HutchFan Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck Nessa Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) and Edited August 16, 2022 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, HutchFan said: Is this the original edition? Have one on the "Flyright" label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 14.8.2022 at 0:37 PM, sidewinder said: Tone Poet version. Trounces the old French DMM copy and also the (better) Toshiba CD by some distance. Lovely issue. Fine as the ‘Classic’ series is, the Tone Poets are worth the extra. One can also hear the fine arranging hand of Cal Massey in both sessions. I remember I bought it really really long time ago, there were some BN-sessions that originally was in the vaults or rejected or who knows what...., they had some ugly- non typic BN covers (CD´s), all the same layout, I think another one was some Jackie McLean "Tippin the Scales". I think the Cal Massey arrangement or composition was something with a strange title, something with an animal farm and really the intro sounds like some animals on a farm, at least my wife said so and she even liked it because of that..... But in general, there are much better Morgan sessions, and it also has some sad feeling for me, since I think it was the last time Paul Chambers played on a BN session, it was late in his short live and he was near to death and you can hear it by his relative weak sound and solo. A tragedy when you think he was the most famous and most recorded bassist in the 50´s and early 60s. I have not listened to it for more than 20 years and am not sure where I have placed it, I think it was not in my separate box with BN recordings, I´m quite lousy in collecting due to lack of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Is this the original edition? Have one on the "Flyright" label. Yes, per Discogs, it was first issued on Interplay. I suppose Flyright licensed it.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 hours ago, HutchFan said: I haven't spun this in a while. I'll try to get it onto the turntable later today. Thanks for reminding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Looks like it has potential. I dig the cover art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022  and   4 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: Looks like it has potential. I dig the cover art. Nothing there that will blow anyone's mind -- but it's excellent music. I enjoy it. Hard to go wrong when Pepper Adams is on the date.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Another great album cover on a record with Bill Perkins: never on vinyl(?) but don't let that stop you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gheorghe Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 hours ago, HutchFan said:  and     Too bad I missed the chance to see the comback of the MJQ live. Though I´m not the biggest fan of it, especially if it goes to much into classical influences which I don´t really like, I like the early albums for BN and Prestige. They played "together again" on a 3 days Jazz festival from friday to sunday, but I was in the Army and got only a day off on saturday, so I just arrived on friday evening when Miles started his set, heard all the music from sunday but had to be back on Sunday, so I missed things like MJQ and Libration Orchestra.....  Lee Konitz doin´ "Oleo" might be interesting, I don´t have very much Konitz, one is the Prestige stuff with Miles as co-leader, I think one of Miles from Roost 48 with Konitz replacing Bird, and one 1977 Konitz Nonet which is very fine and has a superb rhythm section. I think it was on Roulette. Oleo sure is fine, but I would miss a drummer......  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Too bad I missed the chance to see the comback of the MJQ live. Though I´m not the biggest fan of it, especially if it goes to much into classical influences which I don´t really like, I like the early albums for BN and Prestige. They played "together again" on a 3 days Jazz festival from friday to sunday, but I was in the Army and got only a day off on saturday, so I just arrived on friday evening when Miles started his set, heard all the music from sunday but had to be back on Sunday, so I missed things like MJQ and Libration Orchestra.....   I now regret that I passed up the opportunity of seeing the MJQ. When I was young they, together with the Brubeck quartet, had a massive appeal to people who didn't like Bird, Diz, Bud and Monk, so for for me they weren't cool. As for the Brubeck quartet with Desmond, they came here so often, I just couldn't avoid them and ended up seeing them three times in three different cities! Fortunately, the Ellington band came just as often and I was there every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 52 minutes ago, BillF said: I now regret that I passed up the opportunity of seeing the MJQ. When I was young they, together with the Brubeck quartet, had a massive appeal to people who didn't like Bird, Diz, Bud and Monk, so for for me they weren't cool. As for the Brubeck quartet with Desmond, they came here so often, I just couldn't avoid them and ended up seeing them three times in three different cities! Fortunately, the