colinmce Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... Quote
Clunky Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... Like wise , fine sounding German edition Quote
Clunky Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Last Exit ------------s/t--------(Enemy) Perfect for this Saturday morning - listening with headphones. Quote
jeffcrom Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Last Exit ------------s/t--------(Enemy) Perfect for this Saturday morning - listening with headphones. You're a tougher soul than me, Clunky. I love Last Exit, but I can't listen to them in the morning. I have to ease into the day, with something like: Jack Wilson - Brazilian Mancini (Vault mono). Better than the concept-within-a-concept would suggest. Mr. Jobim himself is on guitar, although under a pseudonym. It's good for what it is - not profound, and it's perfect for the amount of attention I want to give it right now. And it offers a generous 13 minutes of playing time per side! Quote
colinmce Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... I admit I only have the CD, but the bass is the typical 70s sound: clear, thin, and rubbery. The drums are distant and tinny. Generally no depth with kind of an odd balance. Maybe I'd be happier with a German LP. But like I said, it comes off as typically terrible 70s production to me. I'd rather it were ECM'd! Quote
kh1958 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, Down Home Blues (Prestige/Bluesville) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... I admit I only have the CD, but the bass is the typical 70s sound: clear, thin, and rubbery. The drums are distant and tinny. Generally no depth with kind of an odd balance. Maybe I'd be happier with a German LP. But like I said, it comes off as typically terrible 70s production to me. I'd rather it were ECM'd! I have a US pressing that doesn't sound too great - fairly "dull" although the music is awesome - would prefer the German to compare the sound. Quote
jeffcrom Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Paul Bley/Bill Connors/Jimmy Giuffre - Quiet Song (Improvising Artists). A source of wonder to me for many years. Quote
Clunky Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Cecil Payne-----The Connection ---- (Charlie Parker Records) UK stereo Strong session. Very good pressing in excellent condition, sounding great despite being a "budget" 1962 release. Quote
mjazzg Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. Quote
mjazzg Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Luther Thomas - 11th Street Fire Suite [Creative Consciousness] Quote
kh1958 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Budd Johnson, Off the Wall (Argo) Quote
sidewinder Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Cecil Payne-----The Connection ---- (Charlie Parker Records) UK stereo Strong session. Very good pressing in excellent condition, sounding great despite being a "budget" 1962 release. Weren't those pressed somewhere in Lancashire? I have the feeling that it was something to do with that budget label Everest. Edited December 14, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
jeffcrom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Archie Shepp & Philly Joe Jones (Fantasy), with basically the same cover as the America issue shown here. Quote
B. Clugston Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Warne Marsh, All Music (Nessa) Steve Lacy, Lapis (Saravah, Japan) Steve Lacy, The Forest and The Zoo (Base reissue) Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. That's certainly a great one and in my top few Wheelers as well. Love the opening track and Vesala shines throughout. Started with a USA pressing and now own a Japanese pressing. May one day try a German pressing just for comparisons sake as it is a gem... Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Tonight's spins: Art Blakey "the big beat" (blue note, 47 w 63rd DG stereo) Hank Mobley "s/t" (blue note 1568, mono Japan King) Embryo "we keep on" (BASF, Germany) Spontaneous Music Ensemble "oliv" (marmalade, UK) Quote
jeffcrom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Earl Hines - My Tribute to Louis (Audiophile). A Chuck Nessa recommendation. Quote
paul secor Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Chico Freeman: Spirit Sensitive Quote
colinmce Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Earl Hines - My Tribute to Louis (Audiophile). A Chuck Nessa recommendation. Never seen that one. Looks great. Edited December 15, 2014 by colinmce Quote
sidewinder Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. That's certainly a great one and in my top few Wheelers as well. Love the opening track and Vesala shines throughout. Started with a USA pressing and now own a Japanese pressing. May one day try a German pressing just for comparisons sake as it is a gem... The German pressing of that one sounds predictably nice ! Quote
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