riverrat Posted April 27, 2022 Report Posted April 27, 2022 On 6/10/2021 at 0:37 PM, bresna said: Immanuel Wilkins - Omega (Blue Note) What do members here think of Wilkins' 2nd outing, The 7th Hand? I liked Omega. Wilkins' quartet is inspired, especially his piano player Micah Thomas. So I was looking forward to his new one. But I was quite disappointed. Whereas Omega strikes me as good post-bop, somewhat Coltrane influenced but not cloned, The 7th Hand is much less compelling, for me at least. I suppose it would help if I liked "free" jazz more, which is the style of "Lift" what seems to be regarded as the standout tune on the 2lp set, taking up the entire 4th side. It's pretty much noise jazz in my book, and I found it pretty much unlistenable. A lot of rapid fire notes, to be sure, but definitely not for me. The rest of the set if not as "out" as the 4th side. I'll try to give it another chance, but not sure I'll even be keeping this one. Perhaps Wilkins and his trio feel the need to experiment and push boundaries more than they did on Omega, as they continue to build their body of work. I respect that. But I'll definitely do some spot checking before buying any more of their output. Quote
Pim Posted April 27, 2022 Report Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, porcy62 said: That deserve a tonepoetizazion, absolutely, pretty hard to find in all its forms. Like Pearson’ Wahoo and Jackiemac’ Demon Dance Oh yes! Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 by the way asked michael jaksons engineer on titok, just what exactly was up w/ JOS on Bad, and the entire story with that. He said that was all Quincy. Quincy of course new Jimmy and invited him to do a session, and then he said he thinks jimmy stayed for dinner. the end. Quote
Gheorghe Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 13 hours ago, sidewinder said: NYC stereo I´m not sure now but I think I heard an excerpt of one tune of it (Timmon´s Dat There I think) on a commercial. Love that record. 10 hours ago, HutchFan said: Sublime !!! I love this Hutcherson album very much. He was such a flexible musician, from mainstream to avantgarde, and the occasion when I saw him together with Jackie McLean AND Billy Higgins was one of the greatest concerts I remember.... Quote
BillF Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 14 hours ago, sidewinder said: 8 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Quote
porcy62 Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 Mono, found it at my local store today, never heard of it. Nice one. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 3 hours ago, porcy62 said: Definitely a BLOWIN' SSSION. its the ballzest album of all time. Nothing suprpases this session Quote
jazzcorner Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 On 11.4.2022 at 6:14 PM, mjazzg said: Yes, a great album, a favourite of mine. Terrific compositions and playing by everyone now onto another very fine Polish album Andrzej Trzaskowski Quintet - Polish Jazz vol.4 {Polskie Nagrana Muza, USSR 1965] Well unknown to me. The story about my vinyls from the eastern european countries is as follows: During the times of the "Iron Curtain" I did send to some jazzfans from East Germany (DDR), Poland and Russia my used "western vinyls" when I got a new japanese or spanish edition. They did send me then what was available overthere (not always to my personal taste) but during the time I have also some good ones pref. the eastern big band. Poland had always a very modern oriented jazz scene then. 12 hours ago, BillF said: Music for Lighthouse Keeping Blakey: The Big Beat Two good albums here too! Quote
BillF Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: Well unknown to me. The story about my vinyls from the eastern european countries is as follows: During the times of the "Iron Curtain" I did send to some jazzfans from East Germany (DDR), Poland and Russia my used "western vinyls" when I got a new japanese or spanish edition. They did send me then what was available overthere (not always to my personal taste) but during the time I have also some good ones pref. the eastern big band. Poland had always a very modern oriented jazz scene then. Two good albums here too! In the 60s I saw the Polish Modern Jazz Quartet (alt, pno, bs, dms) in a Leeds club. The usual jazz audience was swelled by a number of students from the very left-leaning Leeds University of the day, who were clearly there for the politics, not the music. When a number was announced "by the American pianist, Bill Evans", the group was booed! More palatable was listening to a "conversation" at the keyboard between the pianist and my late piano-playing friend Paul Woodrow in which the only shared vocabulary was the names "Wynton Kelly" and "McCoy Tyner". International co-operation at its best with jazz as the key! Quote
Rabshakeh Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 These are great stories. They don't seem that far away. Quote
HutchFan Posted April 28, 2022 Report Posted April 28, 2022 Now on my 'table: Carmen McRae & the Kenny Clarke-Francy Boland Big Band - November Girl (Jazz Man, rec. 1970) Originally released on Black Lion in 1975 Oh yeah. Sassy, swaggering stuff. It's really walloping me tonight. Quote
