clifford_thornton Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 On 11/14/2015, 1:35:39, sidewinder said: All the ones I have both look and sound great. I particularly like the attention to detail with the LP sleeve facsimiles. The Tubby Hayes Tempos are particularly good - considering they are needle drops. no tapes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 C.P.U (Cosmic Pulsation Unity - s/t [Denon Jazz] another jump into unchartered Japanese waters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 55 minutes ago, mjazzg said: C.P.U (Cosmic Pulsation Unity - s/t [Denon Jazz] another jump into unchartered Japanese waters Excellent record! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 10 minutes ago, Homefromtheforest said: Excellent record! Â It is indeed. The copy could be cleaner but the music wins out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I haven't spun this one in ages. Need to dig it out again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: no tapes? All the Tempos were lost a long time ago IÂ think, presumably destroyed by Philips (Tony Hall has confirmed as much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 ah, ok. So the Jasmines are needle-drops as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Miles Davis & Sonny Stitt: Live in Stockholm 1960 (Dragon) Listening to this last night, I heard one man immersed in his music and another man playing for a paycheck. Perhaps a harsh opinion, but a true one for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I won't ask which was which.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 this is good for 5 bucks, rt? Â Â this is good for 50 bucks, rt? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 that Mobley is obliterated. Did you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 11 hours ago, paul secor said: Miles Davis & Sonny Stitt: Live in Stockholm 1960 (Dragon) Listening to this last night, I heard one man immersed in his music and another man playing for a paycheck. Perhaps a harsh opinion, but a true one for me. I tend to go for the spring, 1960 tour with Coltrane, because I feel similarly about Stitt's playing on the fall tour. But years ago a friend pointed out something about the tour with Stitt, and I've found it to be true: Miles really bears down on the Stitt dates - he plays. My guess is the he didn't hear/feel much coming from Stitt and felt he had to make up for that. By contrast, there are moments from the spring Coltrane tour when Miles seems to be - well, not coasting; I wouldn't go that far - but not stretching himself, because he knows that Coltrane is pushing himself to the limit. Does this make any sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 yup. Now: Phil Pearlman - The Beat of the Earth - (Artistic Statement, new reissue/boot) Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 31 minutes ago, jeffcrom said: I tend to go for the spring, 1960 tour with Coltrane, because I feel similarly about Stitt's playing on the fall tour. But years ago a friend pointed out something about the tour with Stitt, and I've found it to be true: Miles really bears down on the Stitt dates - he plays. My guess is the he didn't hear/feel much coming from Stitt and felt he had to make up for that. By contrast, there are moments from the spring Coltrane tour when Miles seems to be - well, not coasting; I wouldn't go that far - but not stretching himself, because he knows that Coltrane is pushing himself to the limit. Does this make any sense? Yes. Miles id definitely playing to the max on this record. I'll have to listen again to the Trane recordings before I comment on his playing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015  5 hours ago, jeffcrom said: I tend to go for the spring, 1960 tour with Coltrane, because I feel similarly about Stitt's playing on the fall tour. But years ago a friend pointed out something about the tour with Stitt, and I've found it to be true: Miles really bears down on the Stitt dates - he plays. My guess is the he didn't hear/feel much coming from Stitt and felt he had to make up for that. By contrast, there are moments from the spring Coltrane tour when Miles seems to be - well, not coasting; I wouldn't go that far - but not stretching himself, because he knows that Coltrane is pushing himself to the limit. Does this make any sense? I saw the Davis/Stitt band on this tour.  Just out of my teenage years.  I don't remember too much about it except what was played was hot and totally unexpected.  We were definitely not prepared for it from the recordings  available at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) 4 hours ago, JohnS said:  I saw the Davis/Stitt band on this tour.  Just out of my teenage years.  I don't remember too much about it except what was played was hot and totally unexpected.  