jazzcorner Posted February 21, 2023 Report Posted February 21, 2023 Tampa LP 14 / V.S.O.P. 14 - Bob Enevoldsen Quintet - rec. 1955 - Engineer: Val Valentin Quote
Gheorghe Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Brad said: An album with a lot of feeling. Just now: Is this Barry Harris ? He was a real keeper of the flame. I think from all who were influenced by Bud , he was the one who was influenced mostly and much of his playing reminded me of the style of the later Bud of the sixties. I have heard that both have met and woodshedded in Nica´s house. The trumpet player I work with had played with Barry Harris. He is astonishing and knows all those bop tunes ! It must be quite interesting to hear the Bud influenced Harris play Tadd Damerons compositions. Bud himself usually did "Hot House" and "Lady Bird" or "If You Could See Me Now". I heard Walter Davis once playing in a manner that copied the original style of Tadd Dameron, which I also like very very much. His short solos are little pieces of art, they make you smile " On 2/18/2023 at 10:17 PM, jazzcorner said: -,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,- Have it with this cover - but prefer the guitar & bass trios ;-]] I never saw a Peterson pic with him with a cigarette in the mouth. The strange thing on that foto or cover art is that on this one he looks very very similar to Bud. Edited February 22, 2023 by Gheorghe Quote
Brad Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Is this Barry Harris ? He was a real keeper of the flame. I think from all who were influenced by Bud , he was the one who was influenced mostly and much of his playing reminded me of the style of the later Bud of the sixties. I have heard that both have met and woodshedded in Nica´s house. The trumpet player I work with had played with Barry Harris. He is astonishing and knows all those bop tunes ! It must be quite interesting to hear the Bud influenced Harris play Tadd Damerons compositions. Bud himself usually did "Hot House" and "Lady Bird" or "If You Could See Me Now". I heard Walter Davis once playing in a manner that copied the original style of Tadd Dameron, which I also like very very much. His short solos are little pieces of art, they make you smile " I never saw a Peterson pic with him with a cigarette in the mouth. The strange thing on that foto or cover art is that on this one he looks very very similar to Bud. Yes, that’s Barry Harris and as you said he was a real keeper of the flame. Quote
BillF Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: 👍 Quote
soulpope Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 4:45 PM, Brad said: Just now: So good .... Quote
Gheorghe Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 8 hours ago, jazzcorner said: I never saw this. I think I have one or two of those JAPT double albums from my youth, especially meant for spinning some long track stuff when some buddies came to my place for drinkin some beer and having a nice evening. All those great musicians, but I can´t stand some of Granz´choices for the trombone chair. Bill Harris and Tommy Turk are very technical players and know their instrument, but I don´t really like their kind of style. They sound "funny" to me. But this also may be the purpose so it´s cool for all who like it. Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Re: Norman Granz & JATP I never saw this. I think I have one or two of those JAPT double albums from my youth, especially meant for spinning some long track stuff when some buddies came to my place for drinkin some beer and having a nice evening. All those great musicians, but I can´t stand some of Granz´choices for the trombone chair. Bill Harris and Tommy Turk are very technical players and know their instrument, but I don´t really like their kind of style. They sound "funny" to me. But this also may be the purpose so it´s cool for all who like it. Yes these early CLEF Records are long oop. Bill Harris was IMO also a great big band trombonist (with Woody) and great also in the Charlie Ventura groups. As opposite to you I like his playing in the JATP groups. Turk Murphy went more in the traditional and swing direction. BTW this recent Mosaic box shown below is my most recent investment and its great. Containing a lot of material I dont have on vinyl contains the following vinyls Quote
