Leeway Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Was this one on the Shank Mosaic? No - just the earlier sessions on the Mosaic. 'Michelle' is also absent. There's mention in the 'Deep In A Dream' book that at the time these LPs were put together Richard Bock was involved in putting out stuff for the Muzak Corporation. Baker's presence on the sessions was also a favour to Baker, who was pretty well destitute apparently and could hardly play. Baker went begging in there for work to get drug money. Now spinning: Pat Martino 'East' - Prestige blue label with suspect piano.. Interesting information-- I didn't know that Bock worked for Muzak, but that news doesn't come as a surprise, considering some of the "product" he put out. I checked De Valk's bio of Chet and here's what he has to say: Soon after reaching Los Angeles, at the end of 1965, an offer for a series of commercial records comes in: with the Mariachi Brass [....] and two with the Carmel Strings. Chet consents, and in the next three years he is also co-soloist on five recordings of pop hits produced by Bud Shank, and a record with Joe Pass besides [....] Most appear, awkwardy enough, on the Pacific Label--now called World Pacific--on which Chet had scored his first successes years earlier. They are dreadful records, but it is not true--as many have claimed--that not a single note of jazz can be heard on them. Chet honestly strives to make the best of his infrequent solos. He himself later characterized the records as 'outrageous, terrible', Bud SHank who, since his first studio session with Chet in 1953, is less hard on them: 'I wasn't very picky. You had no choice then. We simply had to make those commercial records. We needed the money. At that time, in the second half of the 60s, nobody was making jazz records. And if I hadn't accepted the work, I wouldn't have made any records at all [...] I was not ashamed of the records, but I was not proud of them either.. Regarding "Magical Mystery," De Valk says: In April 1968 he was still recording--the album 'Magical Mystery' with Bid Shank, which consists of uninspired Beatles covers-- and then the curtain falls I should have noted that there are two fluegel hornists on the LP, Baker and a Gary Barone, perhaps to cover for Baker. I wouldn't put this LP in the same category as Mariachi Brass or Carmel Strings-it's not nearly that bad. Shank preserves it from becoming mere commercial fodder-- but just. De Valk doesn't say any more about the Baker/Pass session (which was that??). From what I've read, Pass was just emerging from his own addiction problems, coming out of Synanon a few years earlier; Baker, of course, probably never kicked his habit. Quote
brownie Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Leeway wrote: De Valk doesn't say any more about the Baker/Pass session (which was that??). From what I've read, Pass was just emerging from his own addiction problems, coming out of Synanon a few years earlier; Baker, of course, probably never kicked his habit. This was the Joe Pass 'A Sign of the Times' album on World Pacific with Chet Baker and Frank Capp on drums. Never heard that one and stopped searching for it after getting acquainted with the Chet Baker and the Mariachi Brass albums. Quote
Leeway Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Leeway wrote: De Valk doesn't say any more about the Baker/Pass session (which was that??). From what I've read, Pass was just emerging from his own addiction problems, coming out of Synanon a few years earlier; Baker, of course, probably never kicked his habit. This was the Joe Pass 'A Sign of the Times' album on World Pacific with Chet Baker and Frank Capp on drums. Never heard that one and stopped searching for it after getting acquainted with the Chet Baker and the Mariachi Brass albums. Thanks Brownie. I've never spotted that album either. I can't believe it would rate as low as the Mariachi stuff, if for no other reason than Pass's playing. There must have been a strange atmosphere at that session- what with Pass recovering from a long period of drug addiction, and Baker still a notorious addict. Quote
Leeway Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 (edited) Latest up on the turntable: More Miles. I hadn't heard this one before: Initial impressions: Intense, chugging funk, but despite its surface reference to funk, still an introspective, controlled soundscape, like the soundtrack to a bad dream. I also had the feeling that this is a soundscape rooted in the drug experience. The electric guitar, not the trumpet, has primacy here. There is a fine portrait of Miles inside the gatefold cover, looking like a particularly hip bantam weight boxer. Then [the earth below, the sky above]: Alice's piano playing is capable of intense power. Her playing on the harp is fascinating but, I think the instrument has certain sound limitations that can't be overcome. Sanders appears on one cut, "Ohnedaruth," playing the bass clarinet. Jimmy Garrison, bass, and Rashied Ali, drums, provide intense collaboration. This is on a black label Impulse, with "Impulse!" in a red and green border. I can't keep the Impulse labelography straight. Is this an original issue or a later one? Edited September 12, 2004 by Leeway Quote
paul secor Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Art Pepper: Art Is the Art Vol. 1 (Nadja-Trio Japan) - Omegatape sides Quote
