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1 hour ago, rdavenport said:

There was a thread on here a few years ago, in which members were asked to come up with jazz album titles which you would never see, or were rejected and so on.

Someone came up with "That's Where It Is" for this album. To this day, whenever I see this LP it makes me chuckle

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Dude, I would back that puppy up ASAP in the most serious way possible and only play that going forth. If this is a real acetate, CT's advice is sound (no pun intended), they're not built for the long haul. And maybe this item is already worn to a certain degree.

It's sounds like you scored a serious piece of serious history, so...proceed accordingly!

Just saying, sleeve type is not the critical factor here nearly as much as is long-term availability of the "data".

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hmm, i see.  should i make my needle lighter on my machine n stuff

OH yea.  u know what i was thinkning, its like a modern acetate in a way, its from 1976.  It isnt like the bird glass acetate with the chips of laquer falling off, you know what i mean- it looks real nice!

that marty stewart 10" 45 rpm acetate i saw once from the early 80s looked like you could get 1,000 plays on it- no i am not going to play the crap out of it. very sparingly

but by 1976 i would of hope they were making hella good acetates

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Definitely only play acetates a few times only - I would copy it to CD ASAP, then file it in the racks.

They were designed for artist/producer etc. audition purposes only, prior to test pressings.

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well my dawg look im not going to destory it, thats for sure.  but i have to go back to the fact that my pat boone acetate sounds studio quality still and thats way older than this one dawg.  hey, i know exactly when thats from, 1956.  ok so only 20 years prior to what im getting.  

 

but the real audio test of that is the b-side of the pat boone record---- commericals for the Cinerama film SEVEN WONDERS OF THE WORLD.  Its f-i-n-e.  do you feel me on this at all. is it different cause they are 78s?  they are audiodisc.  actually its a 12" disc, what i describe, pat boone side a and film commercials side b.  

why didnt any of you guys get it before me, it was up for like 4 hours.  I didnt want to be the person to be responsible for this, but i had no choice. I HAD NO CHOICE

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7 hours ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

well my dawg look im not going to destory it, thats for sure.  but i have to go back to the fact that my pat boone acetate sounds studio quality still and thats way older than this one dawg.  hey, i know exactly when thats from, 1956.  ok so only 20 years prior to what im getting.  

They are designed for 2-3 plays only. It's just a thin layer of lacquer over an aluminum core, which is easily chipped and can flake off due to improper handling.

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15 hours ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

would plastic (that wouldnt stick, good plastic sleeve eg. deutch grammaphone or london records style)......or a paper sleeve, be better for the acetate.  ill wait n see what comes with it....

Don't, dawg!!

I once bought a set of (professional) photo negatives from 1957 at a swap meet and filed them inside their cardboard sleeve and this in turn inside a standard letter-size clear plastic document holder like you put them ni 3-hole binders. The plastic  document holder wasnt new at all and things went well for a couple of years but then, after maybe 10 or 15 years or so when I checked again after 2 or 3 years or so I discoved the negative surfaces had become all crumbly, showing a cobwebbed structure and the top layers had started to delaminate. In short, the negatives were shot! A pity because they were one-of-a-kinds and as they were of an odd, no longer-current size that you can only have prints made from at specialist photo shops I delayed this and then it was too late. Gone forever ...

The only explanation I have is that some sort of solvents from the plastic material of the document holder evaporated and killed the negatives. (I have older negatives than this that are still fine but they' have been in their cellophane negative strip holders all their lives) I am not so sure that this can NOT interact with acetate materials too.

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2 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

Don't, dawg!!

I once bought a set of (professional) photo negatives from 1957 at a swap meet and filed them inside their cardboard sleeve and this in turn inside a standard letter-size clear plastic document holder like you put them ni 3-hole binders. The plastic  document holder wasnt new at all and things went well for a couple of years but then, after maybe 10 or 15 years or so when I checked again after 2 or 3 years or so I discoved the negative surfaces had become all crumbly, showing a cobwebbed structure and the top layers had started to delaminate. In short, the negatives were shot! A pity because they were one-of-a-kinds and as they were of an odd, no longer-current size that you can only have prints made from at specialist photo shops I delayed this and then it was too late. Gone forever ...

The only explanation I have is that some sort of solvents from the plastic material of the document holder evaporated and killed the negatives. (I have older negatives than this that are still fine but they' have been in their cellophane negative strip holders all their lives) I am not so sure that this can NOT interact with acetate materials too.

yeah, you don't want any chance of off-gassing (although I'm not sure which plastics would create film on the acetone). Standard paper sleeve is fine.

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Lucky Thompson - Illuminations (Groove Merchant, 2 LP set)

LP 1 - originally released as I Offer You; with Cedar Walton, Sam Jones, and Louis Hayes

Lucky makes such a singular and wonderful sound on the soprano sax. Don't get me wrong: I love his tenor playing too. But there's just an ineffable, special something about the way he plays the soprano. 

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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

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Lucky Thompson - Illuminations (Groove Merchant, 2 LP set)

LP 1 - originally released as I Offer You; with Cedar Walton, Sam Jones, and Louis Hayes

Lucky makes such a singular and wonderful sound on the soprano sax. Don't get me wrong: I love his tenor playing too. But there's just an ineffable, special something about the way he plays the soprano. 

Love those Lucky GM sides (don't overlook the Cook County Jail album!), and especially for the soprano cuts and the way it blends with Cedar Walton's Rhodes.

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Tommy Flanagan - Eclypso (Inner City, licensed from Enja)

with George Mraz & Elvin Jones

 

 

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Love those Lucky GM sides (don't overlook the Cook County Jail album!), and especially for the soprano cuts and the way it blends with Cedar Walton's Rhodes.

Yes!!! Purists might object to the use of the electric piano. I LOVE it. And I love how Cedar plays the instrument with such a deft touch. It sounds otherworldly, almost like a celeste.

Will check out the Cook County Jail record. Not familiar with that one. 

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