What vinyl are you spinning right now??

[HutchFan]

38 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Yeah, that's a good one. Are you playing the Pure Pleasure reissue or the original? 

Original.  Wasn't aware that PP had reissued it.

 

[Gheorghe]

9 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

Re Montomery brothers with WES. Have a second one which is also of the same calibre. Is that also on your Blue Note reissue of the Pacific Jazz label?

Yes, the stuff with young Freddie Hubbard is also on my BN reissue. Wasn´t this Freddie´s  first recording session ? 

[JSngry]

10 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

I had fun playing tracks from Ask the Ages on DJ gigs when I was able to do that before COVID. In that instance, vinyl was certainly a plus.

Memory checking myself (because that's something I NEED to do a lot these days), Ask The Ages was originally released on CD (and cassette!), there was no Axiom LP? Or was there?

I see the CD was AAD, so ok, maybe there's not a lot (or anything?) lost by returning it to analog...if they've gone back to the analog session/mixing tapes. Did they do that? Or are they just making an LP of the CD?

Still can't believe that the CD is no longer in print. That's just immoral.

 

[Dub Modal]

2 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Memory checking myself (because that's something I NEED to do a lot these days), Ask The Ages was recorded digitally, and originally released on CD (and cassette!), there was no Axiom LP? Or was there?

I see the CD was AAD, so ok, maybe there's not a lot (or anything?) lost by returning it to analog.

 

No Axiom LP. The Hive Mind 45 was the first to market with vinyl, VMP's came a few months later. 

[JSngry]

What was Laswell's label prior to Axiom, Celluloid? Is that the order? I definitely remember Laswell LPs on one of his labels, but I think it was Celluliod.

So, did Hive Mind make the LP from analog sources? If so, I might like to hear the LP, it might actually sound better than the CD, or, at least, different, in a not-bad way.

But if they used digital source tapes...neve mind, none for me, thanks.

[Dub Modal]

I don't know about Celluloid, but there's some LPs and vinyl promo singles on Axiom. Looking through that label on discogs now and there's some interesting albums...

[JSngry]

Laswell put out a LOT of records back in the day, on both Celluloid & Axiom, a lot of them quite interesting and almost all of them with one or more players in the mix you might not expect to find. The Tabla Beat Science records are particularly wonderful.

and I got it backward - Celluloid came before Axiom and was not Laswell's label, although he was a driving force there. And between the two labels, there's an entire musical culture going on that was vey well documented.

This on, should be an All-time Classic instead of an underground classic:

[Dub Modal]

17 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Laswell put out a LOT of records back in the day, on both Celluloid & Axiom, a lot of them quite interesting and almost all of them with one or more players in the mix you might not expect to find. The Tabla Beat Science records are particularly wonderful.

and I got it backward - Celluloid came before Axiom and was not Laswell's label, although he was a driving force there. And between the two labels, there's an entire musical culture going on that was vey well documented.

This on, should be an All-time Classic instead of an underground classic:

That is an INTENSE record. I didn’t know it was considered an underground classic either. Bought it out of the used bins for a few bucks a couple of years ago, amazed by who was involved as listed on the back. 

[JSngry]

Yeah, I remember it got a few heavy reviews, but then nothing. It seems to be one of those records that people have found and immediately lock in with or else go through life never even hearing of it. Funny how that works sometimes...

[HutchFan]

NP:

Enrico Rava Quintet - Andanada (Soul Note)

 

[clifford_thornton]

4 hours ago, JSngry said:

What was Laswell's label prior to Axiom, Celluloid? Is that the order? I definitely remember Laswell LPs on one of his labels, but I think it was Celluliod.

So, did Hive Mind make the LP from analog sources? If so, I might like to hear the LP, it might actually sound better than the CD, or, at least, different, in a not-bad way.

But if they used digital source tapes...neve mind, none for me, thanks.

Celluloid was run by Jean Georgakarakos of BYG fame.

I assume the Hive Mind is from a digital source; my copy is now buried in pre-move boxes.