Ellington band came just as often and I was there every time! In my youth or better said in my surroundings and fellow musicians it was else: Maybe the MJQ sounded else after they left BN and Prestige and got a more classical approach, but though they choose a more relaxed and more silent way to play than Diz and Bird , they all were real "cats", they formed the rhythm-section of the Dizzy Gillespie Big Band, they all played with Bird, and minus Lewis who was a fine pianist himself, all played and recorded with Monk and Bud. So I got to at least some of the earlier records of the MJQ through Diz, Bird, Monk. And don´t forget that fine stuff Sonny Rollins did with them also for Prestige. With Brubeck it was another thing. I really didn´t get to know one single music lover from the people I hang around  or played with, who said "yeah, I dig Brubeck", and at least I learned it was another kind of society who liked Brubeck. And when by coincident one of those, maybe a school teacher who heard I go into jazz (when I started to listen to Mingus, Miles, Trane , Rollins etc. ) told me to check out Brubeck because he is GREAT, he is TOP, he borrowed me an album and despite the fact that I didn´t like the cover picture (this Brubeck looked to me like a secondary school headmaster from the early 60´s, completly "unhip"), I expected if he so "hot" as they say let´s spin it, and..... even my mother (born 1921) somehow heard it through my room and came in. She was not educated to jazz but when I would spin  Mingus´ "Meditations", Ornette´s "Lonley Woman" she said that´s really great deep music , but when she heard "this" Brubeck she said "WHAT´s THAT KITSCH ? I thought you hear good music like "your" Mingus and so on, but this is NOTHING !". So even my oldish mother didn´t like it..... And I never could change my mind.... you can say it´s my fault, but I can´t do it....  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HutchFan Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 More musical settings of Shakespeare (and other poets) by Cleo Laine and John Dankworth: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Lee Konitz doin´ "Oleo" might be interesting, I don´t have very much Konitz, one is the Prestige stuff with Miles as co-leader, I think one of Miles from Roost 48 with Konitz replacing Bird, and one 1977 Konitz Nonet which is very fine and has a superb rhythm section. I think it was on Roulette. Oleo sure is fine, but I would miss a drummer......  It's a gentle but occasionally acerbic set. I like Lee from that period, drummer or no drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillF said: I now regret that I passed up the opportunity of seeing the MJQ. When I was young they, together with the Brubeck quartet, had a massive appeal to people who didn't like Bird, Diz, Bud and Monk, so for for me they weren't cool. As for the Brubeck quartet with Desmond, they came here so often, I just couldn't avoid them and ended up seeing them three times in three different cities! Fortunately, the Ellington band came just as often and I was there every time! Nearest I got was standing right next to John Lewis doing his solo piano / Paris tribute suite thing. Wonderful. Sadly, never saw Bags or the MJQ. I remember their mid-70s ‘retirement’. For a current day feel of how the MJQ sounded, Nat Steele’s ‘Tribute to the MJQ’ performances give a pretty good idea. Excellent player. Edited August 17, 2022 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I remember Peter Jennings announcing on ABC news the passing of Milt Jackson. They did a brief obit for him that included snippets of his live playing. At the time I didn’t listen to jazz and didn’t know who Milt was but for whatever reason that segment stuck with me. Decades later when I finally came around to this music, Bags and the MJQ were some of the first albums I checked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: It's a gentle but occasionally acerbic set. I like Lee from that period, drummer or no drummer. Me too.  I was hoping Oleo would be in the same league as the Milestones albums from around that time: Peacemeal, Spirits, and (most especially) Satori.  IMO, the Sonet set doesn't quite reach the level of those. But it's still prime LK.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 16.8.2022 at 9:40 PM, HutchFan said: Â On 16.8.2022 at 10:54 PM, JSngry said: Another great album cover on a record with Bill Perkins: never on vinyl(?) but don't let that stop you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjazzg Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Rickey Kelly - Limited Stops Only [Nimbus West/Pure Pleasure, UK 2021 RE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 The Descendants Of Mike And Phoebe - A Spirit Speaks [Strata East/Pure Pleasure, UK 2017 RP] Such a beautiful record. Dare I say that the version of Bill Lee's 'John Coltrane' is superior to that on 'Glass Bead Games' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Now on my turntable: Jackie & Roy - S/T (MCA) 2-LP reissue that compiles cuts from J&R's four ABC-Paramount albums, 1956-59 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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