Teasing the Korean Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 (edited) 56 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I'm not sure, Jim. I just checked, and Oliver Nelson doesn't get a credit on the album sleeve. OTOH, no one is credited for the arrangements, so it certainly could've been ON. Ah, there you go. Question answered by our resident OST expert. Thanks, @Teasing the Korean! Welcome! The film and album versions are completely different listening experiences. The LP sounds like Gato; the film sounds like Oliver. Unfortunately, the CD of the film version contains a lot of short cues with glacial pauses between. Even worse, some of this silence is embedded in the individual tracks. It is like you are hearing the reference disc from which to compile an album. It has zero sense of momentum or development. So, I loaded the whole thing into ProTools, tightened up the tracks, and in some cases, combined related short cues to create longer tracks. My version provides an infinitely better listening experience, but I was not paid, and I don't think it should be the listener's job to finish someone else's album. Still, it was worth doing, in this case. Edited May 20 by Teasing the Korean Quote
JSngry Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 I'm wondering how iny mind that I've always had Oliver Nelson attached to this session as arranger. I don't see his name on the original LP, but... it's in Discogs, and maybe enenin the ZDB review? So where did his name get added? Per https://quartetrecords.com/product/last-tango-in-paris/ The successful album released in 1972 by United Artists Records was in fact a re-recording made in New York with great musicians, and a real gem in terms of sound recording. It was first released on CD in the mid-nineties by Ryko, who added to the album about 25 minutes from the original film recording in mono (Varèse Sarabande reissued this same program a few years later). For this edition, we have been fortunate to find the original 8-channel multi-tracks with the complete original film recording, made in Rome. Listening to all the material prepared by Barbieri for the film (orchestrated and conducted by Oliver Nelson)—an hour of music on 49 different tracks (of which Bertolucci used only about twenty minutes)—adds a wide perspective to this marvelous score heard for the first time in pristine stereo sound. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 2 hours ago, Pim said: Such a beautiful record It is really good. Nice Japanese Paddle Wheel promo! Quote
HutchFan Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 (edited) Next up: Harold Ousley - The People's Groove (Muse, 1977) Promo copy Tenor & Alto Saxophone – Harold Ousley Trumpet – Gary Chandler (track A1 only) Guitar – Bob Rose, Nate Stokes Organ – Bobby Forrester (tracks: A2, B2) Piano – Neal Creque (tracks: A3, B3), Norman Simmons (tracks: A4, B1) Bass – Jay Leonhart (tracks: A3, B3), Ray McKinny (tracks: A1), Victor Sproles (tracks: A4, B1) Drums – Al Dreares (tracks: A1), Jim Young (tracks: A3, B3), Steve Butler (2) (tracks: A2, A4, B1 to B2) Congas – Ralph Dorsey (tracks: A2, A4, B1) Percussion – Danny Barrajanos (tracks: A3, B3), Steve Kroon (tracks: A2, A4, B1) Vocals – Edna Holt (tracks: A2, A4, B1), Holly Hamilton (tracks: A4, B1) it looks like this LP was assembled from three sessions -- even though it doesn't have the feel of an "odds and ends" album. Quite the opposite: I think it coheres very well. No dates are listed on the sleeve, but it appears that Ousley re-used two cuts from The Kid! (Cobblestone, 1972) on The People's Groove. Tracks A3 ("Me & Bobby McGhee," edited) and B3 ("The Kid!," identical) appear on both LPs, and the personnel is the same as well. Per Discogs, Ousley recorded these two cuts on 03/28/1972. Does anyone have more insight into the recording dates for the other five cuts on The People's Groove? Edited May 20 by HutchFan Quote
Pim Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 46 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: It is really good. Nice Japanese Paddle Wheel promo! It was pressed by King records and sounds amazing. You must have the original India Navigation Clifford? Does that one also has that sound like you’re there in the studios? The interaction between Chico and Cecil is lovely Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 to be honest, I haven't spun it (my original) in quite a few years, so I need to revisit for some audio specifics. Quote
jazzcorner Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 (edited) Verve MV 2607 Japan 1977 - Oscar Peterson Trio " On The Town" - rec. 1958 Edited May 20 by jazzcorner typo Quote
jazzcorner Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Next up: Harold Ousley - The People's Groove (Muse, 1977) Promo copy Tenor & Alto Saxophone – Harold Ousley Trumpet – Gary Chandler (track A1 only) Guitar – Bob Rose, Nate Stokes Organ – Bobby Forrester (tracks: A2, B2) Piano – Neal Creque (tracks: A3, B3), Norman Simmons (tracks: A4, B1) Bass – Jay Leonhart (tracks: A3, B3), Ray McKinny (tracks: A1), Victor Sproles (tracks: A4, B1) Drums – Al Dreares (tracks: A1), Jim Young (tracks: A3, B3), Steve Butler (2) (tracks: A2, A4, B1 to B2) Congas – Ralph Dorsey (tracks: A2, A4, B1) Percussion – Danny Barrajanos (tracks: A3, B3), Steve Kroon (tracks: A2, A4, B1) Vocals – Edna Holt (tracks: A2, A4, B1), Holly Hamilton (tracks: A4, B1) it looks like this LP was assembled from three sessions -- even though it doesn't have the feel of an "odds and ends" album. Quite the opposite: I think it coheres very well. No dates are listed on the sleeve, but it appears that Ousley re-used two cuts from The Kid! (Cobblestone, 1972) on The People's Groove. Tracks A3 ("Me & Bobby McGhee," edited) and B3 ("The Kid!," identical) appear on both LPs, and the personnel is the same as well. Per Discogs, Ousley recorded these two cuts on 03/28/1972. Does anyone have more insight into the recording