HutchFan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 Now spinning: This is the second LP from Art Pepper's 1980 engagement at Ronnie Scott's. It was released in Leviev's name due to Pepper's contractual constraints with Galaxy. I found it at the Jazz Record Center in NYC last week. 1 hour ago, jazzcorner said: contains the following vinyls Wonderful to see all of these cover images, jazzcorner. Thank you for assembling them. That's about the only criticism that you can consistently level at Mosaic: Their packaging doesn't include the album covers. Even so -- in the larger scheme of things -- it's a small thing, and I'm grateful for all the amazing music they've reissued over the years. Quote
soulpope Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: This is the second LP from Art Pepper's 1980 engagement at Ronnie Scott's. It was released in Leviev's name due to Pepper's contractual constraints with Galaxy. I found it at the Jazz Record Center in NYC last week. ❤️❤️❤️ and many more .... Quote
sidewinder Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: This is the second LP from Art Pepper's 1980 engagement at Ronnie Scott's. It was released in Leviev's name due to Pepper's contractual constraints with Galaxy. I found it at the Jazz Record Center in NYC last week. Wonderful to see all of these cover images, jazzcorner. Thank you for assembling them. That's about the only criticism that you can consistently level at Mosaic: Their packaging doesn't include the album covers. Even so -- in the larger scheme of things -- it's a small thing, and I'm grateful for all the amazing music they've reissued over the years. Aha - The Mole Jazz label ! I think their first LP of Pepper was ‘Blues For The Fisherman’, followed by this one. The whole lot is on an OOP 6LP set from Pure Pleasure. Quote
HutchFan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Now this: David Schnitter - Invitation (Muse, 1976) with Mickey Tucker, James Leary, and Eddie Marshall His debut as a leader. 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: I think their first LP of Pepper was ‘Blues For The Fisherman’, followed by this one. Yep! 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: The whole lot is on an OOP 6LP set from Pure Pleasure. Also available as a 4-CD set from Laurie Pepper's Widow's Taste. Edited February 23, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, HutchFan said: Re JATP box from MOSAIC Wonderful to see all of these cover images, jazzcorner. Thank you for assembling them. That's about the only criticism that you can consistently level at Mosaic: Their packaging doesn't include the album covers. Even so -- in the larger scheme of things -- it's a small thing, and I'm grateful for all the amazing music they've reissued over the years. I think its a question of costs and/or copyrights but we all can say the sound quality is 1a. To compile the original covers we have the own stock and the Internet. My problem is I did start collection in the 1960s. So every Mosaic box I buy means also more or less duplicate music in my collection. But I can live with that. ;-]] Edited February 23, 2023 by jazzcorner Quote
sidewinder Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Now this: David Schnitter - Invitation (Muse, 1976) with Mickey Tucker, James Leary, and Eddie Marshall His debut as a leader. Yep! Also available as a 4-CD set from Laurie Pepper's Widow's Taste. I recall seeing David Schnitter with Cedar Walton circa 1979/80. He had just taken over from George Coleman in ‘Eastern Rebellion’. 34 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Also available as a 4-CD set from Laurie Pepper's Widow's Taste. Forgot about that. The Pure Pleasure issue is very good. Much prefer it to the Mole LPs, which sound a bit rolled off to my ears. 24 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: I think its a question of costs and/or copyrights but we all can say the sound quality is 1a. To compile the original covers we have the own stock and the Internet. My problem is I did start collection in the 1960s. So every Mosaic box I buy means also more or less duplicate music in my collection. But I can live with that. ;-]] I get sick of hearing about this particular Mosaic set, considering that mine remains untraced and lost somewhere mid-Atlantic. Mosaic Bermuda Triangle perhaps. 🥺 Edited February 23, 2023 by sidewinder Quote
HutchFan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 Another David Schnitter LP: Recorded in 1978-79 12 minutes ago, sidewinder said: I recall seeing David Schnitter with Cedar Walton circa 1979/80. He had just taken over from George Coleman in ‘Eastern Rebellion’. I didn't know that Schnitter played with Eastern Rebellion. I'd always assumed the baton went directly from Big George to Bob Berg. I guess not. 13 minutes ago, sidewinder said: I get sick of hearing about this particular Mosaic set, considering that mine remains untraced and lost somewhere mid-Atlantic. Mosaic Bermuda Triangle perhaps. 🥺 Bummer. Hopefully, it'll eventually show up on your doorstep. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 My mistake - it was Berg ! I did see Schnitter though in the same timeframe and venue with Art Blakey ! No doubt the Mosaic will turn up, tied to a bottle with a note in it.. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 @HutchFan - I don't really know Schnitter. Where would you start? Quote
