Chuck Nessa Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Brad said: When I went to work at Delmark/Jazz Record Mart in 1966 Bob Koester claimed Sam Charters (producer of the Vanguard set) stole his "little brown book" to get all the musicians' phone numbers. Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: When I went to work at Delmark/Jazz Record Mart in 1966 Bob Koester claimed Sam Charters (producer of the Vanguard set) stole his "little brown book" to get all the musicians' phone numbers. From what I know of Charters, that sounds plausible. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: When I went to work at Delmark/Jazz Record Mart in 1966 Bob Koester claimed Sam Charters (producer of the Vanguard set) stole his "little brown book" to get all the musicians' phone numbers. While that sounds sleazy, is there a specific reason why these artists wouldn't have wanted their phone numbers more widely known to a producer in the record industry?? Was Charters offense more against Koester than the artists? Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, bresna said: While that sounds sleazy, is there a specific reason why these artists wouldn't have wanted their phone numbers more widely known to a producer in the record industry?? Was Charters offense more against Koester than the artists? Against Koester, I would think. Quote
JSngry Posted May 2, 2022 Report Posted May 2, 2022 It's the Jordi Pooholes business model, just take what you want from whoever has it, period. If you've never been stolen from, maybe it doesn't seem like a big deal? But, you know, you could have just asked. Quote
Brad Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: This is the first I have heard of this compilation. Having read a little about it after seeing this post, I thought it would have a listen. It's amazing stuff, and you can immediately see how hard it hit the music scene at the time. Presumably the Bluesbreakers and Yardbirds etc just stayed up all night listening to these tracks on repeat and forlornly trying to replicate them. This was part of a RSD release last year that included all three volumes. However, Craft just announced they are releasing volume 1 again. Chicago The Blues Today Quote
Pim Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 with Reggie Workman, Michael Carvin and Stanley Cowell Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Pim said: Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way 3 hours ago, Pim said: with Reggie Workman, Michael Carvin and Stanley Cowell Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... Quote
Pim Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... I quitted smoking 4 and a half years ago (not trying to convince you ) but I never took the filter between my teeth either. Looks pretty could though.... It's his brother Ron Bridgewater. Not really impressed by his playing to be honest. Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 Now on my 'table: Steve Kuhn / Sheila Jordan Band - Playground (ECM, 1980) Gorgeous. Quote
porcy62 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Now on my 'table: Steve Kuhn / Sheila Jordan Band - Playground (ECM, 1980) Gorgeous. Not the typical BW photo of ECM: colors and human beings. Eichler was particularly happy the day he approved the cover.😁 Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, porcy62 said: Not the typical BW photo of ECM: colors and human beings. Eichler was particularly happy the day he approved the cover.😁 So true! ... And it's not blurry either! Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 8:14 PM, mjazzg said: Hadley Caliman - Iapetus [Mainstream, 1972] second consecutive spin because it intrigues me Playing this one now. Quite unique. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Great music and some of the all time best musicians involved. But though I like a to smoke a cigarette myself while having coffee or after dinner or after ...... ( ) ........ I wouldn´t bite the filtru that way Is this Cecil Bridgewater ? Who is the else ? The only Bridgewaters I saw live and admired were Cecil and Dee Dee.... Cecil and his brother Ronnie (saxophonist). Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 Jackie & Roy - S/T (MCA, 1982) A compilation of cuts from their four ABC-Paramount LPs, 1956-59 Quote
JSngry Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: Cecil and his brother Ronnie (saxophonist). When did he change to "Ronnie"? And what is he even up to these days? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Jackie & Roy - S/T (MCA, 1982) A compilation of cuts from their four ABC-Paramount LPs, 1956-59 Ever hear "Glasses 'N Ashes 'N Bottles 'N Cans" from an early LP on Brunswick? Quote
HutchFan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Ever hear "Glasses 'N Ashes 'N Bottles 'N Cans" from an early LP on Brunswick? I haven't. Should I look for it? EDIT: Coincidentally, that Brunswick LP is the source of the photo used on the MCA reissue. It's a bit odd because none of the cuts on the Brunswick disc are on the MCA comp. Another oddity: The image is reversed on the MCA reissue. Edited May 3, 2022 by HutchFan Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I haven't. Should I look for it? It's a cute song, about a couple cleaning up after a party. Worth seeking out if you can find it. I think the entire album is on YouTube. Here is the album. It is the next-to-last track. Edited May 4, 2022 by Teasing the Korean Quote
HutchFan Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: It's a cute song, about a couple cleaning up after a party. Worth seeking out if you can find it. I think the entire album is on YouTube. Here is the album. It is the next-to-last track. Very nice. Thanks! Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 It´s possible that Jackie Cain and Roy Kral were not as well known in Austria.... I have read about them as being part of Charlie Ventura´s "Bop for the People" project. Is that true ? Quote
jazzcorner Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Gheorghe said: It´s possible that Jackie Cain and Roy Kral were not as well known in Austria.... I have read about them as being part of Charlie Ventura´s "Bop for the People" project. Is that true ? Yes they are members of the Charlie Ventura unit in a very early live concert 1949 at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium which appeared in 2 parts on 2 different labels (GNP & MCA) Have both and they are phantastic with that Ventura group. Recommend both very much. Quote
Gheorghe Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: Yes they are members of the Charlie Ventura unit in a very early live concert 1949 at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium which appeared in 2 parts on 2 different labels (GNP & MCA) Have both and they are phantastic with that Ventura group. Recommend both very much. Yes, that´s it. In books about jazz in the 40´s like Ira Gitler´s book and others, the "Bop for the people" wasn´t mentioned very much. See, for dudes from Europe who were born after the 40´s , we didn´t know very much about groups that may have had a short time fame, but nevertheless the "Bop for the People" is something I had heard about. And that tune "High on an Open Mike" was for eternity through the 1947 "Saturday Night Jazz Session" which we all bought in the 70´s mostly for the participation of Fats Navarro. I remember my English was very weak and depended on my understanding of the liner notes. But the title "High on an Open Mike" was ununderstandable for me then. "Mike" was the english name for "Mihail" or "Michael" how I knew it and I translated it in "Hoch auf einem offenen Michael" (I think only Google-Translate can do worse), but it is an interesting Ventura original with some "swing to bop" elements. The A part is based on "If I had You" and the bridge is a descending chord thing, very very nice to play really...... Benny Green is really cool, but I think on that WNEW Saturday Night stuff it was Bill Harris on tb, who sounds more old fashioned for our understanding, a bit more Dixieland style if I´m right. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 4, 2022 Report Posted May 4, 2022 20 hours ago, JSngry said: When did he change to "Ronnie"? And what is he even up to these days? I've always heard it as Ronnie among musicians, though you are correct the album credits don't bear that out. He's been teaching for a number of years. Quote
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