JSngry Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 14 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Jim Hall - Concierto (CTI, 1975) First listen to a new acquisition. I’m actually very disappointed with this on vinyl. It sounds like the tracks are playing out of time. This is not something I ever encountered with the digital versions. Is that a known issue with CTI? Even aside from that, it lacks the close mystery of the CD master, and Ron Carter’s horribly recorded bass is much more prominent. I bought that LP when it first came out...don't know what you mean about the tracks "playing out of time"? As for Ron Carter, that was how they did it then. CTI records were often used in stereo stores as demo records, in no small part due to that Ron Carter sound. People don't like it so much these days, but back in the day, it was money. Quote
HutchFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 Now on my 'table: Lester Young - Mean to Me (Verve, 2 LPs) recordings from 1954 and 1955 Quote
Rabshakeh Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 54 minutes ago, JSngry said: I bought that LP when it first came out...don't know what you mean about the tracks "playing out of time"? As for Ron Carter, that was how they did it then. CTI records were often used in stereo stores as demo records, in no small part due to that Ron Carter sound. People don't like it so much these days, but back in the day, it was money. It sounds different to the CD / streamed versions to which I am accustomed, like the timing is wrong. As for Ron Carter, I knew what I was getting into, but it's more noticeable than on the digital versions. Quote
JSngry Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 You mean the track durations are different? As far as CTI vinyl in general, I'd say to stick to first-gen pressings as often as possible. Once they got really popular, and especially once their distribution went to Motown and others, it seemed to become a quantity over quality thing. And absolutely, be ready for Ron Carter, that was a selling point for sure. Subwoofers were not really on the landscape back then, but Ron Carter bass and all the dolbyWhatNot in cinema that got ported over to home theatre and put into cars, hey...an apatite for uber-bass was identified and nurtured, and still exists to this day. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, JSngry said: You mean the track durations are different? It actually sounds like the tracks are out of synch Quote
mjazzg Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 Charlie Haden - the Ballad Of The Fallen [ECM, Germany 1983] such powerful music, horribly apt for today's news Quote
HutchFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 More Prez: Lester Young - Lester Swings (Verve, 2 LPs) recordings from 1945, 1950-51 Quote
BillF Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, HutchFan said: More Prez: Lester Young - Lester Swings (Verve, 2 LPs) recordings from 1945, 1950-51 Quote
HutchFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 Dizzy Gillespie / Lalo Schifrin - The New Continent (Limelight, 1965) Lalo Schifrin : Dizzy :: Gil Evans : Miles Quote
jazzcorner Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Dizzy Gillespie / Lalo Schifrin - The New Continent (Limelight, 1965) Lalo Schifrin : Dizzy :: Gil Evans : Miles Should give it a spin again and dust the item off But at the moment this one first Quote
Shrdlu Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 I had not played any vinyl for years, but I dug out a Savoy LP by Pepper Adams called "Pure Pepper". It is a reissue of "The Cool Sounds Of Pepper Adams", but with an alternate take of one track added to the original four long tracks. The alternate take has never appeared on a CD. With Pepper are Bernard McKinney (euphonium), Hank Jones, George Duvivier and Elvin. It's a very tasty session. Euphonium might bring to mind oompah, but it's like a smooth version of a valve trombone, so nothing to be scared of. That was followed by another Savoy LP: "Blues-Ette, Volume 2“, by Curtis Fuller. It mirrors the original LP by having an alternate take of all six pieces. Only three of these have appeared on CD. This LP is well hidden on Discogs. There is another Fuller LP consisting entirely of alternate takes, none of which has appeared on a CD. I plan to get that soon. Curtis was an excellent player, and the lineups on those sessions are first-rate. A Mosaic set of 1950s Savoy sessions would be great, and Michael Cuscuna agreed when I mentioned it to him several years ago. I don't think it will ever happen, though. Finally, on vinyl, the James Johnson solos in a Mosaic set with several other people. The origin of Fats Waller. Quote
HutchFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 Two favorites from the 1980s: and plus more Ira Sullivan: Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, HutchFan said: More Prez: Lester Young - Lester Swings (Verve, 2 LPs) recordings from 1945, 1950-51 It´s astonishing how Lester on this painting looks very similar to the painting of Dexter on "Homecoming". I mean, when Homecoming came out and I purchased it, I was surprised that the painting of Dexter on the cover is so similar to Lester´s . Quote
Rabshakeh Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Joseph Jarman and Don Moye - Black Paladins Now on: Illinois Jacquet - Bottoms Up Fun morning. 9 hours ago, HutchFan said: I prevailed on a casual jazz fan friend of mine to buy this record recently, when we saw it in Ray's Jazz for £3. He really loved it, which is nice: great playing, unusual (if all you've heard is hard bop), and an interesting back story to all the characters involved. Edited March 12, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote
kh1958 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 Jimmy Reed, Now Appearing (Veejay) Complete Commodore, volume 3 (Mosaic). Seemingly endless mediocre Johnny Wiggs session followed by the wonderful Willie the Lion Smith Quote
porcy62 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Japan Edited March 12, 2022 by porcy62 Quote
soulpope Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, porcy62 said: Japan Excellent .... both music and japanese vinyl edition .... Quote
porcy62 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, soulpope said: Excellent .... both music and japanese vinyl edition .... Yeah, I definitely need more Russell. Quote
HutchFan Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Joseph Jarman and Don Moye - Black Paladins Magnificent. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Shrdlu said: Finally, on vinyl, the James Johnson solos in a Mosaic set with several other people. The origin of Fats Waller. On the Edmond Hall etc. Blue Note set - I was playing those sides the other day. Without a doubt James P. was one of the most important and under-rated figures in jazz, bridging ragtime and early jazz. Fats Waller was his prodigy I believe. Edited March 12, 2022 by sidewinder Quote
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gheorghe said: It´s astonishing how Lester on this painting looks very similar to the painting of Dexter on "Homecoming". I mean, when Homecoming came out and I purchased it, I was surprised that the painting of Dexter on the cover is so similar to Lester´s . Weren’t those paintings used for those 2LP sets auctioned off on behalf of Bruce Lundvall’s estate after he passed? I remember seeing the Lester one at least. Edited March 12, 2022 by sidewinder Quote
porcy62 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, sidewinder said: On the Edmond Hall etc. Blue Note set - I was playing those sides the other day. Without a doubt James P. was one of the most important and under-rated figures in jazz, bridging ragtime and early jazz. Fats Waller was his prodigy I believe. Do you mean I have to buy the set? Quote
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, porcy62 said: Do you mean I have to buy the set? Daft question ! Yes, I recommend it. There’s a good mix of fine early jazz on there including the Edmond Hall ‘Celeste Quartet’ and of course this material helped to put Blue Note on the map. I think it was an early Mosaic release, by the Lowrie/Cuscuna team. Good choice there with the Jazzman ‘Shades of Blue’ Quote
BillF Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kh1958 said: Jimmy Reed, Now Appearing (Veejay) 2 hours ago, porcy62 said: Edited March 12, 2022 by BillF Quote
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