What vinyl are you spinning right now??

[soulpope]

1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

Clarke/Boland Big Band - KPM Conventions compilation by Trunk Records. Corker !  Sonics are excellent. I think it is stereo - not that it matters. 

Recommended without hesitation to mjazzg !

👍👍👍!!!

[mjazzg]

1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

Clarke/Boland Big Band - KPM Conventions compilation by Trunk Records. Corker !  Sonics are excellent. I think it is stereo - not that it matters. 

Recommended without hesitation to mjazzg !

OK, thanks

[clifford_thornton]

2 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Would that be a ‘NY USA’ stereo Liberty or a ‘Liberty’ stereo Liberty? 

Liberty Liberty. Not stressing the difference.

I have some of that CBBB KPM material on a Muse LP, which sounds like it was mastered in an underwater cave.

[sidewinder]

52 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I have some of that CBBB KPM material on a Muse LP, which sounds like it was mastered in an underwater cave.

This mastering sounds pretty crisp. I assume you are referring to ‘Open Door’?

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, Open Door.

[clifford_thornton]

I think I was kinda "off" on Henderson for some time, but have recently begun spinning his records again and I think they've improved with (my) age. Sometimes you need to take a few years separating the aesthetic wheat from the chaff.

[JSngry]

Why do so many favor Mode For Joe over the other BNs? It's always seemed a bit..."tame" to me. Obviously not everybody hears it like that!

[Mark Stryker]

14 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Why do so many favor Mode For Joe over the other BNs? It's always seemed a bit..."tame" to me. Obviously not everybody hears it like that!

I'd guess that "Mode for Joe" ranks high for people because the compositions and larger ensemble give the record an approachable quality that's different from the others. For me, however, "Inner Urge" is the clear No. 1 -- it's not even close -- with In 'N Out"  in the No. 2 position, "Mode for Joe" at No. 3 and then "Our Thing" and "Page One" are basically tied. That may underrate "Our Thing" but that one was out of print when I was young and I didn't get it until it was reissued in the mid '80s and by then I had learned every groove of the others so it wasn't really a fair fight.  

Edited September 5, 2018 by Mark Stryker

[JSngry]

I'll take In 'n Out, Inner Urge, and Our Thing any day, on a loop, randomly sequenced or otherwise. The others, really, only on special days.

Our Thing was a sleeper for me. For years, I only had a pretty worn LP and I didn't get all the nuances. Then it got reissued and I was like, WHOA! Kenny Dorham! and then it all started falling into place, piece by piece (in multiple ways!).

As you say, that one was OOP for a long time. When all the others were still available, Our Thing wasn't. I got my copy from a radio station. Don't know how it got so plowed, they sure as hell never played it, but I didn't ask questions.

[Mark Stryker]

3 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I'll take In 'n Out, Inner Urge, and Our Thing any day, on a loop, randomly sequenced or otherwise. The others, really, only on special days.

Our Thing was a sleeper for me. For years, I only had a pretty worn LP and I didn't get all the nuances. Then it got reissued and I was like, WHOA! Kenny Dorham! and then it all started falling into place, piece by piece (in multiple ways!).

As you say, that one was OOP for a long time. When all the others were still available, Our Thing wasn't. I got my copy from a radio station. Don't know how it got so plowed, they sure as hell never played it, but I didn't ask questions.

Some might argue that "The Real McCoy" is Joe Henderson's greatest Blue Note even if all the tunes are by McCoy.

I'm recommending three records with each chapter in my book. For Joe Henderson it's "Inner Urge," "Power to the People" and ""The Real McCoy."

Edited September 5, 2018 by Mark Stryker

[JSngry]

I like Unity that way too, Joe plays that good R&B tenor on that one (sic).

[paul secor]

Lum Guffin: Walking Victrola (Flyright)

[clifford_thornton]

I quite like all the Henderson records upthread. But since I had MFJ on for the first time in ages, it seemed like it was worth mentioning. I've always dug the first cut on Inner Urge but felt like it lost a lot of steam after that point. Maybe my ears would hear differently now.

anyway...