HutchFan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: @HutchFan - I don't really know Schnitter. Where would you start? In terms of his albums as a leader, I only have the two LPs shown above: Invitation and Glowing. I prefer Invitation slightly. It's a classic tenor-plus-rhythm date -- and Mickey Tucker's presence is always a plus. BTW, don't expect anything mind-blowing -- but they are both enjoyable, solid jazz records. As for his sideman work, I would recommend these (very underrated, IMO) Art Blakey albums, which also feature James Williams and Bobby Watson along with Schnitter: - In This Korner (Concord) - In My Prime, Vol. 1 (Timeless) - In My Prime, Vol. 2 (Timeless) Schnitter's work on Richard "Groove" Holmes' Shippin' Out (Muse) is also excellent. I don't have any of his more recent stuff. Hope that helps. Edited February 23, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
HutchFan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 Now: Everything about this record is wonderful. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 3 hours ago, HutchFan said: In terms of his albums as a leader, I only have the two LPs shown above: Invitation and Glowing. I prefer Invitation slightly. It's a classic tenor-plus-rhythm date -- and Mickey Tucker's presence is always a plus. BTW, don't expect anything mind-blowing -- but they are both enjoyable, solid jazz records. As for his sideman work, I would recommend these (very underrated, IMO) Art Blakey albums, which also feature James Williams and Bobby Watson along with Schnitter: - In This Korner (Concord) - In My Prime, Vol. 1 (Timeless) - In My Prime, Vol. 2 (Timeless) Schnitter's work on Richard "Groove" Holmes' Shippin' Out (Muse) is also excellent. I don't have any of his more recent stuff. Hope that helps. Thank you Quote
HutchFan Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 Now playing: Mike Gibbs directs - The only Chrome-Waterfall Orchestra (Bronze UK, 1975) Really enjoying this! Quote
Gheorghe Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 10 hours ago, sidewinder said: My mistake - it was Berg ! I did see Schnitter though in the same timeframe and venue with Art Blakey ! No doubt the Mosaic will turn up, tied to a bottle with a note in it.. Yes, me too ! I saw Schnitter only with the late 70´s Art Blakey Messengers personnel . Actually, this was the band that brought Blakey back to top billing after some difficult years in the early-mid seventies. He really can play, very very soulful, I think I even heard a version of "Georgia on My Mind" where he sings the tune, and I think the coda was a slight imitation of Leon Thomas. Dave Schnitter really looks cool. Somehow very similar to my brother in law (also black curly hair). So I would have liked to know more about his ethic background ? Is he a darker type of caucasian, or is he a light coloured afroamerican like Jackie McLean was ? I mean, it´s the music that counts, but nevertheless, I´m quite interested in ethnic backgrounds too since me myself I am a mixture of 3 or 4 different backgrounds 😄 Quote
BillF Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 13 hours ago, sidewinder said: Aha - The Mole Jazz label ! I think their first LP of Pepper was ‘Blues For The Fisherman’, followed by this one. The whole lot is on an OOP 6LP set from Pure Pleasure. Ah yes, Mole and Ed Dipple. A mutual friend, emailing this week from Milan where he now lives, writes: "Next year will be the 30th anniversary of Ed's premature demise." Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 24, 2023 Report Posted February 24, 2023 12 hours ago, sidewinder said: I get sick of hearing about this particular Mosaic set, considering that mine remains untraced and lost somewhere mid-Atlantic. Mosaic Bermuda Triangle perhaps. 🥺 There is hope. Had ordered from an italian seller a vinyl which seemed lost or stolen too. In a private email he sweared he had shipped it. Discogs had suggested to him to refund me. No reaction. Three month later the vinyl arrived a my housedoor. So have a little patience more ;-]] Quote
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