paul secor Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) SOCIAL STUDIES - Carla Bley Band - Watt/ECM LP. (`1981). A clever and pleasing album. I'll agree with the clever part. Edited February 21, 2014 by paul secor Quote
mjazzg Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 John Tchicai - Tribal Ghost [2013, No Business] Marvellous Quote
Leeway Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 SOCIAL STUDIES - Carla Bley Band - Watt/ECM LP. (`1981). A clever and pleasing album. I'll agree with the clever part. It's taken me a while to gain at least some appreciation for what Carla Bley does (or tries to do) in her music, so I'm sympathetic to others lack of response (I still find enough to fault). This album seems to me to be a little easier to access. What do you not like about it Paul? I'd be interested in your thoughts on it, or her work generally, if you would care to share them. Continuing the theme: THE CARLA BLEY BAND: EUROPEAN TOUR 1977 - Watt LP. Great band: Andrew Cyrille, Elton Dean, Hugh Hopper, Roswell Rudd, et al. Quote
Leeway Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 RAMBLIN' - Paul Bley (p), Mark Levinson (b), Barry Altschul (d). Affinity LP. 1979. I'm going to guess that Mark Levinson made more from his brand of amplifiers and electronics than he ever made as a bassist. Quote
Clunky Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 John Tchicai - Tribal Ghost [2013, No Business] Marvellous I've wondered about this one . I've had mixed experience of No Business pressings . How's this one? Quote
paul secor Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 SOCIAL STUDIES - Carla Bley Band - Watt/ECM LP. (`1981). A clever and pleasing album. I'll agree with the clever part. It's taken me a while to gain at least some appreciation for what Carla Bley does (or tries to do) in her music, so I'm sympathetic to others lack of response (I still find enough to fault). This album seems to me to be a little easier to access. What do you not like about it Paul? I'd be interested in your thoughts on it, or her work generally, if you would care to share them. Continuing the theme: THE CARLA BLEY BAND: EUROPEAN TOUR 1977 - Watt LP. Great band: Andrew Cyrille, Elton Dean, Hugh Hopper, Roswell Rudd, et al. At one point in time, I enjoyed Carla Bley's records. Actually, Social Studies was where I got off. Going back and listening over the years - and more so these days - I find that cleverness (to borrow your term) outweighs substance by a good margin. I also find that many of the musicians in her bands did better work elsewhere. That may or may not have been her fault. All this is just my opinion. I hope you don't let it influence you. I don't want to take away any enjoyment that someone else finds in music. Quote
Leeway Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 SOCIAL STUDIES - Carla Bley Band - Watt/ECM LP. (`1981). A clever and pleasing album. I'll agree with the clever part. It's taken me a while to gain at least some appreciation for what Carla Bley does (or tries to do) in her music, so I'm sympathetic to others lack of response (I still find enough to fault). This album seems to me to be a little easier to access. What do you not like about it Paul? I'd be interested in your thoughts on it, or her work generally, if you would care to share them. Continuing the theme: THE CARLA BLEY BAND: EUROPEAN TOUR 1977 - Watt LP. Great band: Andrew Cyrille, Elton Dean, Hugh Hopper, Roswell Rudd, et al. At one point in time, I enjoyed Carla Bley's records. Actually, Social Studies was where I got off. Going back and listening over the years - and more so these days - I find that cleverness (to borrow your term) outweighs substance by a good margin. I also find that many of the musicians in her bands did better work elsewhere. That may or may not have been her fault. All this is just my opinion. I hope you don't let it influence you. I don't want to take away any enjoyment that someone else finds in music. Thank you Paul for your thoughts; perceptive as usual. I would not really disagree with them; indeed, they form(ed) some of my own reservations. However, lately I've been more willing to accept Carla Bley more on her own terms than mine. If that values cleverness over feeling, group over individual, then so be it. I'm interested in the fact that she has been making music, compositions and arrangements for over 50 years, and I suppose that requires some investigation. So I've been looking at her from those angles and seeing what I can make of it. BTW, I was recently reading an interview with Carla Bley from about 10 years ago, but still relevant and quite interesting: http://www.newmusicbox.org/articles/on-her-own-carla-bley/ You can tell from the interview, she is hard on her groups, which goes to the point you made about musicians who work with her (or for her maybe more accurate). Still, an interesting figure in modern music. LIBERATION MUSIC ORCHESTRA - Charlie Haden. Arrangement by Carla Bley. Impulse! LP. I suspect extra-musical considerations may affect one's response to this album, but for me, it really works and is standing the test of time. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 What brand is this? Levinson. Quote
