (Edici) Been really enjoying this one lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Lee Morgan's Live at the Lighthouse (Bluenote) Liberty The inside cover says it's a United Artist product, so the BN labels must have been some of those left over after the change in ownership. It's a hot album though. Probably one of my favorite Lee Morgan albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Some Horace Silver to wrap up the year: 'The Jody Grind' (BN Liberty mono) 'The Tokyo Blues' (BN NY USA mono) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'm currently reading the Bill Evans bio How My Heart Sings so last night I listened to Kind of Blue (Columbia) Six Eye Mono. Then I followed it with an unrelated album, 7 X Wilder - Bob Brookmeyer 4 (Verve) orig. mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Rendell/Carr Quintet 'Dusk Fire' (UK Columbia Lansdowne, mono) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Rendell/Carr Quintet 'Change Is' (UK Columbia Lansdowne, stereo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Shorty Rogers - Wherever the Five Winds Blow - RCA Spain (mono). Liner notes by a meteorologist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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