HutchFan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Ha! I hadn't heard of this. How is it? It's OK. But not as good as one might hope, given the line-up. There are several other Mann albums from around that time that are better, IMO. 10 hours ago, Pim said: These are all great and would make one hell of a Mosaic. Agreed on both points. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, HutchFan said: It's OK. But not as good as one might hope, given the line-up. There are several other Mann albums from around that time that are better, IMO. There's always more Herbie Mann albums and you never know whether or not they will be excellent, terrible or average. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: There's always more Herbie Mann albums and you never know whether or not they will be excellent, terrible or average. Yep. Mann is like Chick Corea in that regard. They're both prolific, and consistency isn't exactly their forte. Edited October 16, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
Bill Nelson Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 Mann's 'Stone Flute' (1970) may be his answer to Miles' 'Silent Way'. With Ron Carter, and regulars Sharrock, Miroslav, and Roy Ayers and cellos and violins. It's spacey, not beat-driven with radio hit potential. Quote
mjazzg Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 Schlippenbach Quartett - Das Hohe Lied [Po Torch Records, Germany 1991] I've been rediscovering my collection of Schlippenbach Trio/Quartet albums. A marvellous group. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 52 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Schlippenbach Quartett - Das Hohe Lied [Po Torch Records, Germany 1991] I've been rediscovering my collection of Schlippenbach Trio/Quartet albums. A marvellous group. So good. 1 hour ago, Bill Nelson said: Mann's 'Stone Flute' (1970) may be his answer to Miles' 'Silent Way'. The Mann had an answer to everything. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 21 hours ago, HutchFan said: I agree. Whenever I listen to it, I'm surprised (again) that BN didn't want to issue it. Regarding Woody's unissued Blue Note date, the story goes that Alfred Lion recorded several sessions for release on Blue Note but before he could get them out, he sold the business to Liberty. Since the deal did not include these recent dates, they were in some sort of limbo, so Lion gave the masters to the artists. I would think that if the deal didn't happen or if the deal had been structured differently, they would have issued this themselves. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, bresna said: Regarding Woody's unissued Blue Note date, the story goes that Alfred Lion recorded several sessions for release on Blue Note but before he could get them out, he sold the business to Liberty. Since the deal did not include these recent dates, they were in some sort of limbo, so Lion gave the masters to the artists. I would think that if the deal didn't happen or if the deal had been structured differently, they would have issued this themselves. O.K., that makes sense. Thanks for the insight. Quote
GA Russell Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Bill Nelson said: Mann's 'Stone Flute' (1970) may be his answer to Miles' 'Silent Way'. With Ron Carter, and regulars Sharrock, Miroslav, and Roy Ayers and cellos and violins. It's spacey, not beat-driven with radio hit potential. I saw Herbie's band at The Cellar Door very soon after this was released. (Early 1970?) They all pulled out their sheet music to play Waltz for My Son. Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 20 hours ago, jazzcorner said: EmArCy [Japan] EXPR-1006 - Herb Geller Sextette - rec. 1955 "Crazy he Calls me" is a wonderful ballad like all ballads originally sung by Billie Holiday. We play it quite often and it is fine in D-flat, the key Lady Day sung it. It seams that it is not played very often. I heard Gary Bartz-Buster Williams-Al Foster do it, but I think they did it in F . Quote
jazzcorner Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 Mercury Records 195J-44 [Japan] - Julian 'Cannonball' Adderley " Cannonball's Sharpshoters" - rec. 1958 - Nice Inlay with an Julian Adderley discography compiled by Kioshi Koyama 5 hours ago, Gheorghe said: "Crazy he Calls me" is a wonderful ballad like all ballads originally sung by Billie Holiday. We play it quite often and it is fine in D-flat, the key Lady Day sung it. It seams that it is not played very often. I heard Gary Bartz-Buster Williams-Al Foster do it, but I think they did it in F . Have the following versions of that composition: crazy she calls me 1254 Atlantic (jap) The Jimmy Giuffre 3 crazy she calls me 3121 Vanguard Free Wheeling - Ted Brown Sextet crazy she calls me 45956 RCA Victor (jap) The Horn`s Full-Jack Montrose Allstars crazy she calls me 8209 Verve Very Cool - Lee Konitz Quote