Leeway Posted September 12, 2004 Report Posted September 12, 2004 Finished up the afternoon rocking out: MGM Mono LP. Eric Burdon has one of those rock voices that compels attention. Then the Godfathers of Heavy Rock (on Atlantic LP); if this doesn't move you, check your pulse, you might be dead: Then another Chet Baker connection (to use a word B-) see post above): There's a picture of Chet on the inner sleeve, looking for all the world like a dead cowboy; he plays a couple of brief trumpet solos on "Shipbuilding." Quote
paul secor Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 The Complete Johnny Dodds (RCA Fr.) - 2 LPs A bit of a misnomer - These are all of his RCA recordings (with the exception of one take of "My Little Isabel"). A great listen. Quote
alejo Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Cal Tjader: San Francisco Moods Quote
Leeway Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Art Pepper: Art Is the Art Vol. 1 (Nadja-Trio Japan) - Omegatape sides I'm a big Art Pepper fan. What can you tell us about the performance and the recording you mentioned? Quote
ajf67 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Art Pepper: Art Is the Art Vol. 1 (Nadja-Trio Japan) - Omegatape sides I'm a big Art Pepper fan. What can you tell us about the performance and the recording you mentioned? From the liner notes on my Blue Note LP of Pepper's Omega Alpha, which was released in 1980: "For some reason known only to Imperial executives of the day, the performances were released by Omegatape, one of the earliest U.S. firms engaged in the manufacture of prerecorded 1/4-track stereo tapes (now called open-reel) for the serious audiophile. The recordings were not issued in disc form at the time and this, coupled with the relatively limited sales enjoyed by 1/4-track tapes, accounts for the extreme rarity of these vintage performances. Combining as they do all the material released on Omegatape OMT 7020 and ST 2030, the present volumes mark the first U.S. release of these recordings in their original stereo configuration. An additional bonus is the inclusion in the second set, Omega/Beta, of several alternate takes: Fascinatin' Rythm, Begin The Beguine and Webb City While Pepper retains only a faint recollection of the details of the recordings, the product of a single session held in Hollywood's Audio Arts studios, he has a vivid impression of the music made that day, and recalls the session as having come off very well, primarily because the supporting players -- pianist Carl Perkins, bassist Ben Tucker and drummer Chuck Flores -- had been working regularly as a group in various local clubs. The session proceeded with the swiftness and smoothness of a club date, he recalled, few tunes requiring more than a single take" Side One: Surf Ride Body and Soul Too Close For Comfort Side Two: Fascinatin' Rhythm Begin The Beguine Webb City April 1, 1957 Quote
Leeway Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Thanks AJF 67. If I understand this all correctly, the Blue Note "Omega Alpha" is the same as the "Art is the Art" that Paul Secor mentioned (?). I think I have the BN LP somewhere in my shelves, but I didn't connect it ot the other title. I'll have to go hunt it up. Quote
Leeway Posted September 13, 2004 Report Posted September 13, 2004 Continuing my travels through the highways and byways of Miles Davis Country... Columbia CS 9594- "360 Sound"--whatever did that mean? ...and the benighted rock paths of my youth: I'm a big Traffic/Stevie Winwood fan- one of rock's great vocalists. United Artists UAS 5504 Quote
wolff Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Posted September 14, 2004 Ronnie Mathews: Roots, Branches & Dances (Bee Hive) Sal Nistico: Neo/Nistico (Bee Hive) Quote
ajf67 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Thanks AJF 67. If I understand this all correctly, the Blue Note "Omega Alpha" is the same as the "Art is the Art" that Paul Secor mentioned (?). I think I have the BN LP somewhere in my shelves, but I didn't connect it ot the other title. I'll have to go hunt it up. I checked the Pepper discography in "Straight Life,"and it has a diofferent date for the Omegatape sessions and some more titles. It lists the date as January 1958, The Art Pepper Quartet, with the same personnel of Carl Perkins (p), Ben Tucker (b) and Chuck Flores (d). Tunes: "Holiday Flight" (5:12) -- issued on Omegatape OMT 7020, Baccarola G80116ZT, Onyx ORI219 and Najda [J] PA-3140 "Too Close For Comfort" (6:13) -- same as above "Webb City" (4:34) -- Najda [J] PA-3141 "Webb City" (4:47) -- Same as "Holiday Flight" "Surf Ride" (4:45) -- same as "Holiday Flight" "Body and Soul" (4:23) -- same as "Holiday Flight" "Begin the Beguine" (6:26) -- Najda [J] PA-3141 "Begin the Beguine" (7:24) -- same as "Holiday Flight" "The Breeze and I" (3:34) -- Omegatape ST-2030, Overseas [J] ULS-1534-V, Onyx ORI 219, Najda [J] PA-3141 "Without a Song" (7:39) -- Same as "The Breeze and I" "Fascinatin' Rhythm" (4:23) -- Same as "The Breeze and I" "Fascinatin' Rhythm" (4:02) -- Najda [J] PA-3140 "Long Ago and Far Away" (4:09) -- Same as "The Breeze and I" "I Can't Believe That You're In Love With Me" (5:38) -- Same as "The Breeze and I" "Summertime" (7:26) -- Unissued "Summertime" (6:34) -- Najda [J] PA-3140 "Blues Rock" (2:34) -- Unissued "Rock Blues" (2:38) -- Unissued Quote