We were definitely not prepared for it from the recordings  available at the time. So sorry to have missed that gig. They were at the Free Trade Hall when I was a student in Manchester. However, it was during the university vacation and I was at home with my parents in Leeds. My Manchester student friend, the late Jack Massarik, managed to make the gig. Edited November 18, 2015 by BillF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corto maltese Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 20 hours ago, paul secor said: Miles Davis & Sonny Stitt: Live in Stockholm 1960 (Dragon) Listening to this last night, I heard one man immersed in his music and another man playing for a paycheck. Perhaps a harsh opinion, but a true one for me. Â 20 hours ago, AllenLowe said: I won't ask which was which.... Â This reminds me of first hearing a Japanese CD-set of Miles' Blackhawk recordings with Hank Mobley and noticing that some of the (very long) solos had been heavily edited on the original LP's. I won't tell whose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 The Best of Muddy Waters (Chess) black label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Trane with Miles in Paris in 1960 is, for me, a sci-fi like experience, you want to know what time warping ahead forward and when back again, that's what that date is. As the tour goes on, Trane pulls back a little, probably out of fear of people dying and shit, but I do sense that Miles was in awe at Trane, that's why he begged him to make the tour, because he so seriously wanted that, especially as he realized that he wasn't gonna have it, potentially, ever again. But for Stitt, yes, he was playing for a paycheck, but keep in mind, playing was his paycheck, and he came up in a place and time where if you failed, your paycheck would probably not be there, so...higher stakes than just "getting paid". Cats like that always paid for a paycheck, either right then, or tomorrow. Which is not to say that he never coasted, oh jeez, the man was one of the best non-big-band coasters ever. But the worst of it came later, when he was established and could afford to, the daggers weren't everywhere, too much time and competition had passed and he was a beloved club draw no matter what, so fuck it, just have a record out, any kind of record, let them know you're still alive and the gigs will be there. In 1960, the dude still had to play, even at his coasting level, especially with Miles! Pulled this out the other day, just to hear "Don't Get Sassy", totally rockindiculous stuff. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Samara Lubelski - The Fleeting Skies - (De Stijl, US) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 hours ago, JSngry said:  Pulled this out the other day, just to hear "Don't Get Sassy", totally rockindiculous stuff.  Not often that you would find an original Blue Note at £1 at Mole Jazz but that's what that one cost me. Pretty well the dustiest couple of records I ever bought though, sneezed for a week afterwards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Joe Henderson "tetragon" (milestone, USA) Woody Shaw "blackstone legacy" (contemporary, stereo USA) Up next if I can stay awake: Masabumi Kikuchi "matrix" (Victor Japan Think! reissue) Akira Ishikawa "electrum" (Victor Japan Think! reissue) Both of these in gatefold replica sleeves..the Japanese sure know how to reissue stuff properly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corto maltese Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 hours ago, Homefromtheforest said: Joe Henderson "tetragon" (milestone, USA) Woody Shaw "blackstone legacy" (contemporary, stereo USA) Up next if I can stay awake: Masabumi Kikuchi "matrix" (Victor Japan Think! reissue) Akira Ishikawa "electrum" (Victor Japan Think! reissue) Both of these in gatefold replica sleeves..the Japanese sure know how to reissue stuff properly!! Those Think! reissues are CD's, aren't they? Both albums have just been reissued on vinyl by HMV Japan. "Matrix" is fine (maybe a bit conservative), but "Electrum", I don't know... I've tried several times because I felt I should like it a lot (time, context, players), but I gave up and didn't keep it. "Blackstone Legacy" is an old favourite; I think it was one of the first straight jazz records I bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Oops yes I meant HMV. I don't think "matrix" was ever reissued on CD though..this vinyl sounds much nicer then my crappy catalyst reissue I got rid of years ago. "electrum" didn't knock me out when I first got the reissue CD that came out some years ago; but repeated listenings have rewarded me..I think the vinyl sounds a bit better then the CD for what it's worth. Â I hear what you are saying though - from the cast of players you'd expect an all out masterpiece! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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