Gheorghe Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 I have a batch of old Vinyls from my youth saved on USB sticks that I listen to while drivin´. Yesterday it was two obscure Charlie Parker things with Orchestra, which was unusual since I think I remember I read somewhere that after Billy Eckstine Bird didn´t want to work again with Big Bands. The "Bird with the Herd" seems to be a very very rare thing, it doesn´t have many cover text infos, but from the sound I have the feeling that this was after the "Four Brothers" period. They really cook behind Bird and also have good soloists. Bird is in top form. The other one I think I bought when this short lived label started, that was led by Bruce Lundvall, the former CBS boss. I had some of them, like this one, and a Bud Powell also from Washington (they seemed to have some access to Washington tapes ?), another one was a Clifford Brown live concert. This is also a fine Big Band, the drummer is very very good . There is also some tunes I didn´t know before. They say that on Bird´s last engagement at Birdland, with Kenny Dorham, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus and Art Blakey the "first night was perfect" and all that crap that´s written is about the second night where things didn´t happen. Maybe in future there will be discovered the good stuff they did when it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 The "Four Brothers" track on Bird with the Herd is a gem with Bird learning the changes on the bridge of this (then) recent tune as he goes along!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) Now spinning: Shelly Manne - Essence (Galaxy, 1977) with Lew Tabackin (ts, fl), Mike Wofford (p), and Chuck Domanico (b) A gem of a record that, oddly, never got an OJC CD reissue (AFAIK). Edited April 21, 2023 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: Shelly Manne - Essence (Galaxy, 1977) with Lew Tabackin (ts, fl), Mike Wofford (p), and Chuck Domanico (b) A gem of a record that, oddly, never got an OJC CD reissue (AFAIK). Discogs lists an LP copy at $0.42! Shipping = $6 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Discogs lists an LP copy at $0.42! Shipping = $6 lol. Needless to say, that's a GOOD DEAL for this LP. But why does any reseller even bother to list a record at that price?!?! Edited April 21, 2023 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Needless to say, that's a GOOD DEAL for this LP. But why does any reseller even bother to list a record at that price?!?! Probably a duplicate. This one below is certainly not in that cathegory ;-]] Always a good combination Edited April 21, 2023 by jazzcorner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gheorghe Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 17 hours ago, BillF said: The "Four Brothers" track on Bird with the Herd is a gem with Bird learning the changes on the bridge of this (then) recent tune as he goes along!! I don´t have it exactly in my ears right in this moment, but oh..... doesn´t it have a similar way of chord solutions like "Cherokee" ? 9 hours ago, optatio said: This one came out when I heard them with Johnny Griffin at Jazz Freddy. It must have been in spring 1978 and so it was shortly before Griff left Europe to start his comeback in the States, similar to Dexter. What a night. I remember they usually started the shows at 22:00 and I think it lasted almost to ora 03:00 or so. It´s possible that it was published later, but I heard them play the material from that record in late 1977, and sure they played stuff from it the following year also. Later there was also a trio record made in Munich, with Isla Eckinger on bass and I think Billy Hart on drums... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, JSngry said: 😁👍 Bob's band was one of the best & also his guest appearances in Europe. Dis also some recordings with the Frankfurt radio big band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: I don´t have it exactly in my ears right in this moment, but oh..... doesn´t it have a similar way of chord solutions like "Cherokee" ? No, not like "Cherokee". Musicians tell me the changes in the bridge of "Four Brothers" move in an unexpected direction and it's obvious from the recording that Bird didn't expect what was happening, but, master as he was, he soon found the way to go. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjazzg Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 14 hours ago, JSngry said: That looks interesting, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, mjazzg said: That looks interesting, is it? It is. And fwiw, it came to World Pacific from Japanese Victor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, JSngry said: It is. And fwiw, it came to World Pacific from Japanese Victor. Thanks, will see what I can find 3 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Thanks, will see what I can find Found it, purchased. At £12.00 got to be worth the ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Pim said: 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Now on my turntable: Black Renaissance [Harry Whitaker] - Body, Mind and Spirit (Baystate, rec. 1976) with Woody Shaw, Azar Lawrence, Buster Williams, Billy Hart, and others; 2023 RSD re-reissue from Luv N' Haight From this listener's point of view, Buster Williams is the force that makes this album move, the hero of the date. Edited April 22, 2023 by HutchFan corrected error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 15 hours ago, JSngry said: 👍 3 hours ago, Pim said: 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) John Coltrane, Blue Trane (Blue Note)) Edited April 22, 2023 by kh1958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Ahmad Jamal - Live at Oil Can Harry's - Catalyst (stereo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Ahmad Jamal at the Pershing: But Not for Me - Argo (mono) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Trend/ Discovery DS-815 - Woody Herman " The Third Herd Vol. 1" ( Mars Masters) - rec. 1952 & 1953 - Engineer: Dave Ellsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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