Larry Kart Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 Karel Husa, String Quartet No. 3, Fine Arts Quartet (Everest) Byron Janis, Rachmaninov Concerto 3, Munch (Victrola) and Dorati (Mercury) Mozart Oboe Quartet, Ray Still and friends (Angel) Brahms Violin Concerto, Francescatti, Bernstein, NYPO (Columbia) Don't know that piece, but I likes me some Karel Husa. It's a good one -- at once very Bartokian and quite individual. Won the 1969 Pulitzer Prize, FWIW. Based on the Husa I know, when he wrote something, he really meant it. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 I picked up a record collection from a co-worker's house. The stuff has been stored in the attic and basement for decades. All classic rock. I'm going through it and almost half of it is warped. It must be the stuff that was up in the attic. Some cool stuff in the warped pile. The Stones' "Sticky Fingers" with the real zipper. A numbered Beatles White Album (trashed vinyl anyway). Spinning some seldom heard stuff (for me). I'm now remembering why it was seldom heard in my house back then. Quote
mjazzg Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 John Tchicai - Tribal Ghost [2013, No Business] Marvellous I've wondered about this one . I've had mixed experience of No Business pressings . How's this one? No complaints here. Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 Murray Lehrer - Freilach in Hi-Fi (Period). With the great Dave Tarras on clarinet. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 Spontaneous Music Ensemble - For You To Share - (A Records, UK) Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 Artie Shaw - The Sideman Years (Sounds of Swing). This has some rare tracks along with some more common stuff. I particularly like the 1934 Wingy Mannone session with Shaw, Dickie Wells, Bud Freeman, and Jelly Roll Morton. Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 Murray Lehrer with Dave Tarras - Freilach in Hi-Fi Vol. 3 (Period) Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 Kid Thomas Valentine + The Hall Brothers Jazz Band (GHB mono). A 1964 meeting between four veteran New Orleans musicians and four (very) young Minnesota revivalists. Quote
colinmce Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 John Tchicai - Tribal Ghost [2013, No Business] Marvellous I've wondered about this one . I've had mixed experience of No Business pressings . How's this one? No complaints here. Except the price .... Quote
mjazzg Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 John Tchicai - Tribal Ghost [2013, No Business] Marvellous I've wondered about this one . I've had mixed experience of No Business pressings . How's this one? No complaints here. Except the price .... Indeed. No Business vinyl is treat only territory. Quote
Clunky Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 t the thread on Bethlehem reissues had me dig these two vinyls out. The Pete Brown is a 10 inch Quote
sidewinder Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 A bit earler - Carla Bley 'Heavy Heart' (German Watt) Quote
Clunky Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 A bit earler - Carla Bley 'Heavy Heart' (German Watt) apologies to Carla but I ditched my copy of this quite recently. Didn't do much for me. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 A bit earler - Carla Bley 'Heavy Heart' (German Watt) apologies to Carla but I ditched my copy of this quite recently. Didn't do much for me. Hmm - I like it ! There again, I've had my copy for 30 years.. Quote
Clunky Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) A bit earler - Carla Bley 'Heavy Heart' (German Watt) apologies to Carla but I ditched my copy of this quite recently. Didn't do much for me.Hmm - I like it ! There again, I've had my copy for 30 years.. In fairness to this LP I was wanting to create some space on the shelves to make space for newer stuff and this got spotted and identified as something I didn't play often. In a rare moment of ruthlessness it and 60 other LPs were gone. Edited February 23, 2014 by Clunky Quote
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