clifford_thornton Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Francois Tusques - Le Nouveau Jazz - (Mouloudji, FR) Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Yikes! Clean copy?Don't drop it Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 quite. Not drunk (tonight)... Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 If it's the copy that sold on ebay recently that's a good deal; geez only $25 more then the Japanese press that sold for $300 a few months back!? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 nah, got it from a shop in France a while back. It was more expensive than the one that just sold. We bantered about this some time ago I thought! Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Really? Can't recall. But I'm on my second glass of Hopworks IPA and currently spinning: Barre Phillips "journal violone II" (ECM, Germany) Next up: Kenny Wheeler "around 6" (ECM, Germany). Started many years ago with an American pressing, got a Japanese pressing years later, and now just got this new/sealed dead stock German copy for a great price recently. Will be curious to compare the sonics to my Japanese issue... Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) So just finished "around 6" by Kenny Wheeler and it seems this German pressing is a bit more dynamic sounding then my Japanese press. Hmm.. Right now: Miles Davis "Pangaea" (Sony, Japan) record 1 Edited February 11, 2015 by Homefromtheforest Quote
erwbol Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Right now: Miles Davis "Pangaea" (Sony, Japan) record 1 Ooh! Now that I'm on speakers again, Agharta and Pangea are high on my playlist, though I think they are more appropriate for a hot summer day or night. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Well "Pangaea" is sounding pretty awesome right now after a hard days work and a few beers mixed in I must say that my system is sounding very great lately since I upgraded my speakers (paradigm studio 60 v2) and amp( anthem mrx500)... Edited February 11, 2015 by Homefromtheforest Quote
sidewinder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Jackie McLean 'It's Time' (BN NYC mono) 'The Fabulous Fats Navarro Vol 2' (BN Lexington) Quote
corto maltese Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 nah, got it from a shop in France a while back. It was more expensive than the one that just sold. We bantered about this some time ago I thought! Original copies of "Free jazz" are actually not that difficult to find (for a mid 60s European free jazz record that is). I wonder about variations in the size of the pressings of some of these avant garde titles on disques Mouloudji: I've seen ten times more "Free jazz" than "Le nouveau jazz". The same goes for two André Almuro titles from the same period: "Le condamné à mort" versus "Avec" (but that can probably be explained by the fact that the first one was a collaboration with the label boss himself...). On my turntable now: Jimmy Giuffre 3 "Music for people, birds, butterflies & mosquitoes" on Choice. Silly title and not a very attractive cover, but the music is fine. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, I've got both - Free Jazz comes up a fair amount, although usually in less than stellar condition. The vinyl on mine is nice, the thin matte cover has some wear. I was told by Tusques there were no more than 500 of each, but who knows what the real count is. I guess FT wasn't paid for either one. Never had the Almuro titles or the Colette Magny on Mouloudji... Quote
corto maltese Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 It's most unlikely that "Free Jazz" was such a tiny pressing. I didn't know François Tusques wasn't paid for these sessions. What's the story? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 When I interviewed him in 2003, he said he never saw any money from Mouloudji or Festival, though I think he was paid for the In Situ reissue and certainly the Cacophonic reissues are legit. He has copies of the masters at least. Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) I should probably post this in the 78 thread, but it somehow seems relevant to the vinyl-in-general thread. Tonight I'm playing three longish-playing microgroove 78s on the Audiophile label, from the 1950s: Harry Blons - Harry Blons' Dixieland Band Doc Evans - Traditional Jazz, Vol. 2 Doc Evans - Traditional Jazz, Vol. 4 I couldn't find pictures of these specific records individually, but they look like those in the picture above. I've had these records for awhile, but I'm hearing them for the first time tonight as they were meant to sound. I'm spinning them on my new Rek-O-Kut turntable, which finally gives me the flexibility I've been wanting - continuously variable speeds, so that I can play LPs, 45s, and 78s with stereo or mono LP cartridges or a 78 cartridge with different sized styli. This will replace my former LP and 78 turntables. It will take some experimentation to work all this out, but I'm excited by the prospect of getting the optimal sound for every record on my shelves. I can finally play my one 19th-century record, a disc by saxophonist Eugene Moermanns on the Berliner label, at the right speed (around 71 RPM). I'll be able to play vertically-cut 78s, like Edisons. And I even have some stereo 78s (Bryan Wright playing Bix Beiderbecke's Modern Piano Suite, recorded in 2009) that I'll finally be able to play in stereo. Jeffery's a happy boy tonight. Anyway, these Audiophile 78s sound wonderful. Ewing Nunn was a recording genius. He thought that his microgroove 78s had the best sound of any records, but his 33 RPM LPs sound pretty great, too. And I hate the name "Rek-O-Kut," but what a great table for my needs. Edited February 12, 2015 by jeffcrom Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Bryan Wright - Bix Beiderbecke's Modern Piano Suite (Rivermont). Two microgroove stereo 78s. Very cool, and excellent music - I think I like "In the Dark" as well as the better-known "In a Mist." Quote
JSngry Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 What was the theory behind a microgroove 78 being an improvement? Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 What was the theory behind a microgroove 78 being an improvement? Speed. All things being equal, the faster a disc spins, the better it will sound, hence the audiophile 45 RPM reissues of Blue Note albums. The reason old 78s don't give audiophile sound is that they are pressed from noisy material, which is all they had at the time. Nunn's 12" vinyl microgroove 78s sound wonderful, but weren't very practical - I didn't time them, but they seem to have about eight minutes of music per side, and many folks didn't have have a 78 player with a microgroove stylus. Heck, I didn't until today. Quote
JSngry Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Right, i get the speed part, that's true with tape as well of course, just don't get the microgroove part. I mean, bigger grooves should allow for more information, no? Or is it a thing that you couldn't get those bigass grooves into vinyl in a cost-effective manner? Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 I think that's it's more a matter of practicality and playing time - a coarse-grooved 12" 78 will only hold about four-and-a-half or five minutes of music. By the time vinyl and LPs came along, that wasn't acceptable for consumers. Quote
JSngry Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Imagine the sonics if non-microgroove vinyl 78s had become the medium of choice for singles instead of 45s...then again, imagine if Joe DiMaggio had played tenor with Count Basie instead of Buddy Tate? No sense in imagining either one, right? Yet...market driving format drive me crazy sometimes, but I guess that's just how stuff works. Being right trumped by guessing right. Quote
Clunky Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Joe Henderson----------Mode for Joe----------(BN NYC) mono I'd forgotten how good this session was. It's not JH's strongest BN but more than decent. Next........ Wayne Shorter--------Night Dreamer--------(BN NYC) mono Similar feelings to the Henderson above. For a long time I didn't rate this much compared to what was to come on BN. Lee Morgan's presence might suggest a Messengers performance but it sounds more advance (to my unsophisticated ears). Juju and SNE remain ahead but thus can't be too far behind, along with a bunch of others. Quote
tomatamot Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 'THE RONNIE SCOTT QUARTET - 1612 OVERTURE' Quote
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