[JSngry]

So...digital on an LP...that's kind of why CDs became the thing, wasn't it? Cutting out that analog filter middleman.

I mean, I am coming to appreciate (if not completely understand) the object-ness of the "vinyl revival", but from an objective (no pun intended) standpoint...just not feeling a need, myself.

Now, if somebody still has the AA part of the AAD chain, and wanted to work with that, hey, let's play that game, because the digital quality process did not evolve nearly as adroitly as did the marketplace process...it got there, eventually, but...that's another story. People confused lack of tape hiss with "better sound" and god, look at all the truly shitty sounding records we got stuck with.

Bottom line, though - it's an amazing record, and it's great that it's getting back out there.

[Dub Modal]

46 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I assume the Hive Mind is from a digital source; my copy is now buried in pre-move boxes.

I don't have any doubt it is, just like all of the Sun Ra reissues on LP have a digital step in the chain. These days it seems safe to assume that unless it's advertised as AAA, it ain't. And for this particular album I think that AAA would be impossible anyway. 

38 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Bottom line, though - it's an amazing record, and it's great that it's getting back out there.

Yeah, it's a record that deserves everlasting life. 

[JSngry]

4 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

And for this particular album I think that AAA would be impossible anyway.

wouldn't want to assume that...Laswell ahs always struck me as a pack-rat-y kind of guy for some reason. Maybe all the remixes, just seems like the kind of guy who keeps stuff around. I could be totally wrong.

[HutchFan]

Now on my 'table:

Billy Hart - Rah (Gramavision, 1988)

 

 

[soulpope]

On 11.3.2021 at 8:00 AM, Gheorghe said:

I saw exactly this group in july 1983 at Wiesen Jazz Festival and have this Elektra Musician Album also. 

Do know another "eye witness"  ....

[HutchFan]

Funky electric avant-country blues was a thing in the 80s.

 

[Rabshakeh]

Just now, HutchFan said:

Funky electric avant-country blues was a thing in the 80s.

Never went away.

[HutchFan]

Just now, Rabshakeh said:

Never went away.

Ah, I see.  Then I suppose I've been unaware of its presence.

There's always more to discover.  

 

[HutchFan]

NP:

McCoy Tyner - Just Feelin' (Palo Alto Jazz, 1985)
with Avery Sharpe (b), Louis Hayes (d), and on two cuts Babatunde (perc)

 

[sidewinder]

Just in from HJs - along with the two Futura reissues. ‘Live A Gaveau’, also on Sam Records, has also just arrived from Paris, so I thereby proclaim today as ‘Gilson Day’.

Edited March 13, 2021 by sidewinder

[HutchFan]

Stanley Turrentine - Use the Stairs (Fantasy, 1980)
with Wade Marcus arrangements

Mr. T's last record for Fantasy

[kh1958]

18 hours ago, HutchFan said:

NP:

McCoy Tyner - Just Feelin' (Palo Alto Jazz, 1985)
with Avery Sharpe (b), Louis Hayes (d), and on two cuts Babatunde (perc)

 

This group and the group on Dimensions I saw many times. Usually in the last set, at some point McCoy would raise the intensity to such a high level, his playing seemed to defy the limitations of the piano and become some other instrument. Seeing McCoy Tyner a couple of times a year, that is something I really miss. 

Jimmy Ponder, So Many Stars (Milestone)

Urban Green 6-Tet (Command/Pathe Marconi)

[sidewinder]

Yeah, I caught that Tyner Trio with Avery Sharpe at Ronnie Scott’s a couple of times. I had the feeling it was Tootie Heath on drums but may have been Louis Hayes.

[kh1958]

9 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

Yeah, I caught that Tyner Trio with Avery Sharpe at Ronnie Scott’s a couple of times. I had the feeling it was Tootie Heath on drums but may have been Louis Hayes.

When he switched from a quintet to the trio as his touring group, Louis Hayes was on drums for the first two or three years; then Aaron Scott replaced Louis Hayes.