Leeway Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 The plot thickens- from "The Art of Pepper" website: SESSION 21-APR 1/57- ART PEPPER QUARTET Art Pepper(as)Carl Perkins(p)Ben Tucker(b)Chuck Flores(d) Holiday Flight Too Close for Comfort Long Ago and Far Away Begin the Begine Begin the Begine (Alt Tk) I Can't Believe You're Still In Love with Me Webb City Webb City (Alt Tk) Summertime Fascinating Rhythm Fascinating Rhythm (Alt Tk) Body And Soul Without a Song The Breeze and I Surf Ride CD Release Art Pepper/Modern Art Vol 2 The Complete Aladdin Recordings(BN7468482) CD Release Art Pepper/The Art Of Pepper Vol 3 The Complete Aladdin Recordings (Blue Note CDP7468532) The music on this Blue Note LP has always been somewhat obscure. Originally released by Omegatape only on pre-recorded tapes, it did not make its debut on an American LP until this 1980 album came out. It was a strange twist of fate, for the music for altoist Art Pepper (who was in one of his prime periods) was in top form throughout the date, playing "Surf Ride," "Webb City" and five familiar standards with pianist Carl Perkins, bassist Ben Tucker and drummer Chuck Flores. Highlights include "Surf Ride," "Fascinatin' Rhythm" and "Body and Soul." -- Scott Yanow, All Music Guide Art Pepper website Click on discography link. This is getting complicated I'm too tired tonight but will try to research it a little more tomorrow. Quote
paul secor Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 (edited) Thanks AJF 67. If I understand this all correctly, the Blue Note "Omega Alpha" is the same as the "Art is the Art" that Paul Secor mentioned (?). I think I have the BN LP somewhere in my shelves, but I didn't connect it ot the other title. I'll have to go hunt it up. I believe that Art Is the Art and Alpha Omega contain material from the same session. I have a second volume on Trio with alternate takes of three tunes and four additional performances. Trio 3140 - Vol. 1 Side one: Summertime Too Close for Comfort Webb City Holiday Flight Side two: Begin the Beguine Surf Ride Body and Soul Fascinatin' Rhythm Trio 3141 - Vol. 2 Side one: The Breeze and I Without a Song Long Ago and Far Away Fascinatin' Rhythm Side two: I Can't Believe That You're in Love with Me Webb City Begin the Beguine The discography that I have at hand, Bruyninckx, lists the Blue Note (April, 1957)as a separate session from the Trio (January, 1958), but that's probably because of conflicting statements made by Art Pepper. In the liner notes for the Trio issues, done by Pete Welding, Pepper remembered the session as predating his Contemporary recording Meets the Rhythm Section, which would place it sometime before January 17, 1957. He also mentioned that the recording took place shortly before pianist Carl Perkins' death, which would place it in early 1958. This may account for the duplicate listing by Bruyninckx. I'm not a discographer by any stretch of the imagination, so perhaps someone else here can provide a more definitive answer. Addition - Posted this before I saw the previous two posts. They probably provide more definitive information than I have. Edited September 14, 2004 by paul secor Quote
paul secor Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Eddie Johnson: Indian Summer (Nessa) One of the things I enjoy most about the Vinyl Forum is that I'm moved to listen to LPs that I've ignored for a while. Listening this time, I was struck by John Young's playing. Good record - perhaps a reissue someday, Chuck? Quote
ajf67 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 One of the things I enjoy most about the Vinyl Forum is that I'm moved to listen to LPs that I've ignored for a while. Same here. Quote
ajf67 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Mosaic LP of the Benny Morton and Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets Quote
Matthew Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 The Fabulous Dorseys in Hi-fi. Vol. 1. A Columbia "six-eye" that has a fantastic soundstage, you can hear the instruments layered on top of each other. Just wonderful, traditional, Big Band music, that is great to play at night. Quote
ajf67 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Chico Hamilton Quintet on Pacific Jazz PJ-1225 This is really beautiful music, with Frad Katz on cello and Paul Horn on alto, flute and clarinet. Great condition mono original that sounds really full and lush. Quote
porcy62 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy "I Only Have Eyes For You" ECM. I simply forgot how many joy this record gave to me during the late 80's Quote
sidewinder Posted September 14, 2004 Report Posted September 14, 2004 I'll have to pull that one out of the racks porcy62, I agree - got to see that band around the time the ECMs came out, what a show that was. Great memories ! Now playing John Cameron Quartet 'Off Centre' (Deram) and 'Poetry and Jazz 250' Michael Garrick Sextet et al (Argo 2LPs). On a bit of a British jazz kick tonight. Quote
Leeway Posted September 15, 2004 Report Posted September 15, 2004 Continuing my travels through Miles Davis Country: Columbia FC 40023- OK, not one of Miles' great albums, or even very good albums, but there are some good cuts on it, including Lauper's "Time After Time," a song which Miles seems to have become fixated on-- still, it shows Miles still could turn out a beautiful ballad. My biggest gripe with this album is the use (over use, really) of synthesizers; this would be a pretty good LP without the synthesizers. Then on to one of my favorite artists: Liberty Pressing. Quote
ajf67 Posted September 15, 2004 Report Posted September 15, 2004 Lee Morgan Candy Classic Records mono re-issue. Put it on thanks to the E-Bay Craziness thread. Quote
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