jazzcorner Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 MPS/Crystal 066CRY 45794 - Francy Boland "Out Of The Background" - rec. 1967 - Engineer: Wolfgang Hirschmann Quote
mikeweil Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 (edited) MPS day, it seems 😉 Edited February 22 by mikeweil Quote
Pim Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 pretty much the only Jarret that gets spun regularly here to be honest. But this one is exceptionally good I must admit. Quote
kh1958 Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 Johnny Lytle, A Man and A Woman (Solid State) Mahmoud Chouki, Caravan: From Marrakech to New Orleans (Gallatin). Fabulous recording and one of the best releases of 2024, finally available in physical form.. Quote
aparxa Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 The Lloyd McNeill Quartet – Washington Suite Lee Morgan – The Gigolo Rabih Abou-Khalil – Arabian Waltz Quote
mjazzg Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Pim said: pretty much the only Jarret that gets spun regularly here to be honest. But this one is exceptionally good I must admit. Pretty much the only Jarrett that gets spun here too Quote
JSngry Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Pim said: pretty much the only Jarret that gets spun regularly here to be honest. But this one is exceptionally good I must admit. Is that because of Dewey's or Jarrett's higher level there? Or both? or something else? I agree that it's an above -average date! Quote
optatio Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 19 hours ago, mikeweil said: MPS day, it seems 😉 👍 Quote
Pim Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 (edited) 12 hours ago, JSngry said: Is that because of Dewey's or Jarrett's higher level there? Or both? or something else? I agree that it's an above -average date! Good question Jim. I think it’s because of a few reasons. I must say I like the American quartet better than the European because I enjoy Dewey Redmans playing where Jan Garbareks leaves me cold. I also like Jarret better playing originals than standards. But still most of Jarretts Impulse! output is not my kind of stuff. The album Fort Yawuh to me is a perfect example of the inconsistency of his works. The title track on that record is amazing, the rest of the album not even close to that level. What I like about the Survivors Suite is: 1. It’s consistently good from the beginning till the end. 2. The composition: it’s catchy and exciting in every way. 3. Everyone’s playing: Haden is great, Redmans in fire, Motian solid as a rock and Jarrett is playing very good as well. I hate it when Jarrett is doing that fiddling endlessly. Not sure how to describe it in English. He does it a lot on his solo outings. He keeps playing all this note and I have no idea what he’s trying to say or where he’s going. He does not do that here. His playing has an excellent structure all throughout. 4. the Eastern feel of it. I am sensitive to that kind of thing. 5. A bit lame from me but still: not a lot of yodeling, groaning, squeeking, barking and other vocal qualities by Mr. Jarrett on this. I just can’t stand that. The combination of these things makes The Survivor’s Suite a ‘70’s jazz favorite of mine. Edited February 23 by Pim Quote
mjazzg Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 43 minutes ago, Pim said: I hate it when Jarrett is doing that fiddling endlessly. Not sure how to describe it in English. That's just how you describe it in English 😀 Jarrett to me is such an over- and self-indulgent play who "fiddles" more often than not. I realise this is a minority view but I'm happy in that minority, seemingly with Pim. I think Survivors Suite is such a success simply because his playing is leavened by the others' contributions more than on other recordings. And because it's a great composition. Where I disagree with @Pim is that I think the European Quartet players achieve this too on some recordings, 'Nude Ants' and 'Belonging' being examples. I can really only listen to Jarrett when he's in a band with horns. 20 hours ago, Pim said: What's that @Pim? Not a name I know at all. Will have to go and research now it's on your playlist 3 minutes ago, mjazzg said: What's that @Pim? Not a name I know at all. Will have to go and research now it's on your playlist Aha, Waldron! Now I know why... Quote
Pim Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 1 hour ago, mjazzg said: That's just how you describe it in English 😀 Jarrett to me is such an over- and self-indulgent play who "fiddles" more often than not. I realise this is a minority view but I'm happy in that minority, seemingly with Pim. I think Survivors Suite is such a success simply because his playing is leavened by the others' contributions more than on other recordings. And because it's a great composition. Where I disagree with @Pim is that I think the European Quartet players achieve this too on some recordings, 'Nude Ants' and 'Belonging' being examples. I can really only listen to Jarrett when he's in a band with horns. What's that @Pim? Not a name I know at all. Will have to go and research now it's on your playlist Aha, Waldron! Now I know why... You know me.... Must say I got to know him trough Mal but Weiss made some excellent records. On Tour is even better with the same musicians. Some very talented and underappreciated German musicians. The Git Go is also very good. That's with Billy Harper. Don't be spooked by it's horrible cover art Quote
mjazzg Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 40 minutes ago, Pim said: Don't be spooked by it's horrible cover art What were they thinking? Quote
JSngry Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Pim said: Good question Jim. I think it’s because of a few reasons. I must say I like the American quartet better than the European because I enjoy Dewey Redmans playing where Jan Garbareks leaves me cold. I also like Jarret better playing originals than standards. But still most of Jarretts Impulse! output is not my kind of stuff. The album Fort Yawuh to me is a perfect example of the inconsistency of his works. The title track on that record is amazing, the rest of the album not even close to that level. What I like about the Survivors Suite is: 1. It’s consistently good from the beginning till the end. 2. The composition: it’s catchy and exciting in every way. 3. Everyone’s playing: Haden is great, Redmans in fire, Motian solid as a rock and Jarrett is playing very good as well. I hate it when Jarrett is doing that fiddling endlessly. Not sure how to describe it in English. He does it a lot on his solo outings. He keeps playing all this note and I have no idea what he’s trying to say or where he’s going. He does not do that here. His playing has an excellent structure all throughout. 4. the Eastern feel of it. I am sensitive to that kind of thing. 5. A bit lame from me but still: not a lot of yodeling, groaning, squeeking, barking and other vocal qualities by Mr. Jarrett on this. I just can’t stand that. The combination of these things makes The Survivor’s Suite a ‘70’s jazz favorite of mine. I hear you on all of that! Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 (edited) On 2/22/2025 at 2:35 PM, mikeweil said: MPS day, it seems 😉 Yes MPS had a rich program. Great sounding recordings with Oscar Peterson and my favorite vocal group "Singers Unlimited" as well also some early recordings with Monty Alexander and a bunch of the great KC-FB big band. For the german jazzfans I would recommend this one Edited February 23 by jazzcorner scans Quote
kh1958 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 Johnny Lytle, Happy Ground (Riverside) The Legendary Buster Smith (Atlantic) Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey & Anthony Braxton Quote
aparxa Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 Freddie Hubbard – Backlash Donald Byrd – At The Half Note Cafe (75 & Marconi) Dollar Brand – Soweto Quote
mjazzg Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Evan Parker, Derek Bailey & Anthony Braxton Great album Quote
Pim Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 (edited) Wrong thread Edited February 24 by Pim Quote
aparxa Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 6 hours ago, Pim said: Beautiful! Charlie Parker - The Dial Masters Vol. 1 & 2 Jean Cohen-Solal – Captain Tarthopom Quote
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