dates for the other five cuts on The People's Groove? From my Lords I found these Informations Hope it helps Harold Ousley [O2184-15] The Kid !: Harold Ousley (ts) Neal Creque (p,el-p,org) Bob Rose (g) Jay Leonhart (el-b) Jim Young (d) Danny Barrajanos (perc) Ralph Dorsey (cga) New York, March 28, 1972 The kid Cobblestone CST9017, Muse MR5107 Forget it, I've got it - MR5141 Me and Bobby McGee - MR5107 The prodigal son - MR4141 Come Sunday - One for the masses - , Muse MR5141 Note: Muse MR5107 titled "The people's groove"; see flwg sessions for more titles. Muse MR5141 titled "Sweet double hipness"; see flwg sessions for more titles. Harold Ousley [O2185-15] The People's Groove: Gary Chandler (tp) Harold Ousley (ts) Nat Stokes (g) Ray McKinney (b) Al Dreares (d) New York, mid 1970's The people's groove Muse MR5107 Harold Ousley [O2186-15] Harold Ousley (ts) Bobby Forrester (org) Nat Stokes (g-1) Steve Butler (d) Steven Kroon (perc-1) Ralph Dorsey (cga-1) Edna Holt (vcl-1) New York, mid 1970's Little virgo (1) Muse MR5107 Why did I choose you ? - Harold Ousley [O2187-15] Harold Ousley (ts) Norman Simmons (p) Victor Sproles (b) Steve Butler (d) Ralph Dorsey (cga) Holly Hamilton, Edna Holt (vcl) New York, mid 1970's Positivity Muse MR5107 El exi-hente - Quote
soulpope Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Pim said: It was pressed by King records and sounds amazing. You must have the original India Navigation Clifford? Does that one also has that sound like you’re there in the studios? The interaction between Chico and Cecil is lovely The sound of the US Version is similarly spectacular, but the japanese pressing is superior .... Quote
HutchFan Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 3 hours ago, jazzcorner said: From my Lords I found these Informations Hope it helps Vielen Dank, mein Freund. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Jack Jones - This Love of Mine (Capitol, mono): Jack's first LP, from 1959, predating his Kapp years. Shorty Rogers Meets Tarzan (MGM, mono) Fantastic! A perfect companion piece to Afro-Cuban Influence. Quote
soulpope Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Shorty Rogers Meets Tarzan (MGM, mono) Fantastic! A perfect companion piece to Afro-Cuban Influence. Priceless Cover Art .... and the "West Coast All-Stars" are well oiled .... Quote
Pim Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 11 hours ago, soulpope said: The sound of the US Version is similarly spectacular, but the japanese pressing is superior .... Thanks! Don’t think many people had the opportunity to compare. Quote
soulpope Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Pim said: Thanks! Don’t think many people had the opportunity to compare. A small but world class record store aka Red Octopus Records @ Wien imported from Japan and US heavily (or should I say heavenly ?) at that time .... those were the days ..... Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 5 hours ago, soulpope said: A small but world class record store aka Red Octopus Records @ Wien imported from Japan and US heavily (or should I say heavenly ?) at that time .... those were the days ..... Red Octopus and Jazz by Freddie, those where the places where I could be spotted then..... But I am glad the there is still a lot of stuff goin around. Now you mostly can spot me at ZWE´s . Quote
HutchFan Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Chino y Su Conjunto Melao - En Mi Casa Latina (Latina Records, 1979) Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 8 hours ago, soulpope said: Priceless Cover Art .... and the "West Coast All-Stars" are well oiled .... Yes! I tried to find the film last night, but it wasn't on the streaming services we use. It must be terrible. It is from 1959, but it reuses stock footage from the 1932 film! Quote
HutchFan Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Flora Purim - Open Your Eyes You Can Fly (Milestone, 1976) Quote
HutchFan Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Now listening to Phil Woods' tribute to departed musical friends: Phil Woods - I Remember... (Gryphon, 1979) Quote
HutchFan Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Now spinning: Caiman Super All Stars - Super All-Star (Caiman, 1984) with: Timbales, Vibraphone – Tito Puente Alto Saxophone, Flute – Paquito D'Rivera Tenor Saxophone, Baritone Saxophone, Piccolo Flute – Mario Rivera Trumpet – "Chocolate" Armenteros, Spanky Davis, Valery Ponomarev Trombone – Claudio Roditi, José Rodrigues, Steve Turre Piano – Paquito Pastor Bass – Andy Gonzalez Guiro – Felo Barrios Congas – Daniel Ponce Coro – Leo González, Felo Barrios Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 Bernard Parmegiani – Rock (Bande Originale Du Film) Electronic soundtrack to a 1982 film. Quote
soulpope Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 15 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: Caiman Super All Stars - Super All-Star (Caiman, 1984) with: Timbales, Vibraphone – Tito Puente Alto Saxophone, Flute – Paquito D'Rivera Tenor Saxophone, Baritone Saxophone, Piccolo Flute – Mario Rivera Trumpet – "Chocolate" Armenteros, Spanky Davis, Valery Ponomarev Trombone – Claudio Roditi, José Rodrigues, Steve Turre Piano – Paquito Pastor Bass – Andy Gonzalez Guiro – Felo Barrios Congas – Daniel Ponce Coro – Leo González, Felo Barrios Feat. a great version of "El Platanal De Bartolo" .... Quote
HutchFan Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, soulpope said: Feat. a great version of "El Platanal De Bartolo" .... Plus the ever-popular "instruments floating in space" album sleeve motif. Quote
soulpope Posted May 21 Report Posted May 21 10 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Plus the ever-popular "instruments floating in space" album sleeve motif. Regarding "instruments floating in space" Cover Art Andy Gonzalez is the link here to Libre's "Con Salsa ... Con Ritmo" 🧐😎 .... Quote
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