Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 5:52 PM, Chuck Nessa said: When I went to work at Delmark/Jazz Record Mart in 1966 Bob Koester claimed Sam Charters (producer of the Vanguard set) stole his "little brown book" to get all the musicians' phone numbers. Expand While that sounds sleazy, is there a specific reason why these artists wouldn't have wanted their phone numbers more widely known to a producer in the record industry?? Was Charters offense more against Koester than the artists? Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 6:32 PM, bresna said: While that sounds sleazy, is there a specific reason why these artists wouldn't have wanted their phone numbers more widely known to a producer in the record industry?? Was Charters offense more against Koester than the artists? Expand Against Koester, I would think. Quote
JSngry Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 It's the Jordi Pooholes business model, just take what you want from whoever has it, period. If you've never been stolen from, maybe it doesn't seem like a big deal? But, you know, you could have just asked. Quote
Brad Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 1:24 PM, Rabshakeh said: This is the first I have heard of this compilation. Having read a little about it after seeing this post, I thought it would have a listen. It's amazing stuff, and you can immediately see how hard it hit the music scene at the time. Presumably the Bluesbreakers and Yardbirds etc just stayed up all night listening to these tracks on repeat and forlornly trying to replicate them. Expand This was part of a RSD release last year that included all three volumes. However, Craft just announced they are releasing volume 1 again. Chicago The Blues Today Quote
Pim Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 with Reggie Workman, Michael Carvin and Stanley Cowell Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 9:36 AM, Pim said: Expand Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way On 5/3/2022 at 10:19 AM, Pim said: with Reggie Workman, Michael Carvin and Stanley Cowell Expand Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... Quote
Pim Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 1:29 PM, Gheorghe said: Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... Expand I quitted smoking 4 and a half years ago (not trying to convince you ) but I never took the filter between my teeth either. Looks pretty could though.... It's his brother Ron Bridgewater. Not really impressed by his playing to be honest. Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 Now on my 'table: Steve Kuhn / Sheila Jordan Band - Playground (ECM, 1980) Gorgeous. Quote
porcy62 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 4:40 PM, HutchFan said: Now on my 'table: Steve Kuhn / Sheila Jordan Band - Playground (ECM, 1980) Gorgeous. Expand Not the typical BW photo of ECM: colors and human beings. Eichler was particularly happy the day he approved the cover.😁 Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 5:01 PM, porcy62 said: Not the typical BW photo of ECM: colors and human beings. Eichler was particularly happy the day he approved the cover.😁 Expand So true! ... And it's not blurry either! Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 7:14 PM, mjazzg said: Hadley Caliman - Iapetus [Mainstream, 1972] second consecutive spin because it intrigues me Expand Playing this one now. Quite unique. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 1:29 PM, Gheorghe said: Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... Expand Cecil and his brother Ronnie (saxophonist). Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 Jackie & Roy - S/T (MCA, 1982) A compilation of cuts from their four ABC-Paramount LPs, 1956-59 Quote
JSngry Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 9:46 PM, clifford_thornton said: Cecil and his brother Ronnie (saxophonist). Expand When did he change to "Ronnie"? And what is he even up to these days? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 10:41 PM, HutchFan said: Jackie & Roy - S/T (MCA, 1982) A compilation of cuts from their four ABC-Paramount LPs, 1956-59 Expand Ever hear "Glasses 'N Ashes 'N Bottles 'N Cans" from an early LP on Brunswick? Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) On 5/3/2022 at 11:42 PM, Teasing the Korean said: Ever hear "Glasses 'N Ashes 'N Bottles 'N Cans" from an early LP on Brunswick? Expand I haven't. Should I look for it? EDIT: Coincidentally, that Brunswick LP is the source of the photo used on the MCA reissue. It's a bit odd because none of the cuts on the Brunswick disc are on the MCA comp. Another oddity: The image is reversed on the MCA reissue. Edited May 3, 2022 by HutchFan Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) On 5/3/2022 at 11:44 PM, HutchFan said: I haven't. Should I look for it? Expand It's a cute song, about a couple cleaning up after a party. Worth seeking out if you can find it. I think the entire album is on YouTube. Here is the album. It is the next-to-last track. Edited May 4, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote
