HutchFan Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Now spinning: Laurindo Almeida - Concierto de Aranjuez (East Wind JP, 1978) My vinyl is the U.S. version issued on Inner City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 On 4/21/2024 at 4:12 PM, Pim said: Fascinating record from a Hungarian group recording with John Tchicai. I hear influences by Albert Ayler, Abdullah Ibrahim and Pharoah Sanders. Some free passages, spiritual jazz, free improvisation and compositional music. Pretty adventurous stuff. I’d call this my 2024 discovery for now. Perhaps some prejudice of me but I did not expect a 1983 record from Hungary to sound so good! Maybe they already know it but I am pretty sure this is the league of @mjazzg@Rabshakeh@soulpope and perhaps also @HutchFan That's a good record. I really like it. Not really the same thing, but I like George Szabados too, in Hungarians from the era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 20 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: That's a good record. I really like it. Not really the same thing, but I like George Szabados too, in Hungarians from the era. Yeah I like him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: Laurindo Almeida - Concierto de Aranjuez (East Wind JP, 1978) My vinyl is the U.S. version issued on Inner City Excellent. Love it 👍 ❣️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: Laurindo Almeida - Concierto de Aranjuez (East Wind JP, 1978) My vinyl is the U.S. version issued on Inner City 1 hour ago, jazzcorner said: Excellent. Love it 👍 ❣️ 👍 - just spinning ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 First spin of a recent dollar-bin find: Scott Hamilton & Warren Vaché - Skyscrapers (Concord, 1980) A nonet session with Harold Ashby, Joe Temperley, Norman Simmons, and others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: First spin of a recent dollar-bin find: Scott Hamilton & Warren Vaché - Skyscrapers (Concord, 1980) A nonet session with Harold Ashby, Joe Temperley, Norman Simmons, and others How is this one? I never really dug these guys, but I always liked how their records looked. Something about the late 1970s jazz ecosystem. Edited April 23 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: How is this one? I never really dug these guys, but I always liked how their records looked. Something about the late 1970s jazz ecosystem. The music is OK, but somewhat generic. At this point, having heard it only once, I can't say that I'd recommend it. I prefer individual albums by Hamilton (Tenorshoes) & Vaché (Polished Brass) much more. Both of these LPs feature smaller ensembles, which seem better suited to these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 Next up: Roy Eldridge - Dale's Wail (Verve, 2 LPs) Now this music OVERFLOWING with vitality. So much irrepressible soul coming out of that horn! Yeah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 10 hours ago, optatio said: 👍 - just spinning ... Yep! This one is here - excellent sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 Vernard Johnson - I'm a Witness Too I forget who on this board recommended this gospel saxophonist. Apparently a big influence on John Butcher. $2 purchase from Zia Thunderbird from a recent trip to Phoenix, Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 46 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Vernard Johnson - I'm a Witness Too I forget who on this board recommended this gospel saxophonist. Apparently a big influence on John Butcher. $2 purchase from Zia Thunderbird from a recent trip to Phoenix, Arizona. I find Butcher's church influence increasingly apparent in his solo work. Funny how that can happen with age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 (edited) 19 minutes ago, mjazzg said: I find Butcher's church influence increasingly apparent in his solo work. Funny how that can happen with age. I agree. "Church influence" is funny in this case, since presumably it comes from records. I'm not sure of how substantial the pentecostal saxophone scene was in East Sussex in the mid- to late-1960s, but I'd guess that the answer is 'not very'. Where did he first come across this stuff, and what other records are there that influenced him? Vernard Johnson is not exactly a house name of here. One thing that I don't hear much with Butcher is an Ayler influence, which is where you would have assumed he would have started from. It's a good record by the way. Very enjoyable as breakfast music, even if my wife is a bit less tolerant of outwardly churchy music. Edited April 24 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: I agree. "Church influence" is funny in this case, since presumably it comes from records. I'm not sure of how substantial the pentecostal saxophone scene was in East Sussex in the mid- to late-1960s, but I'd guess that the answer is 'not very'. Where did he first come across this stuff, and what other records are there that influenced him? Vernard Johnson is not exactly a house name of here. One thing that I don't hear much with Butcher is an Ayler influence, which is where you would have assumed he would have started from. It's a good record by the way. Very enjoyable as breakfast music, even if my wife is a bit less tolerant of outwardly churchy music. Yes, sounds like he skipped Ayler and went to the source. I do remember reading about a small, very local pentecostalism that developed from some of the post Civil Wars sects and had survived in the Downs certainly into the 50s, documentation suggests. I wonder if a young Butcher came across them whilst seeking out local cisterns in which to practice. Also, just remembered Prevost's mention of the Diggers and Muggletonians and their influence on the early structural identities of improvisation in East Anglia. Possible cross-pollination? Have to say, I agree with your wife Edited April 24 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 23 minutes ago, mjazzg said: I wonder if a young Butcher came across them whilst seeking out local cisterns in which to practice. This really made me chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: This really made me chuckle Only thanks to your original post which made me splutter my coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 CLEF MG C-682 (Japan 1990)- Lawrence Brown " Slide Trombone" - rec. 1955 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Frank Wright (tenor saxophone), Bobby Few (piano), Alan Silva (bass), Muhammad Ali (drums) Pretty intense stuff. Must have been quite a show there in Rotterdam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clifford_thornton Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Pim said: Frank Wright (tenor saxophone), Bobby Few (piano), Alan Silva (bass), Muhammad Ali (drums) Pretty intense stuff. Must have been quite a show there in Rotterdam. Absolutely. Of course I'm far too young to have witnessed this band or Frank Wright live, though I did see Few, Silva, Noah Howard and Leroy Williams in concert and it was a beautiful experience, full of camaraderie and love. This was several years before Muhammad Ali reemerged. My impression of the Center of the World band is that they were FUN and not afraid to get house rockin' in what they played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Eddie Harris - Instant Death A record that I have wanted to own for a while but which never showed up at the right price point, bought on recent trip to Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) Dexter Gordon Quartet 'Live at Chateauvallon 1978' (Elemental). Nice INA recording from a few RSDs back. Bonus of sleeve notes by Michael Cuscuna and Maxine Gordon. A superb LP ! Edited April 25 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 23 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Eddie Harris - Instant Death A record that I have wanted to own for a while but which never showed up at the right price point, bought on recent trip to Phoenix. Got my copy after you posted about it a while back, playing here now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Got my copy after you posted about it a while back, playing here now too It's one of my favourite of his weirder ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Sun Ra 'Inside the Light World: Sun Ra Meets the OVC' (Strut 2LPs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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