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On 4/21/2024 at 4:12 PM, Pim said:

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Fascinating record from a Hungarian group recording with John Tchicai. I hear influences by Albert Ayler, Abdullah Ibrahim and Pharoah Sanders. Some free passages, spiritual jazz, free improvisation and compositional music. Pretty adventurous stuff. I’d call this my 2024 discovery for now.

Perhaps some prejudice of me but I did not expect a 1983 record from Hungary to sound so good!

Maybe they already know it but I am pretty sure this is the league of @mjazzg@Rabshakeh@soulpope and perhaps also @HutchFan
 

That's a good record. I really like it.

Not really the same thing, but I like George Szabados too, in Hungarians from the era.

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20 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

That's a good record. I really like it.

Not really the same thing, but I like George Szabados too, in Hungarians from the era.

Yeah I like him too.

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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

Now spinning:

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Laurindo Almeida - Concierto de Aranjuez (East Wind JP, 1978)
My vinyl is the U.S. version issued on Inner City

 

Excellent. Love it 👍 ❣️ :D

 

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2 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Now spinning:

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Laurindo Almeida - Concierto de Aranjuez (East Wind JP, 1978)
My vinyl is the U.S. version issued on Inner City

 

1 hour ago, jazzcorner said:

Excellent. Love it 👍 ❣️ :D

👍 - just spinning ...

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First spin of a recent dollar-bin find:

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Scott Hamilton & Warren Vaché - Skyscrapers (Concord, 1980)
A nonet session with Harold Ashby, Joe Temperley, Norman Simmons, and others

 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

First spin of a recent dollar-bin find:

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Scott Hamilton & Warren Vaché - Skyscrapers (Concord, 1980)
A nonet session with Harold Ashby, Joe Temperley, Norman Simmons, and others

How is this one? I never really dug these guys, but I always liked how their records looked. Something about the late 1970s jazz ecosystem.

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3 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

How is this one? I never really dug these guys, but I always liked how their records looked. Something about the late 1970s jazz ecosystem.

The music is OK, but somewhat generic.  At this point, having heard it only once, I can't say that I'd recommend it.

I prefer individual albums by Hamilton (Tenorshoes) & Vaché (Polished Brass) much more. Both of these LPs feature smaller ensembles, which seem better suited to these players.

 

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Vernard Johnson - I'm a Witness Too

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I forget who on this board recommended this gospel saxophonist. Apparently a big influence on John Butcher.

$2 purchase from Zia Thunderbird from a recent trip to Phoenix, Arizona.

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46 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

Vernard Johnson - I'm a Witness Too

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I forget who on this board recommended this gospel saxophonist. Apparently a big influence on John Butcher.

$2 purchase from Zia Thunderbird from a recent trip to Phoenix, Arizona.

I find Butcher's church influence increasingly apparent in his solo work. Funny how that can happen with age.

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19 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

I find Butcher's church influence increasingly apparent in his solo work. Funny how that can happen with age.

I agree.

"Church influence" is funny in this case, since presumably it comes from records. I'm not sure of how substantial the pentecostal saxophone scene was in East Sussex in the mid- to late-1960s, but I'd guess that the answer is 'not very'. Where did he first come across this stuff, and what other records are there that influenced him? Vernard Johnson is not exactly a house name of here. One thing that I don't hear much with Butcher is an Ayler influence, which is where you would have assumed he would have started from.

It's a good record by the way. Very enjoyable as breakfast music, even if my wife is a bit less tolerant of outwardly churchy music.

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34 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

I agree.

"Church influence" is funny in this case, since presumably it comes from records. I'm not sure of how substantial the pentecostal saxophone scene was in East Sussex in the mid- to late-1960s, but I'd guess that the answer is 'not very'. Where did he first come across this stuff, and what other records are there that influenced him? Vernard Johnson is not exactly a house name of here. One thing that I don't hear much with Butcher is an Ayler influence, which is where you would have assumed he would have started from.

It's a good record by the way. Very enjoyable as breakfast music, even if my wife is a bit less tolerant of outwardly churchy music.

Yes, sounds like he skipped Ayler and went to the source. I do remember reading about a small, very local pentecostalism that developed from some of the post Civil Wars sects and had survived in the Downs certainly into the 50s, documentation suggests. I wonder if a young Butcher came across them whilst seeking out local cisterns in which to practice.

Also, just remembered Prevost's mention of the Diggers and Muggletonians and their influence on the early structural identities of improvisation in East Anglia. Possible cross-pollination?

Have to say, I agree with your wife

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Frank Wright (tenor saxophone), Bobby Few (piano), Alan Silva (bass), Muhammad Ali (drums)

Pretty intense stuff. Must have been quite a show there in Rotterdam.

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1 hour ago, Pim said:

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Frank Wright (tenor saxophone), Bobby Few (piano), Alan Silva (bass), Muhammad Ali (drums)

Pretty intense stuff. Must have been quite a show there in Rotterdam.

Absolutely. Of course I'm far too young to have witnessed this band or Frank Wright live, though I did see Few, Silva, Noah Howard and Leroy Williams in concert and it was a beautiful experience, full of camaraderie and love. This was several years before Muhammad Ali reemerged. My impression of the Center of the World band is that they were FUN and not afraid to get house rockin' in what they played.

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Dexter Gordon Quartet 'Live at Chateauvallon 1978' (Elemental). Nice INA recording from a few RSDs back. Bonus of sleeve notes by Michael Cuscuna and Maxine Gordon.

A superb LP !

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23 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

Eddie Harris - Instant Death

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A record that I have wanted to own for a while but which never showed up at the right price point, bought on recent trip to Phoenix.

Got my copy after you posted about it a while back, playing here now too

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