HutchFan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 Randy Weston - Zulu (Milestone, 2 LPs) compilation of Weston's Riverside recordings -- wonderful 1 hour ago, JSngry said: People scoff at Trip today, but at the time, they were a godsend! Am I "sitting in the seat of scoffers"? I know I've accumulated a bunch of them over the years. They don't cost much, and that's nice. OTOH, the audio/pressing quality is often far from ideal. But I hear you. If there are no other alternatives, something is definitely better than nothing. Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 Some of that Max stuff barely had a release to begin with. And with very few exceptions, Emarcy/Mercury had dried up a long time ago. So yeah, MUCH better than nothing!!!! Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 9 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now on my turntable: Cheapo Trip LP reissue I'd rather play the CD than a Trip LP. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, bresna said: I'd rather play the CD than a Trip LP. Sure, I get that. I'd probably get rid of the Trip LP if I had the music on CD. But I don't. Back when the Mosaic set came out, I was raising my family and didn't have two nickels to rub together! Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 CDs weren't even a product when those Trip LPs came out. Trip LPs gave you a good 10 or more years of lead time to listen to those great records. Don't feel bad about missing the Mosaic....more than half of my current Mosaic holdings were bought on the after-market. I too was having to put money into the family and missed a LOT of the good stuff. But time has been good (enough) to me and my patience has been rewarded. Quote
BillF Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 15 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now on my turntable: Quote
HutchFan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 Now spinning: Charlie Palmieri - Gigante Hits (Alegre, rel. 1978) I love Charlie Palmieri's piano playing -- but when he sits down at the organ... LOOK OUT! Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, HutchFan said: Sure, I get that. I'd probably get rid of the Trip LP if I had the music on CD. But I don't. Back when the Mosaic set came out, I was raising my family and didn't have two nickels to rub together! I don't have the Mosaic box. I bought the expanded (10 tracks) CD years before that Mosaic box was released. It's got Mobley on it. How could I resist? I see that it was produced by Bob Shad. I wonder if R. Ellen wrote all the music? Quote
HutchFan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, bresna said: I don't have the Mosaic box. I bought the expanded (10 tracks) CD years before that Mosaic box was released. It's got Mobley on it. How could I resist? Gotcha. Another item for the AQ upgrade list, perhaps. Along with Max, the biggest draw (for me) is Dorham. Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 The pianoless format is what really made it unique for me. Quote
Jon King Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, JSngry said: The pianoless format is what really made it unique for me. Heck, in the 70’s, Trips we’re better than many trips for that matter. This pecking order is marketing - like hot plates in trucks from the factory. IMO 18 hours ago, JSngry said: People scoff at Trip today, but at the time, they were a godsend! Re: pianoless format who began that format Gerry Mulligan w/ Chet Baker (or Bob Brookmeyer, ‘54) Or Max Roach? Quote
Rabshakeh Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now spinning: Charlie Palmieri - Gigante Hits (Alegre, rel. 1978) I love Charlie Palmieri's piano playing -- but when he sits down at the organ... LOOK OUT! Is this a comp? Quote
jazzcorner Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now on my turntable: Cheapo Trip LP reissue Have it on Mercury Excellent LP 4 hours ago, JSngry said: CDs weren't even a product when those Trip LPs came out. Trip LPs gave you a good 10 or more years of lead time to listen to those great records. Don't feel bad about missing the Mosaic....more than half of my current Mosaic holdings were bought on the after-market. I too was having to put money into the family and missed a LOT of the good stuff. But time has been good (enough) to me and my patience has been rewarded. Yes thats the reason I have some TRIP vinyls and keep them and also the other reasons you did mention were important here too!! The pressing quality was ok for me at that time and the music on todays CD reissues is the same. ;-]] On 22.10.2022 at 2:33 PM, Pim said: Oh yes it is I think I am almost halfway now. They were all records I already had on cd but still wanted them on vinyl as that is now my format of preference. I want to have my 4,5 and 5 star albums on vinyl so that’s why one seller had so many of my wantlist probably as they are mostly classic albums. This was the haul: Interesting that you went back the road from CD to vinyl. From all your vinyls displayed here I count 19 in my own vinyl collection. The Cliff Jordan is missing and I will try to get this one. Edited October 25, 2022 by jazzcorner Quote