HutchFan Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 12:12 AM, Teasing the Korean said: It's a cute song, about a couple cleaning up after a party. Worth seeking out if you can find it. I think the entire album is on YouTube. Here is the album. It is the next-to-last track. Expand Very nice. Thanks! Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 It´s possible that Jackie Cain and Roy Kral were not as well known in Austria.... I have read about them as being part of Charlie Ventura´s "Bop for the People" project. Is that true ? Quote
jazzcorner Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 6:34 AM, Gheorghe said: It´s possible that Jackie Cain and Roy Kral were not as well known in Austria.... I have read about them as being part of Charlie Ventura´s "Bop for the People" project. Is that true ? Expand Yes they are members of the Charlie Ventura unit in a very early live concert 1949 at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium which appeared in 2 parts on 2 different labels (GNP & MCA) Have both and they are phantastic with that Ventura group. Recommend both very much. Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 10:46 AM, jazzcorner said: Yes they are members of the Charlie Ventura unit in a very early live concert 1949 at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium which appeared in 2 parts on 2 different labels (GNP & MCA) Have both and they are phantastic with that Ventura group. Recommend both very much. Expand Yes, that´s it. In books about jazz in the 40´s like Ira Gitler´s book and others, the "Bop for the people" wasn´t mentioned very much. See, for dudes from Europe who were born after the 40´s , we didn´t know very much about groups that may have had a short time fame, but nevertheless the "Bop for the People" is something I had heard about. And that tune "High on an Open Mike" was for eternity through the 1947 "Saturday Night Jazz Session" which we all bought in the 70´s mostly for the participation of Fats Navarro. I remember my English was very weak and depended on my understanding of the liner notes. But the title "High on an Open Mike" was ununderstandable for me then. "Mike" was the english name for "Mihail" or "Michael" how I knew it and I translated it in "Hoch auf einem offenen Michael" (I think only Google-Translate can do worse), but it is an interesting Ventura original with some "swing to bop" elements. The A part is based on "If I had You" and the bridge is a descending chord thing, very very nice to play really...... Benny Green is really cool, but I think on that WNEW Saturday Night stuff it was Bill Harris on tb, who sounds more old fashioned for our understanding, a bit more Dixieland style if I´m right. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 10:57 PM, JSngry said: When did he change to "Ronnie"? And what is he even up to these days? Expand I've always heard it as Ronnie among musicians, though you are correct the album credits don't bear that out. He's been teaching for a number of years. Quote
jazzcorner Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 11:15 AM, Gheorghe said: Yes, that´s it. In books about jazz in the 40´s like Ira Gitler´s book and others, the "Bop for the people" wasn´t mentioned very much. See, for dudes from Europe who were born after the 40´s , we didn´t know very much about groups that may have had a short time fame, but nevertheless the "Bop for the People" is something I had heard about. And that tune "High on an Open Mike" was for eternity through the 1947 "Saturday Night Jazz Session" which we all bought in the 70´s mostly for the participation of Fats Navarro. I remember my English was very weak and depended on my understanding of the liner notes. But the title "High on an Open Mike" was ununderstandable for me then. "Mike" was the english name for "Mihail" or "Michael" how I knew it and I translated it in "Hoch auf einem offenen Michael" (I think only Google-Translate can do worse), but it is an interesting Ventura original with some "swing to bop" elements. The A part is based on "If I had You" and the bridge is a descending chord thing, very very nice to play really...... Benny Green is really cool, but I think on that WNEW Saturday Night stuff it was Bill Harris on tb, who sounds more old fashioned for our understanding, a bit more Dixieland style if I´m right. Expand Nice story about remembering the times gone! Well my favorite song (can change however) is " I'm forever blowing bubbles". In fact the 2 vinyls are excelent from beginning to the end. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 Curtain Call from amazon shipped out locally 2 days ago but there was a delay in transit afterwards (?) and its now TBD but in transit still (?). Quote
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