jazzcorner Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, BillF said: In the 60s I saw the Polish Modern Jazz Quartet (alt, pno, bs, dms) in a Leeds club. The usual jazz audience was swelled by a number of students from the very left-leaning Leeds University of the day, who were clearly there for the politics, not the music. When a number was announced "by the American pianist, Bill Evans", the group was booed! More palatable was listening to a "conversation" at the keyboard between the pianist and my late piano-playing friend Paul Woodrow in which the only shared vocabulary was the names "Wynton Kelly" and "McCoy Tyner". International co-operation at its best with jazz as the key! Probably at that time Bill Evans was somewhat of a rising star and not the creative superstar he is today in the eyes of the fans even after his death. Have some nice "live" vinyls with Getz & Woody Herman appearing on festivals in Poland. Quote
BillF Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 No, it was the mention of the word "American" that caused jeers from the Leeds Marxists. How out of touch can you get in a jazz audience! Quote
Rabshakeh Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, BillF said: No, it was the mention of the word "American" that caused jeers from the Leeds Marxists. How out of touch can you get in a jazz audience! I would be interested to know how much of the suddenly explosion in more original sounding European and Japanese jazz in the late 60s and 70s was spurred by precisely this, somewhat ridiculous in retrospect, rejection of Jazz's American origin. Teruto Soejima's book on Japanese jazz obliquely references the importance of the student protests against the US-Japan Security Treaty as being part of the formation of the Japanese free jazz scene. I wonder whether this went for other forms of jazz too, like parts of the British jazz scene's turn to pastoralist and (British) literary themes. Quote
jazzcorner Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, BillF said: No, it was the mention of the word "American" that caused jeers from the Leeds Marxists. How out of touch can you get in a jazz audience! Ahh yes that sounds familiar to me. Germany had also that "left" direction among the students combined with the antinuclear position of the younger generation. Can't say whether they liked jazz or not. Here are 2 more of my "eastern" vinyls a) from Hungary. An excellent pianist and his group s--- Janos Gondar b) from Poland Z. Namyslowsko Quintet Quote
HutchFan Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 Now: Lorez Alexandria - Sings the Songs of Johnny Mercer, Vol. 1 - with the Mike Wofford Quartet (Discovery, 1981) Earlier: Betty Carter - Look What I Got! (Verve, 1988) Quote
BillF Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Ahh yes that sounds familiar to me. Germany had also that "left" direction among the students combined with the antinuclear position of the younger generation. Can't say whether they liked jazz or not. b) from Poland Z. Namyslowsko Quintet Ah yes, it was the Namyslowski quartet that I saw. As for those students' politics, at least they got it right on South Africa. One morning two hundred students crossed the road to Barclay's bank and closed their accounts because of Barclays' co-operation with the apartheid regime! Quote
mjazzg Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, BillF said: Ah yes, it was the Namyslowski quartet that I saw. As for those students' politics, at least they got it right on South Africa. One morning two hundred students crossed the road to Barclay's bank and closed their accounts because of Barclays' co-operation with the apartheid regime! We were still protesting against Barclays in SA when I was a student in early 80s Quote
sidewinder Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) Another straggler from RSD just picked up. Candid release in clear translucent vinyl (). Sounds damn good though. Nicely done card sleeve and facsimile labels. All analogue. Should be a good new series, this one. Edited April 29, 2022 by sidewinder Quote
sidewinder Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 20 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now on my 'table: Carmen McRae & the Kenny Clarke-Francy Boland Big Band - November Girl (Jazz Man, rec. 1970) Originally released on Black Lion in 1975 Oh yeah. Sassy, swaggering stuff. It's really walloping me tonight. Don’t think I’ve seen that sleeve version before. The only versions I know are the Black Lion and the Rearward. Quote
porcy62 Posted April 29, 2022 Report Posted April 29, 2022 11 hours ago, BillF said: No, it was the mention of the word "American" that caused jeers from the Leeds Marxists. How out of touch can you get in a jazz audience! Over here, Italy, only the most radical left wing musicians were welcomed then. I mean I remember a "proletarian trial" that a left wing audience settled up against an italian forlk singer in a concert. Guess it was one of the reasons I still have some problems listening to some of the avant-garde european artists, their dogmatic attitude. Quote
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