jazzcorner Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 On 20.10.2022 at 10:28 PM, optatio said: My Atlantic reissue from Japan Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jon King said: Re: pianoless format who began that format Gerry Mulligan w/ Chet Baker (or Bob Brookmeyer, ‘54) Or Max Roach? There were people doing it pre-bop, at least on record dates. For "modern" jazz, though, Mulligan was the first such group that got attention called to itself. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: Is this a comp? Yes. IIRC, it compiles cuts from these three Alegre albums: El Gigante Del Teclado (1972), Vuelve El Gigante (1973), and Adelante, Gigante (1975). I don't have any of those individual albums (yet). Found the comp for a pittance and jumped on it. 2 hours ago, JSngry said: The pianoless format is what really made it unique for me. I love that too. So much air in the music without the piano -- so the rhythm jumps to the foreground (with Max's group). Edited October 25, 2022 by HutchFan Quote
jazzcorner Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 Columbia 20AP 1500 [Japan] - One World Jazz - Adventures In Sound - rec. 1959 Quote
HutchFan Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 Yesterday and again now: Egberto Gismonti & Academia De Danças - Sanfona (ECM, 1981) LP 1 with: - Piano, Guitar, Organ [Indian], Voice – Egberto Gismonti - Soprano Saxophone, Alto Saxophone, Flute – Mauro Senise - Bass – Zeca Assumpção - Drums, Percussion – Nenê Tremendous. I'm hit-or-miss with Gismonti's music, but I admire his eclecticism & the way he takes his music off the beaten path. Like his fellow countrymen Hermeto Pascoal and Milton Nascimento, he's making a stew that doesn't sound like anyone else's. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 Next up: Al Haig - Reminiscence (Progressive Japan, 1977) with Jamil Nasser and Frank Gant Subsequently reissued as Ornithology. Quote
sidewinder Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Just picked up a copy of the Tone Poet - it will be interesting to compare with the Liberty original. Great that they did a TP of this one. Verdict - Original Liberty more exciting, more ‘omph’. Tone Poet more mannered, a bit more precise. Edited October 26, 2022 by sidewinder Quote
HutchFan Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 George Russell's New York Band - Live in an American Time Spiral (Soul Note, rec. 1982) An excellent record, both heady and funky. It reminds me of Gil Evans' albums 80's recordings from Sweet Basil. Very convincing and still evolving. In fact, Live in an American Time Spiral might be Russell's best album (?) after his classics from the late-50s and early-60s. ... I suppose I could put Vertical Form VI (Soul Note, rec. 1977) near the top too. But the Swedish Radio Jazz Orchestra on Vertical isn't quite as convincing as the New York band. Players like Brian Lynch, Tom Harrell, Ray Anderson, Marty Ehrlich, Jerome Harris, Ron McClure, and (especially) Victor Lewis elevate Time Spiral. ... The group on Russell's Blue Notes from the mid-80s -- The African Game and So What -- isn't as distinctive or loaded as the Time Spiral band either, IMO. I'd be interested to hear other listeners' thoughts on recordings from Russell's later years. What say you?!? Quote
JSngry Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 I find enough interest in Russell's Soul Note records to have bought the box, and without regret. As far as this band goes, the earlier released New York Big Band is a real treat, imo, circling back on some earlier pieces played in new(ish) ways. I also don't listen to George Russell albums the same way I do a lot of other "jazz" albums, simply because yes, he was totally "jazz", but he also had his own aims, his own concerns that were his and his alone. So that's what I give him, because lord knows he proved himself more than worthy of getting it. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, JSngry said: I also don't listen to George Russell albums the same way I do a lot of other "jazz" albums, simply because yes, he was totally "jazz", but he also had his own aims, his own concerns that were his and his alone. So that's what I give him, because lord knows he proved himself more than worthy of getting it. Agree 100%. Russell has his own bag. I'll give New York Big Band a close listen. I've heard it once or twice, but I don't know it. Quote
JSngry Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I'll give New York Big Band a close listen. I've heard it once or twice, but I don't know it. Not a bad idea to have a fresh familiarity with the originals on the older items, imo. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 26, 2022 Report Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Not a bad idea to have a fresh familiarity with the originals on the older items, imo. Makes sense to me. On Time Spiral, Russell's famous "Ezz-Thetic" sounds transformed. Quote
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