Bill Barron -- West Side Story Bossa Nova -- (Dauntless stereo orig)

Edited September 6, 2018 by clifford_thornton

[paul secor]

New Jersey Burners (Krazy Kat)

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

need!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

8 hours ago, JSngry said:

I'll take In 'n Out, Inner Urge, and Our Thing any day, on a loop, randomly sequenced or otherwise. The others, really, only on special days.

Our Thing was a sleeper for me. For years, I only had a pretty worn LP and I didn't get all the nuances. Then it got reissued and I was like, WHOA! Kenny Dorham! and then it all started falling into place, piece by piece (in multiple ways!).

As you say, that one was OOP for a long time. When all the others were still available, Our Thing wasn't. I got my copy from a radio station. Don't know how it got so plowed, they sure as hell never played it, but I didn't ask questions.

And I'll take 'Brown sugar', by Freddie Roach   (You knew I'd say that, didn'cha?

MG

[Kevin Bresnahan]

5 hours ago, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

And I'll take 'Brown sugar', by Freddie Roach   (You knew I'd say that, didn'cha?

MG

Wake me up when it's done playing please.

[clifford_thornton]

Ha, that record is okay. Not great, but not awful. It's no Unity but it doesn't have to be.

and if anyone is holding a minty fresh Henderson's Habiliment, please let me know!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

3 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Ha, that record is okay. Not great, but not awful. It's no Unity but it doesn't have to be.

Yeah, it's not great, but it does have a certain importance. Like Johnny 'Hammond' Smith's 'Higher ground' it shows that Joe was fully in the spirit of soul jazz, as well as pretty well any other kind of jazz too. There were and are few players who focus on hard bop, verging into the avant garde of the day, who could or would even be interested in trying to get it. It may not be much of a plus for Joe Henderson, the musician, but it's a big plus for Joe Henderson the man.

MG

[JSngry]

3 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

and if anyone is holding a minty fresh Henderson's Habiliment, please let me know!

I had no idea what that was until looking it up.

[JSngry]

27 minutes ago, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Yeah, it's not great, but it does have a certain importance. Like Johnny 'Hammond' Smith's 'Higher ground' it shows that Joe was fully in the spirit of soul jazz, as well as pretty well any other kind of jazz too. There were and are few players who focus on hard bop, verging into the avant garde of the day, who could or would even be interested in trying to get it. It may not be much of a plus for Joe Henderson, the musician, but it's a big plus for Joe Henderson the man.

MG

I think it also shows that Joe had serious career ambitions, or at least attempted to. Remember how he joined Blood, Sweat & Tears for a quick minute when they re-formed?

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

22 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I think it also shows that Joe had serious career ambitions, or at least attempted to. Remember how he joined Blood, Sweat & Tears for a quick minute when they re-formed?

I always forget about that.

BST never meant a thing to me.

MG

[JSngry]

It meant enough to Joe that he took the gig for a quick minute. Never got past rehearsals, but apparently there were endorsement deals out the ass as soon as he joined.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

2 minutes ago, JSngry said:

It meant enough to Joe that he took the gig for a quick minute. Never got past rehearsals, but apparently there were endorsement deals out the ass as soon as he joined.

Oh, he never played with the band in public, but Adidas or someone offered him money?

Bright spark, Joe

The world never fails to amuse me.

MG

[HutchFan]

22 hours ago, Mark Stryker said:

I'd guess that "Mode for Joe" ranks high for people because the compositions and larger ensemble give the record an approachable quality that's different from the others. For me, however, "Inner Urge" is the clear No. 1 -- it's not even close -- with In 'N Out"  in the No. 2 position, "Mode for Joe" at No. 3 and then "Our Thing" and "Page One" are basically tied. That may underrate "Our Thing" but that one was out of print when I was young and I didn't get it until it was reissued in the mid '80s and by then I had learned every groove of the others so it wasn't really a fair fight.  

I've always thought of Mode for Joe as being sorta like Coltrane's Africa/Brass.  Interesting, but slightly off to the side.