Rabshakeh Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Niko said: I must admit I never quite got the intention without the comma but also never tried to hard: Were they trying to say "Next we present jazz ramwong" (as in "chicken teriyaki" or "jazz samba") or is the "now" a qualification of jazz like in TTK's "now sound"... The comma makes it clear that it's the former... (see also Ramwong) If it was me, I'd have gone for: Now.... Jazz! Ramwong!!!!!! 3 minutes ago, mjazzg said: In the GDR they had a different style, no comma on my Amiga copy Feeding the Ostalgie brigade with their austere soviet typology. Edited September 6, 2023 by Rabshakeh Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Albert Mangelsdorrff Quintett - One Tension [Amiga, GDR 1964 mono] no commas but with added "One" in title compared to non GDR releases Marcello Melis - Free To Dance [Black Saint, Italy 1978] This is such a good album, look at that line-up. So why haven't I played it in over five years I ask myself 48 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Feeding the Ostalgie brigade with their austere soviet typology. 😀 Edited September 6, 2023 by mjazzg Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Andrew Hill - Judgement! [Blue Note/Music Matters, 2013 45rpm] Von Freeman - Have No Fear [Nessa, 1975] Edited September 6, 2023 by mjazzg Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mjazzg said: Marcello Melis - Free To Dance [Black Saint, Italy 1978] This is such a good album, look at that line-up. So why haven't I played it in over five years I ask myself 😀 Melis is really interesting. Not only the Black Saint and Vista LPs, but Hamiet Bluiett's Bars (which he wrote & arranged, mostly) and half of Mario Schiano's Sud (as the Bluiett). Edited September 6, 2023 by clifford_thornton Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: Melis is really interesting. Not only the Black Saint and Vista LPs, but Hamiet Bluiett's Bars (which he wrote & arranged, mostly) and half of Mario Schiano's Sud (as the Bluiett). Thanks, I know 'Bars' but not the Vista nor the Schiano. I'll see if I can check them out Edited September 6, 2023 by mjazzg Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 The Vista is strong for sure, and not at all a "wall" record. I'm sure you can find a vinyl copy. the Schiano is somewhat rare but it does pop up on discogs. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Big push for Sud here. Don't know Bars either but will check it out. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Bars is the trio of Bluiett/Melis/Moye. It goes there. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Feeding the Ostalgie brigade with their austere soviet typology. "Commas are characteristic of the decadent Western bourgeoisie, the kulaks of punctuation." Edited September 6, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
HutchFan Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Next up: Chico Freeman - The Outside Within (India Navigation, rec. 1978) Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 52 minutes ago, HutchFan said: "Commas are characteristic of the decadent Western bourgeoisie, the kulaks of punctuation." 😄 Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Garrick's Fairground - Mr Smith's Apocalypse [Argo, UK 1971] Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Pretty good album that I oughter pick up one of these days... Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: Pretty good album that I oughter pick up one of these days... A recent addition. It's quintessential Garrick with that British choral writing tradtion to full effect. My copy has the added bonus, to me, of all the musicians' autographs on the inside gatefold with dedications to "Derek" who was obviously involved in some way but isn't credited anywhere. I need to research who that might be. Any clue @sidewinder? Edited September 6, 2023 by mjazzg Quote
jazzcorner Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Coral Records CRL 57283 - Leith Stevens " Jazz Themes From Private Hell 36" - rec. 1959 Edited September 7, 2023 by jazzcorner typo Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, mjazzg said: A recent addition. It's quintessential Garrick with that British choral writing tradtion to full effect. My copy has the added bonus, to me, of all the musicians' autographs on the inside gatefold with dedications to "Derek" who was obviously involved in some way but isn't credited anywhere. I need to research who that might be. Any clue @sidewinder? Nice. I actually discovered recently that my Poetry & Jazz 250 is signed inside the box by Garrick -- the autograph was obscured by an inlay that I hadn't taken out. Quote
mjazzg Posted September 6, 2023 Report Posted September 6, 2023 Neil Ardley - A Symphony Of Amaranths [Regal Zonophone, UK 1972] 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: Nice. I actually discovered recently that my Poetry & Jazz 250 is signed inside the box by Garrick -- the autograph was obscured by an inlay that I hadn't taken out. That's a good surprise. I should revisit the poetry & jazz, it was a bit too rich a mixture for me 20 years ago and I haven't tried since Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 yeah, neat stuff but requires a special mood. I think I've spent more time with the single LPs (inc. Black Marigolds) than the box. Quote
mjazzg Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 The Charlie Mingus Modernists - Jazz Experiment [Jazztone, 1957] a Noir soundtrack if ever there was one Quote
Rabshakeh Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, mjazzg said: The Charlie Mingus Modernists - Jazz Experiment [Jazztone, 1957] a Noir soundtrack if ever there was one That's another cool record. I like LaPorta on it, and the composing is good too. Lots of great ideas in that era. Quote
mjazzg Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: That's another cool record. I like LaPorta on it, and the composing is good too. Lots of great ideas in that era. Yes, I agree. the group name and LP title sum it up nicely. I love this era of Mingus. With hindsight you can hear what's coming down the line but I think the era has merits all of its own. Herbie Hancock - The Prisoner [Blue Note, Germany 1970(?)] always been a favourite Herbie date. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Yes, I agree. the group name and LP title sum it up nicely. I love this era of Mingus. With hindsight you can hear what's coming down the line but I think the era has merits all of its own. Those records are obviously juvenalia and they are also their own sort of dead end, but they're really interesting dead end juvenalia. Third stream and its colleague: esoteric cool and bop modernism. The link to Black Saint is obvious but also the records are really different. It's more a link in thinking that actual musical language. I'm also a big fan of John LaPorta. He's not the best alto player by any means, but he has a nice smokey quality and, more importantly, he tended to be on oddball interesting records only. Quote
mjazzg Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) I hear links to future compositions on Picecanthropus and East Coasting, mood but also structure but I'm no musician so that's purely a listener's perspective. I have a couple La Porta LPs I really enjoy Edited September 7, 2023 by mjazzg Quote
HutchFan Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Now spinning: Jan Garbarek - Places (ECM, 1978) with John Taylor (org, p), Bill Connors (g), and Jack DeJohnette (d) EDIT: Such masterful drumming by Jack. His propulsive drive makes this music go. 23 hours ago, mjazzg said: Neil Ardley - A Symphony Of Amaranths [Regal Zonophone, UK 1972] Edited September 7, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
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