mjazzg Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter Five: In The Garden [Constellation Records, 2023] Stunning Quote
jlhoots Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mjazzg said: Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter Five: In The Garden [Constellation Records, 2023] Stunning Yep - I like it too. I'm listening on CD. Edited October 17, 2023 by jlhoots Quote
optatio Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 8 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Mercury Records 195J-44 [Japan] - Julian 'Cannonball' Adderley " Cannonball's Sharpshoters" - rec. 1958 - Nice Inlay with an Julian Adderley discography compiled by Kioshi Koyama 👍 Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) On 10/17/2023 at 1:33 PM, jazzcorner said: Mercury Records 195J-44 [Japan] - Julian 'Cannonball' Adderley " Cannonball's Sharpshoters" - rec. 1958 - Nice Inlay with an Julian Adderley discography compiled by Kioshi Koyama Have the following versions of that composition: crazy she calls me 1254 Atlantic (jap) The Jimmy Giuffre 3 crazy she calls me 3121 Vanguard Free Wheeling - Ted Brown Sextet crazy she calls me 45956 RCA Victor (jap) The Horn`s Full-Jack Montrose Allstars crazy she calls me 8209 Verve Very Cool - Lee Konitz I would like to add to your collection this one : Spontanuity | Allan Praskin Quintet | Allan Praskin (bandcamp.com) It´s a wonderful version of that ballad and I also have played it with Allan Praskin earlier this year. Here it is in Db as I told you. Allan is my favourite alto saxophonist, my idol since 1978 and though I never was a student, his musical advices or just listenig to him on the bandstand is my most beautiful experiences..... Edited October 19, 2023 by Gheorghe Quote
soulpope Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/11/2023 at 6:05 PM, porcy62 said: Excellent .... Quote
Clunky Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 Takeru Muraoka------Takeru-----(Superfly/Universal) 2021 reissue of 1970 date. Takeru sounds quite in debt to Wayne Shorter to my ears. Fine set Quote
jazzcorner Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I would like to add to your collection this one : Spontanuity | Allan Praskin Quintet | Allan Praskin (bandcamp.com) It´s wonderful and I have played it with Allan Praskin earlier this year. Here it is in Db as I told you. Allan is my favourite alto saxophonist, my idol since 1978 and though I never was a student, his musical advices or just listenig to him on the bandstand is my most beautiful experiences..... Thanks for the recommendation. Dont have records with Praskin as leader but have heard his name here and then together with other european recordings. He is also member in the Vaclav Zahradnik big band from CSSR which I have. But that is all I can remember. Edited October 18, 2023 by jazzcorner Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Clunky said: Takeru Muraoka------Takeru-----(Superfly/Universal) 2021 reissue of 1970 date. Takeru sounds quite in debt to Wayne Shorter to my ears. Fine set I love that one. Have been after an original for many years -- no luck -- but the reissue sounds just peachy to my ears. Quote
Clunky Posted October 19, 2023 Report Posted October 19, 2023 More Japanese jazz this morning its.. Masahiko Togashi-----We Now Create---(Victor Jpn) -recent reissue Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 19, 2023 Report Posted October 19, 2023 22 hours ago, jazzcorner said: a) Dont have records with Praskin as leader but have heard his name here and then together with other european recordings. b) He is also member in the Vaclav Zahradnik big band from CSSR which I have. But that is all I can remember. Really ? But since his move to Europe (first Germany, since it was Gunter Hampel who brought him to Europe) he has been one of the most busy jazzmen over here, with enthusiastic write ups in Jazz Podium and other press. It would be almost impossible to not have heard his name and seen him play in the most famous jazz venues of Germany, Austria and many many other European countries. He was our hero here in Vienna, when he played with the best guys, no one could play bop as well as avantgarde with such dexterity and musical enthusiasm like him. And last not least he was the first important jazz man, with whom I had the honour to play and still do on several occasions. And he was one of the best educators, teachin´ jazz at Bruckner conservatorium in Linz.... look out for him he really burns...... look at least at some video stuff on youtube or whereever...... b) I like that you say CSSR. Those were the days when I still could know which country where is, I performed at some jazz festival still in CSSR and other Eastern European countries as well. But I didn´t know that Allan played there. Quote
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